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Post by jake318 on Apr 4, 2009 0:23:43 GMT -5
There is a new jacket /system that has body armor . leather jacket with chest plate and back plate cost around 400$. Most Motorcycle deaths are actually caused by getting hit by automoble ( left hand turns across traffic ) and the motocyclist dies of internala bleeding in chest area . I know there are GEEKS that hAVE BEEN TOLD BY THERE MOTHERS THAT THE HELMET IS THE SAVIOR ( YES i BELEIVE IN HELMET USE ) BUT IN REALITY EVERYONE SHOULD WEAR PROTECTIVE BODY CLOTHING JAKE
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Post by owenbrau on Apr 4, 2009 8:55:01 GMT -5
Fine, I'm a geek. The helmet is still the most important piece of safety equipment. Internal injuries and bleeding are more survivable than head injuries. I also wear an armored jacket, jeans (at minimum), gloves, and safety shoes or boots. All are important. The helmet is critical. The fact is, if you are not wearing a helmet, a crash is significantly more likely to be fatal, and that of fatal accident where the rider was not wearing a helmet, a significant number would likely not have died had they been wearing one. www.edgarsnyder.com/auto-accident/motorcycle-accident/statistics.html |
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Post by WarrenS on Apr 4, 2009 15:23:08 GMT -5
The best safety device is the skill to avoid an accident. It is much better to avoid an accident than to survive one.
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Post by jake318 on Apr 4, 2009 19:43:12 GMT -5
Owen the Point is that your more likely to die from internal injuries than head injuries . You wear body armor but are one of the very few .... wht im saying is people shouldnt OVERRATE the safety of a helmet . To be safe as possible body armor is a must . Jake
WAR i tell my sons ... think as is every car cannot see you . Ive been riding In fast moving heavy traffic for almost 30 yrs and still here to tell the tale jake
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Post by harrywr2 on Apr 4, 2009 21:24:02 GMT -5
I'm all for more safety equipment.
But 45% of all fatalities are single vehicle accidents. The vast majority of those involve excessive speed. One of my buddies ended up being one of those statistics. 90 MPH into a tree...doesn't matter what safety equipment you ae wearing...it is not a survivable accident....not in a car with air bags...not on a motorcycle in any conceivable circumstance.
So it's easy to say "internal injuries" are the primary cause of death.
A better statistic would be what were the primary causes of death in a "Survivable Accident".
The best helmet money can buy is only good for an impact speed of roughly 20 MPH.
I managed to crack a Shoei helmet in half doing battle with left turn larry....I didn't have any internal injuries...lot of injuriess to my arms, legs,feet, hands though...all the things that a nice tourmaster jacket, boots, gloves and riding pants would have protected. Left turn Larry's car was totaled as well.
The helmet got to be king because of the percentage of accidents that were 'otherwise survivable'. There was good solid medical and statistical evidence that a helmet designed to absorb the impact from being dropped 6 feet would save a substantial portion of the fatalities.
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Post by jake318 on Apr 4, 2009 21:54:57 GMT -5
More people actually die ( )percentage wise ) of head injuries in automobiles than motorcycles . its because of not wearing seatbelts and people hitting thier head on the windshield. yhats why i like airbags .. yes they are not as good as seatbelts but they are always on . jake
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Post by jake318 on Apr 4, 2009 21:56:46 GMT -5
if I could get a size 50 armor jacket I would buy one in a heartbeat ( need 2 size 50s and a 54) 2 Sons and myself. jake
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Post by owenbrau on Apr 5, 2009 8:14:00 GMT -5
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Post by jake318 on Apr 5, 2009 19:45:35 GMT -5
thanks Owen !! Question .. the Jacket actually has hard plastic / fiberglass shell in the jacket itself ? chest/ back ? if it does ill get 3 my sons and myself Jake
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Post by owenbrau on Apr 5, 2009 22:01:39 GMT -5
It's not hard plastic, but a multi-layer dense foam that has (engineer speak ahead) a non-linear response to shear. That means that it is flexible when you move, but under impact it is stiffer. The armor is CE approved. I gave you the wrong link for my jacket; I have the Intake 2- www.tourmaster.com/xcart/catalog/Intake-Air-Series-2-Jacket-p-269_3.htmlMore armor; elbows, forearms, shoulders, upper chest, kidney area, and back.. |
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Post by bob67 on Apr 6, 2009 15:24:42 GMT -5
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Post by bob67 on Apr 6, 2009 15:31:47 GMT -5
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Post by chaz12 on Oct 4, 2009 0:19:46 GMT -5
The best safety equipment is a helmet. Second maybe clothing- bright colors. Leather jacket and good pants( I wear blue jeans). Third might be gloves and boots. Fourth might be common sense- like check over one's scooter to be sure it is in good operating condition. Fifth might be checking fluids regularly and doing the maintenance as required. Sixth might be using mirror correctly.. Seventh might be obeying speed laws and other rules.
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Post by chaz12 on Oct 4, 2009 0:29:44 GMT -5
A chest plate... well one might as well not dare to get on a scooter. Heck, might as well not get out of bed, if you are that nervous about having a accident. The chest plate will not surpass the helmet for the single most important equipment. With a chest plate, well you could still end up dead. I know people that wore a helmet and still died. Nothing will be 100% garranteed that we will not die in an accident, but common sense helps us alot to avoid them.
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