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Post by aileronjack on Nov 20, 2009 10:22:21 GMT -5
Hi Guys and Gals. Here's our new Ice Bear Trike. We are doing the initial setup and the post delivery inspection (an all important part of getting a new bike). We have ordered helmets and are waiting for the MFO to arrive for registration and licensing. Of course, we are excited and look forward to your comments, advice, and other suggestions. Gotta give props to Als01sevile for responding to the myriad of questions I have had for him. Thanks Alleyoop. I am sure there's more to come. BTW where is the oil drain plug? and how much should I expect to put back in? lol Here's the awesome machine and us looking cool and liking it! Just the bike looking hot!!! Here's the gorgeous Italian Diva I married 16 years ago! And, of course, the stud of the month (the wife says "yeah right") Thanks for stopping for a peek. Give us a shout! Jack
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Post by als01seville on Nov 20, 2009 16:00:50 GMT -5
Hi Jack, That is a sharp color, nice going. The oil drain plug is to the right of the oil fill spout under and by the edge of the engine case. You can't miss it, is has a 7/16 nut on the hole drain plug is about 1 1/4 inches in diameter. When you unscrew it out there is a Spring and on top of the spring you will find a metal screen that fits in the top part of the spring. It doesn't take a full quart, you will have about 1- 1 1/2 inches left of oil out of a quart. Fill it slowly otherwise it will back out on you and get all over the muffler/pipe and floor:)
I like the threads on your front tire, what make and size is it jack? I don't like the one on mine because it doesn't gripe so good on turns. Mine has no threads in the middle just off to the sides and sometimes if the road curves it tends to slide on me. There are pictures of the Oil Drain Plug and spring and screen on the forum, if I find them I will update your thread so you can see the Drain Plug. Maybe other Dawgs will update it so you can see the setup.
Drive Safe and hope you get your MSO quick so you can get your license plate and title. Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Nov 20, 2009 16:17:13 GMT -5
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 20, 2009 18:38:05 GMT -5
Hey Als01seville: The front tire is a KENDA model # K-418-KC-004.....4-12. Here's a web link to one retailer where u can order one. www.cedarrapidstire.com/home.php?cat=401Thanks for your comments. And, yes, it's a great looking ride. A curious situation has come up. That being, the odometer is advancing but the speedometer is not working. I'll be looking into that this weekend. I spoke to a mechanic at the local motorcycle store when I went to get our helmets. He didn't really have an answer except to put a drill on the cable down at the wheel and see if it may be a problem there. If not, then it's likely at the speedometer head. I kinda knew that though.
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Post by JR on Nov 20, 2009 19:02:09 GMT -5
Man that is one saaaaaaweet looking trike!! I'll have to say ya just can't beat RED!! Hey be sure to do a very good PDI as it really pays off in the long run! Also there are now 3 of you that got posts going on trikes, a lot of info by David, Alley and a new member Wolfhound also! They already can walk ya through some of the bugs in the system and have come up with some great solutions to make them better! Alley has just got the bugs worked out of his variator change and has his perking right along and David is making some improvements on his carb so you've his just at the right time!! JRR
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Post by cruiser66 on Nov 20, 2009 21:16:08 GMT -5
Hey Als01seville: The front tire is a KENDA model # K-418-KC-004.....4-12. Here's a web link to one retailer where u can order one. www.cedarrapidstire.com/home.php?cat=401Thanks for your comments. And, yes, it's a great looking ride. A curious situation has come up. That being, the odometer is advancing but the speedometer is not working. I'll be looking into that this weekend. I spoke to a mechanic at the local motorcycle store when I went to get our helmets. He didn't really have an answer except to put a drill on the cable down at the wheel and see if it may be a problem there. If not, then it's likely at the speedometer head. I kinda knew that though. If the odometer works, then the sending unit and cable have to be OK. This means that the speedo unit is defective. Should be able to get a new one under warranty. 66
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 20, 2009 22:10:49 GMT -5
Thanks cruiser. I am gonna look into the speedo head first thing tomorrow. I have hopes that the delaership will warranty this if it is indeed the speedo. I bought an RC model of an A-10 Warthog a few weeks ago and the company blew me off when one of their retractable landing gear was defective. I had reported the malfunction several times and asked that they help a brother out. I wound up paying an additional $30 for a new set. It has a taste about it...ya know....that experience. We'll see. Thanx
Jack
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Post by summersmoon on Nov 20, 2009 23:15:37 GMT -5
Congrats on your new trike. I love the red. I have the same one in black and I LOVE IT. Where are you from? Hope you have many miles of fun.
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 21, 2009 18:12:36 GMT -5
Hi summersmoon: We are in central louisiana. A place where scooters are kind of rare. I see one or two on occasions but not often.
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Post by JR on Nov 21, 2009 18:18:14 GMT -5
What are ya calling central louisiana neighbor? Have worked a lot in the Shreveport area and was raised right up above Texarkana! BTW looks like them Rebs are fixing to score on LSU and ya know who is coming to town next week don't ya?
We put a whipping on Miss. State today!! JRR
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 21, 2009 18:18:57 GMT -5
Guys, we are experiencing a fluctuation in RPMS while idling. As it sits idiling, it wants to almost ease away from the dead stop. The high rpms drops one second and is back high in the next second with no predictable patttern to speak of. Anyone experienced this type of problem (if it is one) before?
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 21, 2009 18:22:41 GMT -5
Hey JrRyan: Well, if you put your finger right in the middle of the state....Thats where we are. It's a humble life; filled with colorful politics, people, food... and if you're not an LSU fan, you're probably from outta town.
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Post by JR on Nov 21, 2009 19:34:22 GMT -5
Well lets see put my finger in the middle then that would put ya around Alexandria! Been there and yea love that cajun boudin, gar ball and man them crawfish!! Every now and then drop over the border to Springhill and get some from a place that cooks up live right in front of ya! Dripping with that ole cayenne pepper whoooooooo hot! Better have plenty of cold ones ready and a little ice cream doesn't hurt either! WEll I have to tell ya the sad news if ya don't already know LSU just couldn't handle those Rebs today, good defense but offense this year is lacking and offense isn't a problem for these guys ; But we're young as only one starting senior one day we can beat anyone next day nobody but that's what happens to youg teams but oh next year! We'll be down ya'lls way next week and I don't have to remind ya we've won two in a row on ya!! LOL JRR
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Post by turtle8 on Nov 21, 2009 21:35:16 GMT -5
What are ya calling central louisiana neighbor? Have worked a lot in the Shreveport area and was raised right up above Texarkana! BTW looks like them Rebs are fixing to score on LSU and ya know who is coming to town next week don't ya? We put a whipping on Miss. State today!! JRR I'll make this quick; I don't want to hyjack this thread. I could't bear to watch my alma mater so I went and did yard work. I graduated from MSU in 1991. They haven't had a decent football team since Jackie Sherril.
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Post by JR on Nov 21, 2009 21:54:05 GMT -5
Hey man Miss State has nothing to be ashamed of! Young team like Arkansas and the schedule brutal!! #2 Alabama, #7 Georgia Tech, (was) #9 LSU #23 Houston, #1 Florida, Auburn was ranked when they lost to them and Arkansas is peaking at the right time, the Mallet kid is a great quarterback! Hope they whip those Rebs! JRR
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 21, 2009 21:54:50 GMT -5
Jr: Yeah, I saw a few minutes of the last quarter. I guess I "found something else to do" about a minute and some change before quittin time. Saints are playin Tampa tomorrow....
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Post by JR on Nov 21, 2009 22:22:48 GMT -5
Yep making history trying to go to 10-0!! got two main starters out this week! Brees is the man now me I like the Saints and Cowboys as my man Felix Jones plays for Dallas!! JRR
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Post by als01seville on Nov 22, 2009 19:27:20 GMT -5
Hi Aileronjack, Soundls like it may have an air leak somewhere. Get some choke/carbureator cleaner and spray around the carb. If the engine changes rpms up or down you have a leak so then you can tigthen things up. If it about to move the Trike at idle, its really idleing to fast Turn the Idle Screw the one on the right when lookin down it has a spring on it turn it counter clockwise to lower your idle rpms. Alleyoop
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Post by wolfhound on Nov 22, 2009 19:49:45 GMT -5
Welcome aboard, Jack. I am riding a 150-8 Ice Bear Ruckus clone. I love it but right now it is down while we get a new air filter, hopefullly this week. Allyoop and others have had the same problem with the air filter (to call it a filter is being overly polite). The on road/off road tires that came on mine take some miles to self balance but do get better. I have ordered Dyna Beads to use to balance the tires. In 300 miles the only problem I have encountered has been the air filter. Love the stability of the trike. My dealer rides one the same color as yours, really good looking trike. I went with black for my 150-8. By the way Ice Bear has only a 30 day warrenty on parts so get the speedometer back to them or the dealer quickly. It is good to have another triker in the group. These are fine folks who will help you when you have questions. Ride safe!! Wolfhound
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Post by als01seville on Nov 22, 2009 21:43:36 GMT -5
HI wolfhound, didn't know you also have a trike,COOL!! Yes the air filter is really a joke and here is the other thing if you put on say a uni filter or whatever then you have to worry about the Rubber intake creating a crack due to the weight of the carb. So I am going to get a metal or aluminum one and replace the rubber intake, then I can put a descent air filter on. Thats why they have the current air filter hooked up to the piece of metal welded to the frame so it holds the carb stationery and doesn't bounce around. My brother-in laws air filter came completly off the carb and was just being held on by the metal piece.
One more thing to watch out for. Due to the axles moving out by themselves and causing your wheel to be loose and wobble which will ruin the HUB. For the most current trikes they have added another thick washer next to the Bearing inside where the HUB fits into. But by doing this they could not put a COTTER PIN to hold the Axle Nut. So check your wheels and see if the Axle Nut has a cotter pin. If it doesn't you have one of the current models, and you do want to have a cotter pin so the nut doesn't come loose and you loose your wheel HUB and ALL. You may have to grind down the back of the nut or grind down a little off the hub so when you put the nut on you are able to see the hole in the axle and put a cotter pin in. Alleyoop
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 22, 2009 23:23:18 GMT -5
Thanx Alleyoop: Good suggestion about the carb clearner. And, as well, another excellent point you made to wolfhound about the cotter pin!!! That's a huge safety issue!! I will be taking my wheels off to check that first thing tomorrow.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 22, 2009 23:51:30 GMT -5
Hi aileronjack, Just take the plastic center wheel cover off. You have had to snap them on when you put the wheels on but you didn't notice if the Nut had a Cotter Pin or not since you didn't know about the potential problem.
My plastic center wheel covers don't fit on mine they will not stay on, the tabs that hook onto the hub are to small:) My brother-in law only one would stay on but that one came off on one of his rides:) Alleyoop
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Post by wolfhound on Nov 23, 2009 0:25:23 GMT -5
Thanks, Alleyoop.for the carb tip and the heads up on the trike rear wheel cotter pins. I will pass this on th Bryan also as his trike may have a cotter pin problem also. He is doing the carb work (I assist by handing tools as he needs them. No mechanic am I!!) But I observe and learn as we go. I chose the 150-8 because I like its minamalist looks and the convience of not having body panels in my way when getting to the engine. Raise the seat, remove 4 screws holding the motor cover plate and there you are. Hopefully we will get this out of the way this week. I will try to post some pix of the Beast of Burden. I have added a windshield, small saddle bags better mirrors(swapped the Tomos Revival mirrors for the trike mirrors--each set works better on the other bike!!) and a back rest. Wolfhound. Wolfhound.
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Post by WildMan on Nov 23, 2009 0:40:38 GMT -5
Hay Jack Welcome to ScootDawg Scooter Forum, THE BEST FORUM IN TOWN..
I suggest putting clear silicone around the edge of the chrome dust covers, that'll keep them from coming off, but not so permanent that you can't get'm off if needed.. That's what I did first thing, cause I knew they were going to fly off some where..
Also, of you grind the hub so you can install cotter pins, grind the nut side of hub not the bearing side..
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Nov 23, 2009 0:46:30 GMT -5
Dwild62, Hey good idea putting the silicone around the dust covers. I have not put mine on because the tabs do not grip the hub. So do I silicone just the Tabs or all around the cover? Maybe I can make it look just a LITTLE COOLER:) Alleyoop
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Post by WildMan on Nov 23, 2009 1:12:57 GMT -5
Alleyoop I put silicone all the way around the matting edge of the cover.. As far as that goes, there's really no need to have to take them off at all.. I haven't had to take'm off at all, I just take the wheel off if I need to get to the axle nut.. But the silicone is nice so if you do..
David Sr.
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 24, 2009 9:38:03 GMT -5
The dust covers were difficult to get on. I had to take a rubber mallet to 'em to get 'em to snap in place. I had thought, like Dwild had mentioned, that in the future I would just unscrew the bolts holding the wheel in place; and leave the dust covers alone. We're still waiting on the MFO to come in. The wife took off down the driveway with the bike Saturday morning, grinning the whole time. Gotta a feeling I may have to buy a second one...lol
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Post by aileronjack on Nov 24, 2009 17:08:07 GMT -5
Hey wolfhound! Thanks for stopping in. I looked at the 150-8 model as well. I like it. Where did you get your airfilter? and what brought about the need to get another one? Asking, just for information. I may run into a similar situation as yourself one day. You got pics of your bike on here anywhere?
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Post by trike20 on Nov 24, 2009 23:23:15 GMT -5
Hi all... I just got my Ice Bear XXX-8 and I am in the process of doing the PDI. All looks very good and tight. I will post pics and start another thread later. 2 questions.. When you hand rotate the clutch, how much play should be in the final gears? Mine rotates about 1/4 turn free. Is this normal? Is there an adjustment to reduce the free play? I found the oil really full.... about 1/4 inch from running over or a full inch above the high mark on the dipstick. I am going to change it in 2-5 miles but just wondering if too full is bad considering the expected RPM of the motor. This thing really looks cool in white... Cheers,
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Post by als01seville on Nov 25, 2009 0:16:22 GMT -5
Welcome to the Trike Club-Trike20, Yes the clutch does rotate some before the gears ingage. You will also find the differential spider gears also have some play before they actually turn the wheels. They did not spend a lot of money having well machined gears that have little play between the teeth:) You will also see that it will not start to move the weight until around 3000 rpms.
As for the oil thats ok, once you crank it up the oil will get splashed onto all the parts inside and some oil will stick to the parts and that little amount will be enough to lower the oil by the fill plug. The fill plug is very small in diameter so that little bit of oil that will get splashed around and stuck to the parts will be enough to lower the level at the fill plug. The worse thing would be a dab of oil will drip. Alleyoop
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