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Post by Greg on Dec 20, 2007 23:38:44 GMT -5
ok everyone as the wife and i were sitting on the bed wraping christmas gifts tonight i was checking the back of the packages befor we wraped them and almost 99% of everything we bought said MADE IN CHINA can somone explane to me when this happined do we make anything in the usa anymore?
makes me feel like china is taking over ,im almost 40 and i sware i dont remember all this junk when i was younger
just had to vent everyone and i think the wife is tired of hearing it anyway i hope everyone has a merry christmas and God bless
Greg
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Post by einism on Dec 21, 2007 1:46:42 GMT -5
because it used to say made in Japan
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Post by bunnii on Dec 21, 2007 2:55:37 GMT -5
It's cheaper to outsource
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Post by randy on Dec 21, 2007 6:57:34 GMT -5
We did toys for the underprivileged kids were I work. Approximately 100 toys we wrapped and you are right about 80 of them were made in China. We would NOT purchase a toy unless it had the " C E" marking on the toy. Supposedly that means that the toy has been checked for lead and other hazardous materials.
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Post by jdikov on Dec 28, 2007 18:49:33 GMT -5
Amen to that! When I was a kid it all said made in Japan. Everybody was saying how the Japanese stuff was garbage and we wshuld not buy it. Well look at them today. China is poised to do the same exact thing right now. GM is also having a real big comeback and has been rated #1 for quality so 3 cheers for the good old USA! Bout time we beat out the competition.
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Post by earlwb on Dec 28, 2007 21:22:01 GMT -5
Unfortunately, most everything is "Made in China" nowadays. Its our Global Economy at work. As a industrialized nation starts to undergo the protection from environmental hazards and poisons in the environment phase, everything gets outsourced overseas to nations with lax environmental laws and cheaper labor costs. Unfortunately we are addicted to cheap prices, so that is the only way a business can stay competitive. We see it in the things customers purchase everyday, the customer will very likely go for the $10 item from China versus the $25 item from the USA.
Quality seems to have nothing to do with it.
There are some things still made in the USA, but you'll have to hunt for them and look really hard.
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Post by surfborg on Jan 6, 2008 9:53:55 GMT -5
I kind of like the "Made in China" toys. It reminds me of the danger toys of my youth. Hard metal Tonka Trucks. Lawn darts. Baby seats that didn't attach to the car seat. Awww... those were the days.
Surf
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Post by earlwb on Jan 6, 2008 13:08:02 GMT -5
Hey, I discovered something made in the USA.
When I had bought fuel tubing at the auto-parts store for my sccoter a year ago, it was a GATES branded fuel line and it stated it was Made in the USA on the inked on lettering.
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Post by tyrssen on Jan 6, 2008 17:35:23 GMT -5
The real problem with all this "made in China" stuff is our very own greedy government. They think in terms of short-term profits, which makes them richer, and have absolutely no real concern with the welfare of the nation as a whole. That, my friends, is the nature of capitalism -- which I tend to define as "the worship of money." Free enterprise, whole different story. I, too, have become disgusted at all the companies that have run for the hills, to use cheap coolie labor in order to gain a fatter profit margin. The Chinese are Communists, and they aren't really our good buddies. Business suits and McDonalds in Beijing do not change that. I think we're gonna regret this, as American economy continues to crash.
I'll apologize in advance, if I've stirred up a hornet's nest, here.
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Post by monty57 on Jan 6, 2008 18:09:30 GMT -5
Well, I think everyone here is right but nothing we do will stop the evolution of the process. When I was young (and that was a while) I don't remember anything even made in Japan until one day I bought a little mail box piggy bank with my hard earned pennys. An to my surprise and disappoint when I opened it, it was a Texaco oil can turned inside and and reformed and there to my little were the words the made med cringe, "MADE IN JAPAN". My dad was in World War II and Japan was sorta of dirty word in our house at the time. But as time when we grew to accept many of the cheap toys ( the one I could afford) were made there.
Then we jump to 60's and I am working at dirt track race track and there is guy selling the mot wonderful thing I had ever saw. I 50cc Japanese motor bike. For less that $300. Wow maybe these Japanese on on to something.
Now the seventies and I am a musician. A starving musician with problem of getting my equipment from job to job. Gas has just starting going through the roof. My God $.50 a gallon, $.60 a gallon where is it going to end. Sitting on a used car lot is a Toyota Hilux pick up truck with a camper shell over the bed. 30 MPG the guy says. Will you take a trade of a motor cycle? Sure and deal was done. Almost a 1000 pounds of equipment in the rear of down the road I went. Not very fast mind you but it went down the road and I did get 30+MPG and after 150,000 miles it was still running like a top and no break downs of any kind. Damn these Japanese are pretty clever!.
And so on and so on and so on.
The only thing constant in this world my friend is change!
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Post by Aaron on Jan 6, 2008 18:11:40 GMT -5
Fear not if the hornet's nest starts buzzing I have insecticide at the ready.
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Post by tyrssen on Jan 7, 2008 12:13:21 GMT -5
Thanks Aaraon, I appreciate that ... my views are rather controversial, and have stirred the pot on more than one occasion. Monty, I agree that change is (and, for that matter, must be!) constant. But I also think that we must influence that change in a positive manner, or lose the country. Now, at the risk of really raising a stink, I'll advise any who are interested to read my book, "The New Fascism: An Idea Whose Time Has Come," available on Lulu.com. And now I promise to shut up!
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Post by surfborg on Jan 7, 2008 12:45:57 GMT -5
Fear not if the hornet's nest starts buzzing I have insecticide at the ready. Aaron, Can you share that insecticide? I'm gonna be heading out to Tucson on saturday. Wanna spray the killer bees before they .... ya know .... kill me!! Surf |
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Post by YellowScooter on Jan 7, 2008 13:51:47 GMT -5
Labor cost. to sum it up in 2 words. We (usa) demanded higher $20+/hr wages and free health insurance from our employers. Well when our own labor exceeds a certain margin, the corporations goto other countries that will do the same work, use cheaper parts, and work round the clock for $2 week.
In a nutshell we unioned and striked ourselves right out of our own jobs. Welcome to Consumer/Retail America, because those are the only jobs that are gonna be left.
Where factories used to support most local economies, thats all going to fall on Wal-Mart, McDonalds, and Lowes for our livings. We did it ourselves! Now, do you want fries with that Mr. Woo?
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Post by earlwb on Jan 7, 2008 14:10:10 GMT -5
Yellowscooter, you forgot the medical services and the government. They'll suck up all the people who aren't in retail or food service.
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Post by jennings813 on Jan 7, 2008 22:29:16 GMT -5
My china Roketa 250 has a Gates drive belt! Gates may now be made in China. Just a little good news. 70 degrees today in souther WV, got the scoot out and rode with all the local Harleys. Still runs great!
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Post by p51mustang on Jan 8, 2008 19:14:25 GMT -5
mustang new to this site  I'm right at 57, and I can too remember the day's when USA was on almost everything, And now it shocking to see China on everything, But the carb on my scoot is Jap, and I think everything alas is China, |
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Post by cathouse on Jan 9, 2008 12:38:27 GMT -5
90% of the stuff we buy at wal-Mart or most any store is made in china, If those things were made here in the USA they would be so expense we couldn't buy them, it's a double edged sword . with the way gas prices, medical care and food stuff keeps going up it gets harder and harder to make ends meet, especially retirees and young couples just starting out and I can't see any end to it.,
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Post by tyrssen on Jan 13, 2008 12:36:49 GMT -5
At the risk of earning another few negative karma points (for some odd reason!) I'd say that the answer will be to withdraw from the international banking system, base our economy on the productivity of the American worker, negate the "national debt" which insures that America can never, ever repay it, and tend to our own problems first and foremost. With King George demanding more billions from US to pay for his foreign "adventures," things can only get worse, and I don't think his successor will be any better.
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Post by Glennby on Jan 13, 2008 14:59:59 GMT -5
I'll add my 2 cents......Fender guitars, strats selling for 249.95. china, usa versions selling for 1200 bucks.made in mexico selling for 600 bucks.450 made in mylasia(not sure of the correct spelling)ive priced these things,and yes they sound and play like the real things....so go figure on which one to buy.I went with a Gibson,and loving it!.MADE IN THE U.S.A!(Memphis baby).
Glennby
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