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Post by angela on Apr 24, 2006 16:01:56 GMT -5
Hey guys,
I'm looking at buying a used scooter that's labeled as a Strada RX-150, but I'm trying to figure out whether it was really manufactured by Qianjiang or not.
According to the Certificate of Origin, the make and model is "JMStar RX-150", and the serial number pulls up as a registered importer/manufacturer in the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration database (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/manufacture/).
Is there a way to find out if this is a subsidiary of Qianjiang? I don't want to buy it if it's not really a legit Strada.
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Post by Admin on Apr 24, 2006 16:31:10 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm looking at buying a used scooter that's labeled as a Strada RX-150, but I'm trying to figure out whether it was really manufactured by Qianjiang or not. According to the Certificate of Origin, the make and model is "JMStar RX-150", and the serial number pulls up as a registered importer/manufacturer in the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration database (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/manufacture/). Is there a way to find out if this is a subsidiary of Qianjiang? I don't want to buy it if it's not really a legit Strada. Hi Angela. Excellent question. To my knowledge, JMStar has no affiliation with QJ. www.powersportsfactory.com uses the Strada label for the scooters they import. They claim that some of their scoots are QJ and some are "Yamati". The Yamati is the lower tier of the Strada line and it could be that they are JMStar. Some importers have "borrowed" the Strada name too, so that is what it could be. I would suggest contacting the folks at Power Sports Factory and asking them directly if this is one of their scooters. If you can't get anywhere on the phone, ask for Alan Leson and tell him ScootDawg sent you. Try a lower tier contact first. Alan is the President and a pretty busy guy. |
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Post by michael on Apr 24, 2006 22:14:43 GMT -5
JM Star is not A PSF scooter
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Post by angela on Apr 25, 2006 7:46:58 GMT -5
Thanks Guys. I've actually already spoken to Mr. Leson -- who was very helpful, and who confirmed that Powersports did not import this particular bike -- but I just got curious about how the whole distribution/import network functioned. According to the NHTSA database, bikes imported by Powersports and bikes imported by JMStar are listed as coming from addresses 185 miles apart in China, so I started to wonder how the whole manufacturing process worked. Are bikes built start to finish in one location, for example, or is work contracted out to different location, or does one manufacturer have multiple factory locations? Anyway, it made me want to hop a plane to China and go check out the place myself  Anyone have any thoughts on JM Star products in general? |
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Post by Admin on Apr 25, 2006 16:37:51 GMT -5
JMStar is not among the cream of the crop, in my opinion. Whoever imported that scooter had no qualms about stealing the Strada name. I would look for a different scooter with better reputation.
Many of the scooters in China are built in factories which are close to each other. The Chinese government likes to consolidate industries into regions. If you read the interview I did with the President of Diamo over on the main Scootdawg website, it will give you a little glimpse into the Chinese scooter industry. Also, the article there by Joel Martin, "China and the American Scooterists".
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Post by john d on Apr 27, 2006 8:05:34 GMT -5
JM Star made bikes for Boss and currently provides bikes for Baron also in conjunction with Jonway. The 150TE and CE are Yamati bikes the RXi and 200hp are the QJ made ones. They Yamatis have been very good
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Post by Admin on Apr 27, 2006 15:19:30 GMT -5
JM Star made bikes for Boss and currently provides bikes for Baron also in conjunction with Jonway. The 150TE and CE are Yamati bikes the RXi and 200hp are the QJ made ones. They Yamatis have been very good Hi John D. Good to see you post here. Didn't Boss go under recently? I wonder if maybe JMStar also supplies Primo. They have a model they call Strada. |
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Post by Rick B on Apr 28, 2006 15:56:15 GMT -5
Rick B- I own a JM Star Strada RX150 and I think it is just fine. How can anyone tell a difference in quality between one name or the other on the side of the bike? Who cares which factory in China which part came from? Anyway I have over $900.00 worth of MRP parts installed and whats left of whoever made my scooter makes no difference whatsoever such as the plastic or the frame, or the seat- who cares? My message to the young lady is buy the thing and get it over with, its a great bike. I have studied it part for part and it is just fine. They come so darn detuned from the factory that you couldn't break it if you tried! Get some performance parts and it will knock your socks off. I am coming from owning a ninja ZX6R and I am very impressed with these 150cc scooters.
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Post by Admin on Apr 28, 2006 16:09:45 GMT -5
Calm down there Rick. Nobody is dawging your scooter. Around this board, it's all about the ride. ;D
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Post by ken on May 1, 2006 16:42:30 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on May 1, 2006 16:56:52 GMT -5
Sounds like JMStar accidentally put a wrong label somewhere. JMStar is manufacturer. If I'm not mistaken Roketa and Motofino are two separate importers. Could be wrong. I can't keep all these companies straight.
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Post by Rick B on May 2, 2006 7:54:55 GMT -5
Most Vento parts fit JMStar, except speedometer. Vento speedo comes apart from the top face and JM Star comes apart from the bottom, which means JM Star's speedo can' be taken apart (only different internal characterisitics). JM Star's rims say Vento on them, all engine parts cross with Vento parts which makes things nice and easy, I just go to Vento.com for stock parts. I notice in some of the instructionals on this site show that some of the gy6 engines can look very different from the norm. I consider the Vento and JM Star engine to be the normal or most popular. In my opinion JM Star is well worth the $800.00 price difference from Vento. Bought my Primo JM Star Strada RX150 from Motorsports Of America, who was very good with the sale and a super fast delivery, but couldn't seem to speak english when I needed a replacement warranty muffler when the rivets rattled (I found out this is a problem with all riveted canisters). Ended up buying an MRP exhaust system anyway. Parts are so cheap that I won't ever ask them for anything again. That was the only problem ever encountered with my daily driver with well over 4,000 miles on it. Didn't mean to sound crazy in last thread, I just have many hours of studying my bike part for part. I can remove my engine in less than 20 minutes, I do this just for fun and to constantly make performance part improvements. I think I can do it blindfolded now. When people ask me what kind of scooter I have I just tell them it's Chinese because if I tell them it's a JM Star they wouldn't understand anyway.
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Post by Admin on May 2, 2006 15:44:54 GMT -5
That is a nice thing about a lot of these scooters is that so many parts are interchangable. Every once and a while though, they'll throw you. The spring assembly on cam chain tensioner on my Matrix is different than I've seen on other engines.
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