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Post by bodasefus on Dec 28, 2007 14:38:20 GMT -5
I have been thinking about a trailer for the scooter... I have seen old ads on some single wheeled trailers for scooters but cannot find any current information on them... I thought they would be great for camping and such... even a trip to the store... has anyone seen anything like this or even plans to make one... thanks -- here is a link to the old ad I saw... s162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/bodasefus/?action=view¤t=Scooter_Trailers-56.jpg
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Post by kurt on Dec 28, 2007 15:16:18 GMT -5
Look for motorcycle trailers like this one: www.adventuresportsproducts.com/cycles-pull.htmSome people make the mistake of thinking they can hook a bicycle trailer to the back of their scooter. Unfortunately that isn't a good idea. Aside from not being legal, scooters go faster, for longer periods of time, than bicycles. This can cause the bicycle trailer to quickly break down. Scooter trailers are out there, you just have to devote some time to finding them. P.S. finding a hitch that will work for your scooter is another challenge!
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Post by T W I S T E R on Dec 28, 2007 15:20:43 GMT -5
the one wheel trailer in your picture is as old as dirt. don't make em any more and for good reason. they are a road hazzard. they jerk your scoot all over the road. go for a light weight 2 wheeler only. get a hitch design that works before you go for the trailer. a 250cc isn't big enough to pull a trailer.
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Post by earlwb on Dec 28, 2007 16:31:34 GMT -5
Well the big problem is if you can figure out how to mount a trailer hitch on your scooter somehow. That is the big caveat, as you need a decent trailer hitch setup to make it work. Then you can use any number of small motorcycle trailers on your scooter. Engine displacement size isn't a big issue as people have used 50cc scooters to pull small trailers, but a scooter of at least 150cc or better would work a lot nicer though. Here at the DFWScooterist Website in the Photo Gallery on Page Six, you can check out Christy's Scooter Jobs and see what they were doing for scooter and trailer pulling. www.dfwscooterist.com/menu/index.htmlStudy their trailer hitches to see what you might need to fabricate for your scooter. Here at this website they have some good ideas for a light weight motorcycle trailer too: www.motorcycletrailer.comAlso Harbor Freight Tools have a small 40" by 49" utility trailer that looks quite promising for use as a motorcycle trailer too.
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Post by Bear on Dec 29, 2007 12:29:59 GMT -5
I'll try and figure where I saw this and report back, in the mean while, maybe someone else will recognize what I'm talking about.
There was this post (might not have been this forum) where a contractor was looking for a trailer to help haul a ladder (I think he was a home inspector). Anyway someone pointed him to this motorcycle trailer that attached up at an angle and to the back rack.
It looked kind of like a make shift stretcher that you'd see in a western hauling the injured cowboy behind a horse. I suppose that description doesn't sound very promising :-), but I was intrigued by the photos. And I think it worked for him.
Sorry I can't recall more detail than that, but I'll ponder some more on it.
Bear
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Post by kitcarguy on Dec 29, 2007 15:42:22 GMT -5
you could make one easy enough. As said before Harbor Freight does have some small trailers. This one is 130 lbs, but there is no reason you could not chop it up a bit and make it lighter. www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42708The Larger HF trailers are used alot to build teardrop campers and are often cut to size, or cut and made larger.
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Post by earlwb on Dec 29, 2007 16:56:17 GMT -5
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Post by kitcarguy on Dec 29, 2007 19:15:30 GMT -5
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Post by Andi on Dec 29, 2007 19:45:23 GMT -5
Now that was funny and cool at the same time, great find. When I was between 6 and 12 years old the 5 of us - my parents, brother and sister, used to drive from Cologne Germany to Saint Tropez in southern France with an Opel Rekord w/4 cylinder, 1.7 liter and 60 hp. A 20 some foot caravan in tow and a little 10ft fiberglass dingy on top of the car. The drive used to take at least 12 hours and covered a distance of about 710 miles, I wonder how the scoot caravan set up would have faired. That just brought back some of my fondest childhood memories, have a karma on me Earl. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Andi
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Post by earlwb on Dec 29, 2007 20:54:43 GMT -5
Thanks, I too have find memories of going camping with my mother and sister. My mother owned a Vauxhall sedan at the time. But we didn't go more than about 100 miles from home on some of the camping trips. Mostly 40 to 50 miles away. But it was great nonetheless.
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Post by tortoise on Dec 30, 2007 19:06:33 GMT -5
Another approach might be to enclose a tri-wheel motorcycle in a configuration with a small trailer exterior appearance . . related video.
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Post by kitcarguy on Dec 30, 2007 19:25:01 GMT -5
Man I love the tab, What a great camper
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Post by Andi on Jan 1, 2008 20:19:32 GMT -5
Thanks, I too have find memories of going camping with my mother and sister. My mother owned a Vauxhall sedan at the time. But we didn't go more than about 100 miles from home on some of the camping trips. Mostly 40 to 50 miles away. But it was great nonetheless. Even though Opel and Vauxhall has been part of GM for a very long time already, I didn't know Vauxhall was sold in the US. I thought they were only sold in Europe and British Common Wealth Countries. Andi
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Post by Andi on Jan 1, 2008 20:39:19 GMT -5
Another approach might be to enclose a tri-wheel motorcycle in a configuration with a small trailer exterior appearance . . related video. Nice little trailer, maybe a little much for the Three Wheeled Scoot though. Small engine on those, 40 mph on its own would be all its got. The original design is from Vespa. That motorized caravan was something else ..... what people will do when they are bored. Andi
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Post by tomtom on Jan 1, 2008 20:43:54 GMT -5
Earl- You're right about the trailer hitch being critical. Here are some plans by Sean Colgan for a hitch he uses on his Honda Reflex. Claims it does a good job with one or two wheel trailers. Uses parts you can buy locally. Thought about it for my Roketa MC-54. www.scooterridermag.com/colgan_hitch.pdf
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Post by tortoise on Jan 1, 2008 21:16:31 GMT -5
No affiliation . . related Las Vegas craigslist ad: "$2500 FIRM
This is a 2004 E-ton Beamer completely decked out. Custom paint, trailer, barbeque and sound system. THE ULTIMATE TAILGATER. Trailer has a custom sound box that includes a Jensen 340watt single channel momo amp just for pushing the 12" kicker comp 12 sub. Two 6x9s. A cd/am/fm deck. An anntenna. Brake lights and turn signals w/L.e.d.'s that strobe as running lights. Comes complete with own full size car battery to power it all up. Trailer also has a smoker style two chamber barbeque grill (never used)which is easily removable if needed. Complete custom wiring harness. Moped has two dome tweeters on steering column and a custom swivel hitch to attach trailer. (2" ball and coupler)"
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Post by earlwb on Jan 1, 2008 21:28:38 GMT -5
My mother owned the Vauxhall many years ago, before GMC bought out the company. I think she bought it from a Air Force guy who had brought it back from the UK at the time, but was getting shipped out to Japan or some other place like that. For a while you could go to certain repair shops and they would work on the Vauxhall. Then later Vauxhall sort of stopped importing or went out of business or something, I don't know. I never looked to see why as i was a kid then. She traded it in on a Toyota Corona sedan which looked almost identical to the Vauxhall at the time.
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Post by earlwb on Jan 1, 2008 21:34:29 GMT -5
tomtom, interesting setup. The problem with the scooters is the engine and rear wheel assembly pivot on the one large pivot bolt and the wheel goes up and down accordingly as you traverse bumps and stuff. So you either have to have a trailer hitch on the rear wheel assembly somehow or mounted up high on the luggage rack or something. Our scooters have a lot of plastic body panels, so you cannot mount to those things. The hinge joint setup is a nice idea actually. He allows the vertical frame to pivot in and out slightly as the rear suspension works. Not bad at all.
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Post by tomtom on Jan 1, 2008 21:54:34 GMT -5
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Post by countryscoots on Jan 2, 2008 17:23:58 GMT -5
My son makes these. They started with the vette and then had requests for the Mustang and Hummer. They are really cool but way to expensive. www.americancustomtrailers.com
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 17:46:36 GMT -5
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Post by Andi on Jan 4, 2008 19:10:12 GMT -5
Well I guess the search is over that is exactly the request that started this thread, great find. Looks like the rear end of a scoot and a scooter wheel. I wonder what keeps it balanced when stopped though. Andi
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Post by WarrenS on Jan 4, 2008 20:30:41 GMT -5
The hitch only allows movement in 4 directions, up, down, left, right. It is not a ball mount.
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Post by earlwb on Jan 4, 2008 22:18:20 GMT -5
That type of trailer is designed to lean into the turns just like your scooter does. So it probably does not pivot left and right but only up and down. it is pretty cool though, I remember seeing motorcycles now and then with that type of a trailer on them before. With the trailer loaded you probably do not want to use your side stand.
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Post by tyrssen on Jan 7, 2008 19:18:50 GMT -5
Just to throw my 2 cents worth in: I got one of the Harbor Freight trailers. You get to assemble it and add your own plywood (and 2x4 stakes,) but it only cost me $200.00. I don't use it all that much, and have had lots of offers for it; but I won't sell. When I need it, nothing else will quite do. Just used it tonite, to bring my scooter home from me mum's house. If cost is an issue, these trailers are a good way to go.
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Post by YellowScooter on Jan 7, 2008 20:09:31 GMT -5
Just get you one of these. The scooter/pickup truck. what happens when you mate a radio flyer and a Honda Express. Although I must say, I Love This trailer! Only I'd use it for something a little more productive like hauling around my mower, gas, & weedwacker in the summertime for some spending money without it all having to goto a truck's gas tank.
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Post by kurt on Jan 11, 2008 10:24:55 GMT -5
Trailers with only one wheel need a hitch with two degrees of freedom - up/down (to deal with dips in the road) and left/right (to handle turning). They can't tilt independently of the scooter/motorcycle.
Trailers with two wheels need a hitch with three degrees of freedom (like a ball hitch) - up/down, left/right, and longitudinal rotation (to stay upright when the scooter/motorcycle tilts).
The Uni-Go trailer hitches have only two degrees of freedom. They're basically two hinges mounted at right angles to one another. (This is from taking a close look at the pictures on their website.) They do have an adapter, however, to change it to a ball hitch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2008 18:26:15 GMT -5
Well I guess the search is over that is exactly the request that started this thread, great find. Looks like the rear end of a scoot and a scooter wheel. I wonder what keeps it balanced when stopped though. Andi Have a look at some photos of the Uni-Go in action: burgmanusa.com/gallery/preacher/unigo/
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