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Post by glennjl on Feb 24, 2010 19:08:03 GMT -5
Hey guys, just got my JCL MP 250A from Killer Motorsports yesterday, Nice looking scooter. I have a question though. Coming out of the airbox is a clear rubber tube. The tube has a plug in the end of it. Does this plug belong there or should it be removed?
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Post by yoster on Feb 24, 2010 20:15:40 GMT -5
It belongs there.
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Post by widehide on Feb 24, 2010 20:35:14 GMT -5
glennjl, the plug is there so you can drain any blowback oil from the air box, that is what it is intended for.
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Post by mg on Feb 25, 2010 21:15:22 GMT -5
When the tube turns brown, its time to clean your air filter.
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Post by glennjl on Feb 25, 2010 23:10:31 GMT -5
What do you guys think of the JCJ MP 250A? Honestly
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Post by texastoast on Feb 25, 2010 23:21:14 GMT -5
I have a 250 A that I also bought from Killer. Its my first scooter so I dont have any thing to compair it to. So far so good. I have about 800 miles on it and it seems to be running better and better. Just got a new set of tires in today and will put them on next week. Read the boards here my friend and you will learn as I have. I have became a Veteran in as little as 4 months. Enjoy,
TT
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Post by dabucs on Feb 26, 2010 8:26:48 GMT -5
What do you guys think of the JCJ MP 250A? Honestly I also enjoy mine. I have had it since the end of Oct 09 and now have 1900 miles on it. It has not given me any problems, other than the 15amp fuse blowing a couple times, due to using the remote hehe |
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Post by glennjl on Feb 27, 2010 14:30:52 GMT -5
I received my MCO in the mail from Killer Motorsports yesterday, only a few days after receiving the scooter. Rode the scooter about 20 miles so far, doesn't seem to have alot of get up and go but once it gets up to speed it seems to cruise well, also quietly.
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Post by JR on Feb 27, 2010 14:49:41 GMT -5
After a couple of tanks of gas it will start picking up and will get better as it breaks in and will keep getting better up to about 1000 miles. It will only get better. JRR
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Post by nemesys on Feb 27, 2010 20:10:17 GMT -5
What do you guys think of the JCJ MP 250A? Honestly I got one last year, mid June. I have a little over 6000 miles on it. For the money you pay, it's OK. I guess if you're only driving in town, just a few miles here and there, it's OK. Otherwise, you will soon realize that there are many parts that are weak or ill-designed. The design is really not good. Many parts are just calling to fail. So far, my instrument cluster has one burnt bulb, I had to replace the light switch assembly on the left, the seat clamp assembly on the back of the seat, one of the bolt holding the seat, burnt bulb in the tail light (for the tag), had a problem with the starter which I never resolved since it's working now and if I ride at about 60 miles an hour for 20 minutes or more, the speedometer will slowly start going up all the way to the max. I also replaced the battery because after taking it to a motorcycle shop, they tested it and said that although the voltage was correct, their electronic system declared the battery has having no life in it and recommended it be replaced. Otherwise, it's been working fine. I was shocked when I had to replace the light switch on the left of the handle. I opened the assembly and was really surprised to see the tiny and flimsy pieces of plastic that allow you to switch from the high to the low beam. The piece of plastic making contact was all burned up as if too much current had been going through. I called JCL and asked if this had been redesigned as I thought it was not properly designed but they said no, same part. So, what do you want? Not much choice, so I ordered a new one. Now, I try not to switch from the high or low beam and keep it mostly on high beam all the time. So, all in all it's OK. I didn't want to pay too much for my first scooter so it's OK but, overall, I'm disappointed with the poorly designed parts. It looks good with all its shiny plastic but as soon as you start scratching below the surface, you discover all kind of stupid decisions. Things that could be made easy like adjusting the valves on the engine require an incredibly insane amount of time just removing the plastics to get to the engine. I will *NOT* get another JCL scooter, that's for sure. |
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Post by JR on Feb 28, 2010 8:57:24 GMT -5
Hmmmm have you looked at the switches on say a new John Deere riding lawn mower, or a Sears one? What about that vehicle you drive? Bulbs are just like a battery or a tire a every now and then a replacable item. Batteries on most small items are poor again look at you riding lawn mower, lot's of people have to replace them every spring and even the so-called good ones at Wal-Mart only have a 6 month warranty because they know that's about their best life, one mowing season.
Speedometers, even the name brand folks will tell you they all act stupid. Adjusting the valves, ways around all the plastic removal myself and other dawgs have reported valve adjustment in 30 minutes or less, not something one has to do every oil change either.
I have two of these scooters, ride the crap out of both of them, have went all the way to Dallas over 400 miles one way in one day and rode it at 55 to 70 MPH through all kinds of terrain, including the mountains loaded down with items and clothes and my lard butt of 265 lbs. Wouldn't be afraid to get on it and head to California on it! Would I make it? Don't know but the same can be said for anything one drives or rides?
Main thing with all scooter is do a correct PDI, you bought cheap so that all falls on you, pay for name brand, B&M scooter pay more for things like PDI and service, all depends on how much you want to spend or do yourself.
Would I buy another one? Dang right! I have two of them with less than $4000 invested and lot's of fun miles on them! JRR
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Post by nemesys on Feb 28, 2010 14:18:07 GMT -5
Hmmmm have you looked at the switches on say a new John Deere riding lawn mower, or a Sears one? What about that vehicle you drive? Bulbs are just like a battery or a tire a every now and then a replacable item. Batteries on most small items are poor again look at you riding lawn mower, lot's of people have to replace them every spring and even the so-called good ones at Wal-Mart only have a 6 month warranty because they know that's about their best life, one mowing season. Speedometers, even the name brand folks will tell you they all act stupid. Adjusting the valves, ways around all the plastic removal myself and other dawgs have reported valve adjustment in 30 minutes or less, not something one has to do every oil change either. I have two of these scooters, ride the crap out of both of them, have went all the way to Dallas over 400 miles one way in one day and rode it at 55 to 70 MPH through all kinds of terrain, including the mountains loaded down with items and clothes and my lard butt of 265 lbs. Wouldn't be afraid to get on it and head to California on it! Would I make it? Don't know but the same can be said for anything one drives or rides? Main thing with all scooter is do a correct PDI, you bought cheap so that all falls on you, pay for name brand, B&M scooter pay more for things like PDI and service, all depends on how much you want to spend or do yourself. Would I buy another one? Dang right! I have two of them with less than $4000 invested and lot's of fun miles on them! JRR ahh JRR! Of course, to each his own, I guess, but I'm sure if I had the experience you have, maybe I'd be happier. I just was not expecting to work on that thing so much and replace parts after just a few months. Maybe one day, I'll just laugh at it as if it is nothing! |
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Post by JR on Feb 28, 2010 18:52:24 GMT -5
Well mine still has all original switches, changed the bulbs a long time ago to brighter LED's and have a great battery as I bought a good brand with 210CCA and 14AH and other than the ordinary maintenance things plus a few mods to make things better I've like I said rode the crap out of it!
Ya know the work on thing can happen just on about anything as what one guy can ride forever another guy will break down going across the street, just the way it is sometimes. JRR
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Post by glennjl on Mar 1, 2010 11:37:58 GMT -5
Something I've noticed is when the speedometer hits about 50, vibration starts. Don't know if it's the tires or what.
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Post by Smitty on Mar 1, 2010 16:50:09 GMT -5
I have noticed a harmonic vibration on my other Roketa also but it comes in at 45 and has done that for a good while. I have heard the belt has something to do with it but to date there is no negative affect. So i guess I'll just run it till it gets out there to where I can see it, then I'll fix it.
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Post by glennjl on Mar 26, 2010 15:41:21 GMT -5
Mine vibrates at about 50 too
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Post by budmanr on Mar 27, 2010 9:30:53 GMT -5
Had mine for a month now 500 miles a couple of small troubles like a blown fuse anti lock on brake leaking I took off and changing coolant took long time to burp. Seems to be riding better every day I'm over 300 lbs and no trouble hitting 70 mph on flat roads. Have started upgrading replaced bulbs to LED's , added shark 250 watt stereo and biggest difference is the larger windshield from givi no wind in face anymore . next up xenon headlights for night riding. All in all nice ride but do a lot of reading here it will save you a lot of headaches.
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Post by monkeywrench on Apr 2, 2010 8:56:39 GMT -5
The vibration may be coming from the tires. Make sure they're balanced or put in some DynaBeads. But even at that, the Kenda tires that came on mine as stock aren't the smoothest. I had to replace the back tire when the infamous tire valve problem made me ride it on the rim, and the rear is much improved. The front still feels like it's slightly out, even though it's been checked more than once and I've even put in, well, poor man's DynaBeads: airsoft pellets. When I've got a few extra bucks, I may go ahead and replace that tire with a better one.
Tire anecdote: I live in the shadow of Micheling NA HQ, and have several Michelin employees among my friends, one of them a tread engineer. He looked at those Kenda tires, shook his head and said "Man, I wouldn't put that on my wheelbarrow!"
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Post by 4950cycle on Sept 16, 2012 23:17:19 GMT -5
Well, I'm not one of the lucky ones then. The ignition on my 2007 JCL MP 250 A (baught at Killermotorsports) started shorting out and the whole scoot shuts down as soon as I started riding it. It still does this now and then. Quite disheartening when on the highway. Then 4 months and 800 miles later the starter just spins instead of turning the engine over. Something tells me after studying the design that it is what they call the starter clutch is not funtioning all of a sudden. Now , since no kick starter, No starting. And as has been said I will have to take apart the whole world to get at the side of the motor I need. I will have to remove, not to mention the typical stalling (when I used to be able to start it). Everytime I come to a stop it stalls now. So again I will have to get at the valves. That will be another 4 million dollars worth of man hours I will have to pour into this so called start and go vehicle.lol Man, this thing is way to much work to ride. If it was reliable though I do love to ride it. It flys along with traffic on these two lane highways with no problem. And the accelleration is very acceptable. To bad I got a lemon.
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Post by fracon on Sept 17, 2012 7:43:03 GMT -5
speedo jumps to 70 while doing 50 cable, speedhead , sender  , |
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Post by fracon on Sept 17, 2012 7:44:58 GMT -5
how much gear oil in rear ? can,t find manual says fill up?? |
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Post by fracon on Sept 17, 2012 21:31:35 GMT -5
radio lasted 1 wk,rear tire 3,600 miles,trunk latch broken out of box,windshield stress cracks have 5,500 on it not honda gold wing but ok $ right got online from killer
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Post by 4950cycle on Sept 23, 2012 9:44:30 GMT -5
Well took it all apart, The starter clutch is one pile of labor to get to. Odered one from Fleabay for $60. Not here yet. While I have the JCL all apart I'll have to adjust the valves wich will hopefully stop all this stalling it was doing. Then from there I will have to find out why the ignition cuts out and everything quits without warning. Oh Yea, these scoots are loads of fun !   BTW, All the PDI ing in the world wouldn't have changed my plight here. Upon dilivery this JCL looked good , It did everything it was supposed to do upon dilivery. Even ran fairly well. But soon after, Look out ! Someone else on another scoot forum said,"Why didn't you PDI it" Gemme a break. Sing another overly simplified song. Yea, PDIing solves everything. Why didn't I think of that, Dhaaa... |
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Post by trigger on Sept 23, 2012 21:47:08 GMT -5
Hope you get the problems worked out. It took me a while and you have to keep an eye out for problems, but these bikes are simple, and parts are inexpensive almost comically so. Price some Suzuki parts, I also have a Borgman, so I know.
I have 24'000 on my JCL MP 250' so it is possible.
Check your fuse, replace with a quality automotive type. there is a wire harness under the right rear plastic, I had a problem with that once, bad connections. I replaced the harnes with splice connections.
I agree the top box is junk, replace it with a Bestem or like.
Good luck.
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Post by 4950cycle on Oct 13, 2012 23:35:48 GMT -5
New starter clutch made JCL scoot start right up. Valve adjustment at .008 (both) made scooter quit stalling and run good at all temps. Now to tackle that totally unreliable ignition switch. Any idea wich is the best way to get at ignition switch to replace ?
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Post by EPAhater on Oct 14, 2012 20:49:37 GMT -5
Well took it all apart, The starter clutch is one pile of labor to get to. Odered one from Fleabay for $60. Not here yet. While I have the JCL all apart I'll have to adjust the valves wich will hopefully stop all this stalling it was doing. Then from there I will have to find out why the ignition cuts out and everything quits without warning. Oh Yea, these scoots are loads of fun ! BTW, All the PDI ing in the world wouldn't have changed my plight here. Upon dilivery this JCL looked good , It did everything it was supposed to do upon dilivery. Even ran fairly well. But soon after, Look out ! Someone else on another scoot forum said,"Why didn't you PDI it" Gemme a break. Sing another overly simplified song. Yea, PDIing solves everything. Why didn't I think of that, Dhaaa... Why didn't you? Trigger has 24k on his and I have two of them, both together have over 30k never put anything on them but tires and battery as needed. Went through them front to back before I even tried to start them and now just ride. The song is sang because it works.  Had you done a good PDI especially on the electrical you probably wouldn't be having the shutting off problem? Check the pins on the CDI, more than likely this is the problem not the key switch. Remember you bought a 07 scooter in the crate that is now 5 years old and BTW part of the PDI is to change out ALL of the fluids. To not PDI a 5 year old scooter is asking for problems. |
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BTW, All the PDI ing in the world wouldn't have changed my plight here. Upon dilivery this JCL looked good , It did everything it was supposed to do upon dilivery. Even ran fairly well. But soon after, Look out ! Someone else on another scoot forum said,"Why didn't you PDI it" Gemme a break. Sing another overly simplified song. Yea, PDIing solves everything. Why didn't I think of that, Dhaaa...
