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Post by randy on Dec 2, 2007 9:54:21 GMT -5
I thought it was a nice road to take a scoot ride but not that hot to top out a "Super Maxi" I thought scootin was all about the ride
not in any particular hurry just enjoying the journey. For almost 8 minutes he was screwing around on what appeared to be a nice country road to get to a blink of the eye 105 mph. Very thin line between "balls" and stupidity. How many OLD stupid bikers are out there?
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Post by Dennis D on Dec 2, 2007 10:40:15 GMT -5
For almost 8 minutes he was screwing around on what appeared to be a nice country road to get to a blink of the eye 105 mph. Very thin line between "balls" and stupidity. How many OLD stupid bikers are out there? No... the 105 wasn't the point!! If it was, a minute or two on any straight piece of superslab could have shown that. And if it had been a STUPID biker instead of a very smooth accomplished one, it would have seemed much more racy and dangerous going through most of those curves at anything near those speeds. The whole point is what a smooth and well handling bike a Burgie can be in the hands of an accomplished rider. But for you.... from your very first post in this thread, it's obvious that the most important thing you expect from a "serious ride" is the highest straight line speed! Who cares how much quicker a sport bike will hit ridiculous speeds?? Most of us have no desire to be in the competition for a Darwin Award. But we are interested in something that's smooth, comfortable, and that will handle curves without getting out of shape..... while you were obviously impatiently waiting for that one brief instant the highest speed on the run showed up.... NOT the top speed, BTW. That particular bike tops out at 114 mph... certainly not fast enough for someone in serious competition for a Darwin award, but fast enough for someone who wants to travel the superslabs on a big scooter, or anything else outside of running errands in town, which is where your smaller scooters excel. |
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Post by YellowScooter on Dec 2, 2007 15:53:13 GMT -5
A jillion years ago I had a Triumph Bonneville 650 reading 130 of the speedo, but actual was 105. I also did 136.7mph on a Yamaha 350cc road racing bike at PIR in Az many years ago. My Norton Commando got up to about the same speed, probably same speedo error too. About ten years ago I was thinking about installing NOS on my Sportster. But when I was cruising at 85mph I found that I was only at 1/3 throttle with 2/3's left still, and since you need to be at full throttle before you hit the NOS button I quickly gave up that idea. Hey Randy scooters have their place, for example, getting trapped in rush hour traffic with a traffic jam of some sort, using the clutch on my Sportster gets to be a huge pain in the wrist and fingers after a short while. A strong clutch isn't so good in traffic jams. Sounds to me like you could use an auto-clutch. I think the company is EFM, they make auto-clutches for just about all the harleys. they go for $695 or something like that. But you can take off from a stoplight 1-handed like on a scooter in 1st gear, and it really eases up the stiffness on the clutch from the rest of the gear changes. Just google EFM auto clutches.. I cant get my bookmarks to come up....  |
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Post by randy on Dec 2, 2007 16:50:38 GMT -5
Dennis I went back and watched the video again paying closer attention and I noticed from a 70mph roll he held it wide open for 30 plus seconds. To me that is a top end charge to see what the top end is. It does appear to be very happy in the 70~85 mph range and very smooth accelerating to that range.
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Post by Dennis D on Dec 2, 2007 17:56:37 GMT -5
The Burgie takes more time than that to get up to top speed.... John, the guy who made the video said when he first got it, that he was sort of underwhelmed at how long ot takes to hit top speed... which is 114 indicated (though when GPSed, that was just over 105mph actual). Before the Burgie, he had a Hayabusa.... which he never found the top limit on, just didn't want to go there. I think he got rid of the Hayabusa when he got the Burgie... they actually have two Burgies, plus a small stable of other bikes. His wife rides a 650 Burgie also. They use them for traveling and camping trips, in addition to near daily use. I think, as more people who could care less about image and looking like a walking, talking biker caricature, get into two wheeled motoring,, we'll start seening increasing numbers of practical bikes that make fewer demands on a rider needing to have an understanding of torque curves and powerbands... hence, automatics. And there are plenty of older guys for whom constant clutch, heel, and toe, just to stay in the powerband, just isn't fun anymore... they don't need it. And for me, when I can easily grab gears and keep it right in the powerband, it still can be way too much fun, as I turn into a real adrenaline junkie with a peaky, highly tuned machine to play with. Many have even turned to large scooters because arthritis prevents them from swinging a leg over a motorcycle anymore... a problem for me also, if I get on from the left side of a bike. But as gas goes higher, "green" awareness gets more prevalent, and people realize there are two wheeled choices that don't require tatoos, loud pipes, and a bandana as a headpiece, in order to ride, we're likely to be seeing more and more choices of rides that defy any set of classifications of motorcycles known to date. www.bsmotoring.com/bsm/wcms/en/home/bikes/news-features/New-big-bikes-071201.html |
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Post by randy on Dec 2, 2007 19:35:12 GMT -5
Coming from a Busa that 105mph was like a cruise thru the park.
I think the Busa's top speed is right around 200mph . They are top end monsters. I take that back they are monsters.
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Post by scootgap on Dec 2, 2007 19:49:59 GMT -5
Dennis D, many if not most Big twin Harley riders called their rides "scooters" too. I think that would be a "Term of Endearment" Moped used to describe a scooter just seems wrong. Mo-ped, the ped in moped = pedals. No pedals no moped. But that's just my take. |
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Post by T W I S T E R on Dec 3, 2007 13:10:02 GMT -5
MO-PED:
Motorized-peddler = Mo-Ped
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Post by spazoo on Dec 9, 2007 7:58:13 GMT -5
Dennis I went back and watched the video again paying closer attention and I noticed from a 70mph roll he held it wide open for 30 plus seconds. The Burgman does not take that long to get up to speed. The rider was being much more careful than people are giving him credit for. This video gives a much better example of how quick the Burgie 650 gets up to speed. Not too shabby in my opinion. Plenty quick enough for a scooter. |
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