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Post by loudest143 on Jan 19, 2008 23:06:47 GMT -5
tinyurl.com/yqnq9uOh, the possibilities.... I need to work some more overtime! loudest143 *loves me some gadgets
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 20, 2008 11:27:22 GMT -5
Ummmm.... I don't mean to be a jerk, but I hope you aren't serious. Those things won't work. It will not create boost, or at least I don't believe it will. You need to create boost, not just create a cool breeze, to make power. You need a compressor, not just a fan. Blowing air around won't introduce more oxygen. Please save your money on this PC fan in a fancy case.
If you want more power, look into big bores, porting, etc... A real compressor will not be a simple bolt on to a 50-150cc scooter. A turbo will require custom exhaust tubing, an oil supply, brackets, and more. A supercharger will need a belt/chain or other drive system and most likely custom piping and brackets depending if it is roots, twin screw, or centrifugal. If you can resolve mounting and fabrication issues, you still aren't finished. Then you'd need a turbo or supercharger suited for your application, and good luck with that on a 50-150cc.
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Post by memturbo on Jan 20, 2008 11:29:56 GMT -5
looks like another ripoff type turbo that does nothing but lean out your engine.
and adds .00000000001 hp but you loose that hp because of the drain it puts on your charging
circuit .
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Post by earlwb on Jan 20, 2008 12:38:46 GMT -5
My first thought is that it doesn't work as well. But I think I would have to reserve judgement, as a good electric fan motor can really blow some serious air, so it might actually have some PSI boost. But of course someone has to be a guinea pig and be the first to try it and see what happens. Since a boost of some sort would mean more air going in, the engine would be leaner of course, so you would likely have to run a larger main jet.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 20, 2008 13:51:26 GMT -5
Well, maybe my reply is harsh and I shouldn't pass judgement on it. It may work to some degree. I don't think it will, but let's suppose it makes 1psi of boost. Now let's just say it's on a 150cc scooter that makes 10 horsepower. At 100% efficiency (not likely) said engine would gain 0.68 horsepower.
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Post by memturbo on Jan 20, 2008 13:58:20 GMT -5
less than 1 hp for over $70.00
just do the other mods and get that for less money
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Post by rerun2 on Jan 20, 2008 17:31:17 GMT -5
We used all manner of things to force more air to the carbs when I was a youngster and 'muscle cars' dominated the streets. We called these things RAM AIR systems, they did add some to the performance. Auto makers marketed them on certain HOT CARS of the day too, eventually, all that was left was a comestic hump on the hood to make the car 'look fast'... Bottom line; forced air can help a wee bit, but is rams trash into the engine along with the air, regualr filters can't hold back the pressurized particles, and if they could, they would defeat the whole thing. GIMMICK that will cost a LOT more than the purchase price!!
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Post by loudest143 on Jan 20, 2008 18:10:31 GMT -5
the ad makes no claims other than it will help your performance. It does say, "The rotating blades of the fan aerates the air thus increasing the oxygen content of the air intake." I was thinking that this might cause a CLEANER air mixture, not a HIGHER air mixture. I figure it's cheaper than strapping one of these to my azz to help with OXYGEN flow. tinyurl.com/27jaloloudest143 *fear change
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Post by 90GTVert on Jan 20, 2008 19:56:26 GMT -5
It does say, "The rotating blades of the fan aerates the air thus increasing the oxygen content of the air intake." How exactly do you aerate air? aerate means to mix with or introduce to air. Air and air have already mingled and been formally introduced. It may, and in this case I bet it doesn't to any substantial degree, compress more air into a given space. That would introduce more oxygen to that space. If you want cleaner air, find a better air filter. As for the ram air effect reference, it's a proven fact that ram air does little or nothing until very high speeds are reached. Most 150cc scooters are never going to achieve a real gain from ram air, because they can't go fast enough to get air moving at a great enough velocity. At 100mph the ram air effect can gain about 1.2% more power... so if you ever got to 100mph on your 10 horsepower scooter, you would then have 10.12 horsepower. Once again, I'm sorry if I come off as a jerk, but please don't make these rip-off artists rich. I've never bought an electric turbo, but in my younger days I have done some stupid things to small engines looking for easy power. I think this electric turbo will have only one effect, you will have less money than before you purchased it.
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Post by earlwb on Jan 20, 2008 22:05:16 GMT -5
Oh that is good. How do you aerate the air? I love it. Looks like the translator isn't very good once again.
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Post by Glennby on Jan 21, 2008 9:27:50 GMT -5
It's snake oil for sure.you can't get any boost from this!it's a 12 volt motor with an inpeller fan.
Glennby
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Post by tomtom on Jan 21, 2008 20:28:05 GMT -5
Well, it's got enough names, that's for sure! Hurricane Turbo Fan Monkey Bike Dax Thumpstar Crf Xr To me, anything that says "turbo" means that it is running off the exhaust, not an electric motor.
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Post by earlwb on Jan 21, 2008 22:31:20 GMT -5
One thought, is that if the fan has any power to it, that fan will likely draw 20 amperes of current of more. If it isn't drawing lots of current then it isn't really blowing good.
In radio control model airplanes, the larger electric ducted fan motors can really blow some air, they put gasoline air blowers to shame. But they suck amps like a black hole though.
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