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Post by 2strokd on Jul 7, 2009 10:28:29 GMT -5
I had my cover off yesterday for a cleaning and inspection of parts. I picked up some graphite powder at autozone for $3 so i figured i would give it a try. After a cleaned everything up i put my rollers(sliders in my case) back in and tapped a little powder in the ramps, and on the variator bushing(that helped it spin noticeably better). After i put Skeedr back together Uncle and i went for a ride, he did the same to his scooter. I noticed a better "shift", and just smoother all around, with better take off! I figured it would help out but i really wasnt expecting that much. My stuff wasnt that dirty before either. I would recommend graphite if you havent already used it
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 7, 2009 10:29:39 GMT -5
Update on my belt from Autotech: I had my cover off yesterday for a cleaning and inspection and noticed that my belt had a tear in it . Its not all the way through, the back of the belt tore about half inch long, it was a very thin peice of the belt so i cut it off before it tore more off. I also used some rubber cement to try and slow down the tear. Autotech sells good stuff for the money spent, im not sure if the belt was a lemon or if they are just crappy belts?
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 7, 2009 13:47:21 GMT -5
I was sick of my ugly rubber (welcome mat) floorboard so i ended up putting this stuff from 3-M on there. Its very sticky stuff and works great, allot better than the welcome mat i had. Sometimes my foot would even catch it and it would roll up and mess up my footing. i almost threw it one day . Now im happy ;D and i think this looks better to. Heres the old mat Heres the new one
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 7, 2009 22:18:37 GMT -5
I was heading to the bank today and got a few blocks from home when cruising along at about 40mph i let off to stop for a train when i heard the most god awful noise, it was like a screaching grind and it kept pace with motor RPM. As i was checking traffic to pull off the road thinking i just lost my top end for sure . i got it safely to the side of the road, i had already killed the ignition. I looked at the only other thing that came to mind that would cause such a bad noise that would stay the same rpm as the motor. Thank all the blessed gods in the f-n universe it is just the variator. I looked though a cover cooling hole and saw that the variator nut had backed out causing the fan to get a little lighter . I ended up pushing Skeedr for a change since i didnt have my tool pouch with me. It wouldnt have helped much any way, i use an impact to tighten the nut. The reason i figure it came loose was because i didnt make sure the belt was out of the way and wasnt between the variator plates, and i tightened the it onto the belt, so as soon as i moved the scooter and the belt moved the variator started coming loose. I think the only reason it took 30 miles to back out is because i use lock tight on the threads.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 9, 2009 11:05:42 GMT -5
I just won a set of 10in Zuma wheels with a set of almost new set of Michelin Boopers off e-bay ;D. They cost me almost $160 shipped but i figure it was worth it considering the tires alone would have set me back about $100 or more. The wheels are aluminum and they are the style i have been wanting so i am a happy camper right now . I cant wait to see how Skeedr rides with a set of Boopers on some nice wheels painted black , maybe powder coated black? hhhmmm
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 18, 2009 20:19:27 GMT -5
Well i got my tires and wheels in the other day. My suspicions were correct, the wheels will fit but the brakes are bigger. I no i could fix the front easy with a set of zuma shocks but im not sure what to do with e rear brake. I ended up mounting the tires on my wheels for now and i must say WOW ! What a difference a good set of tires makes. I knew they would help but man since getting them on i have realized how dangerous the stockers were getting. it sits about a half to 3/4inch higher so im thinking about lowering it 1/2inch. I can jamb it through corners with allot more confidence and its a bit faster on top end but slower on the take off, not much though.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 22, 2009 10:08:02 GMT -5
A got this from my uncle. He bought it new the past winter and hasnt used it since the weather changed, so i offered to buy him a new one to match his scooter as well as this one does mine
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 26, 2009 10:48:09 GMT -5
I added some fan lighting this weekend, i also painted the fan red. The light is just a cheap LED tail light i had and modified to fit.
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Post by 90GTVert on Jul 26, 2009 11:03:12 GMT -5
Make it flash and add a flashing blue one somewhere else. lol
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 26, 2009 18:33:54 GMT -5
Nnnaaaa maybe not. That wouldnt even be cool at a show lol.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 30, 2009 11:16:37 GMT -5
I was on my way home last night when i came up to a stop light with 3 sport bikes with guys with their chicks on the back. I rode up next to the one in the back and said hi, he said hey then the light turned so we took off. I took off like i normally do from that light and they must have been going slow cause i past them all pretty quick and i wasnt at WOT. I think they were just puttin along then thought "what the hell, is that a scooter? Is it on fire?lol" At the next stop i made my turn and took off on a wheelie. When i set it down and turned they were all still at the stop sign watching me. That was my Mr.Cool highlight of the day lol . Until i got home and realized i had TP hanging out of my pants flapping in the wind . No im just kiddn about the TP. That would be funny though ;D
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Post by Reign on Jul 30, 2009 11:45:03 GMT -5
I was on my way home last night when i came up to a stop light with 3 sport bikes with guys with their chicks on the back. I rode up next to the one in the back and said hi, he said hey then the light turned so we took off. I took off like i normally do from that light and they must have been going slow cause i past them all pretty quick and i wasnt at WOT. I think they were just puttin along then thought "what the hell, is that a scooter? Is it on fire?lol" At the next stop i made my turn and took off on a wheelie. When i set it down and turned they were all still at the stop sign watching me. That was my Mr.Cool highlight of the day lol . Until i got home and realized i had TP hanging out of my pants flapping in the wind . No im just kiddn about the TP. That would be funny though ;D very nice! ive done so many mods to my triton so far, just trying to get it to wheelie, but it just doesnt have enough power. ive changed the rollers to 4 grams, the clutch springs to 1500, the torque spring to 1500, and put on a leovince ZX derestricted pipe, but i feel like its all barely done anything. i maybe have a little bit faster takeoff, but nowhere near enough to wheelie.
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Post by 2strokd on Jul 30, 2009 14:15:05 GMT -5
Ive got a Polini bb kit that does most of the hard part, i just balance. I could do a wheelie with the stock 49cc motor but it is way harder to pull em up with less power thats for sure. Are you hoping for a power wheelie or are you pulling up to get it started? Mine will only wheelie if i pull up to get one going. Mine has felt on the edge of starting to pull up on its own, even floated the front wheel across the far end of an intersection that is sloped pretty good. To get one of these to power wheelie would take allot of power. Dont get me wrong they are out there i have seen em on utube, im just not sure there are many daily driven scooters that will do a power wheelie down the street.
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Post by Reign on Jul 30, 2009 20:40:32 GMT -5
i think i need to mess with the mixture/idle screws on my carb because it seems like its running way too rich and it idles really high recently. i tried pulling up when i took it out for a ride earlier, but i think im too weak
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Post by 2strokd on Aug 16, 2009 17:49:40 GMT -5
Well i finally did it!!!! I got Skeedr to "Power Wheelie" from a stop without pulling up on the bars ;D. I was so happy i was shaking the first time it did it. My buddy was standing in front of my house watching and thought it was cool. He asked if i was shaking lol, and i said "yea, i guess i am, this is a big accomplishment for me". So being the good friend he is he got even more excited too. Its not really any more "power" causing the wheelie, its more getting the trans and motor to match up and come on as a team into the power. Here is a video my son made of Skeedr doing a few wheelies, im just along for the ride. I wasnt going for distance, just showing that it will "power" itself up into a wheelie. In one of the wheelies you can see me start to pull then stop, its more like i straightened my arms. Hard to not pull up when you are used to it
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Post by Reign on Aug 16, 2009 18:27:16 GMT -5
Very nice! I can't wait til I can get enough money to order a Polini kit like you have. I gotta buy a boost bottle from Vert too. I'm gonna try to do a cheapy vacuum port like you did, just cut a small hole in the intake and glue the hell out of it What are all of the parts you would recommend if I wanted to be able to do basic power wheelies. it doesnt have to be pure power, just as long as the engine is doing most of the work and not me. As I said before, i'm running 4 gram rollers, 1500 RPM clutch and torque springs, and a LeoVince ZX.
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Post by 2strokd on Aug 17, 2009 8:34:48 GMT -5
The vacuum port i used has got a flat surface that i put on the inside of the intake so it cant "pull through" the intake by accident or whatever. I did some grinding and filing to make it as smooth as possible inside the intake. I think i have another vac fitting like the one i used, if so i will make another and post pics so you see what im trying to explain. You gotta be careful unless you have a spare intake. I froze my intake before i did any drilling, ohh and make the hole a bit smaller than the boost fitting so it will fit good and squeeze tight around the fitting for the best seal you can get. As far as "power" wheelies go, i dont think its gonna happen without the help of Polini or another bb kit with low-end punch, or a high end kit with high end punch . You are on the right track though... I run 4.5g Dr.pulley slider weights, 2,000rpm clutch springs(that helps), a 1,500 torque spring. The variator work i did put me into the power wheelies but only from a dig or very low speed(without pulling up anyway), with the help of Polini of course. There is no way i could do a power wheelie with the stock cylinder, unless i set it up so tight the clutch wouldnt engage until it sky revved, it would be like revving a car way up then dumping the clutch.
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Post by Reign on Aug 17, 2009 8:55:38 GMT -5
sounds good, I'll be picking up a Polini kit soon then. And I do have a few spare intakes lying around I actually have 2 full engines with only 1000 miles each on them. I figure I'll use one of those as my project engine, and build it in the basement, and then when its done, just pull out the engine mount bolt and slide it in. That way I dont risk messing up the engine I already have, which runs SO great.
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Post by 2strokd on Aug 17, 2009 9:23:30 GMT -5
Good idea reign. Can i come over and play too? lol, im getting jealous here. Not one, but two full spares.?. Sweet, your in there like swimwear bud!
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Post by Reign on Aug 17, 2009 9:36:42 GMT -5
Good idea reign. Can i come over and play too? lol, im getting jealous here. Not one, but two full spares.?. Sweet, your in there like swimwear bud! If you lived a bit closer, like Chicago or so, I'd invite you over Hopefully you can get some pictures of the inside of that intake for me.
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Post by 2strokd on Aug 19, 2009 19:49:41 GMT -5
Sorry i have taken so long. I really dont feel like taking my intake off for just a pic, i have it sealed up well. I will make another fitting and show you what i mean with it.
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Post by 2strokd on Sept 13, 2009 15:16:47 GMT -5
Got a new UNI clone filter like the one Vert has off the bay for $11.95. These things FLOW ! I had the carb off many times up jetting to get it rich enough at WOT, went from an 80 main to a 100 main to keep enough fuel flowing. It was tricking finding a place to tuck this beast of a filter. I ended up putting it right in front of the cooling shroud outlet. I didnt like the fact of it being right were all the heat is but at least its in front of the outlet so it should get plenty of cool air while cruising. I like it, throaty as hell and allot better response than before . Top end is about the same i think? I havent really let it go for more the a quarter mile or so. Its breathing better at 9,600 i know that. Here it is next to my old filter On the carb with a funky (temp) adapter Stuffed into the scoot Think it was a bit lean? This was with a 86main. My normal burn is on the left. I ended up with this, right is 100ish, left is 80 main jets
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Post by 2strokd on Sept 13, 2009 15:19:09 GMT -5
Good idea reign. Can i come over and play too? lol, im getting jealous here. Not one, but two full spares.?. Sweet, your in there like swimwear bud! If you lived a bit closer, like Chicago or so, I'd invite you over Hopefully you can get some pictures of the inside of that intake for me. Sorry it took so long, but hey i finally had my carb off so heres a pic of the inside of my intake.
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Post by Reign on Sept 13, 2009 15:35:28 GMT -5
I see, nice and smooth. I may end up shaving the end off of the plug that I put on my intake, because it sticks out quite a bit on the inside of the intake, I'm sure it reduces the flow of things. I ended up drilling out a hole, screwing it in, and using high-temp silicone from walmart on the outside to keep it in place and get rid of any leaks. Now I just need to get the starting issues fixed (probably clean my carb out) and I should be good to go. On another note, I was thinking about getting a 70cc kit, but looking at the price of things, and the performance I've gotten so far after all the money I've stuck into this thing, I may be going a different route. Once I get about $700 saved up, I'm going to order a 250cc water cooled engine from partsforscooters and fabricate a mounting bracket to fit on my Triton. That way I can still "legally" drive it as a 50cc (dont have a license) but its technically a 250cc (though the DMV doesn't need to know that ) Let me know if you think this idea will work.
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Post by 2strokd on Sept 14, 2009 9:37:04 GMT -5
I did spend some time making sure there wasnt any eddy,s in the intake, every bit helps right . I think the right 70 kit with the right setup is worth its weight in gold ...But i am a diehard gearhead and anythings possible if you set your mind to it.... I think a L/C 250cc in a 49cc based scooter would be a beast . A ton of fab work for sure A 70cc beast pushing as much or more HP than a 250 is more up my alley for now. Ill support ya on it though if ya decide thats the way ya wanna go
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Post by 2strokd on Sept 14, 2009 9:42:53 GMT -5
BTW, even the gas/oil resistant stuff i bought ended up getting gummy and loosing it seal on the boost bottle fitting. I think if i would have cleaned the intake better first this might not have happened. I ended up putting a bit bigger fitting in and using a zipstrip on the outside to keep it from pushing into the intake. This is the stuff i bought
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Post by Reign on Sept 14, 2009 10:19:09 GMT -5
Hmm. You know, I never thought about the HP advantages of a 70cc over a 250cc. My mind was thinking "250cc = better and faster" but now that I really think about it, why spend $700 on an engine that would need at least another $400 to $500 worth of parts to make it work with my scooter, when I can just spend $160 or so and get a Polini 70cc kit. That sealant you used looks just like the slicone I used. I think it was the same brand. At least the box looks the same. I sanded the outside of the intake to make it rough first, then put on 2 coats of silicone, waiting 24 hours in between each coat.
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Post by 2strokd on Sept 14, 2009 14:17:10 GMT -5
That should seal then if you cleaned it well, ruffed it up, and waited 24. I didnt do all that, i should have. Hold on now, im not saying a Polini Sport 70 will put out more HP than a 250cc (you are talking 4stroke right?) Im just saying that its possible to make more HP with 70cc,s than a 250cc. I agree, you could spend allot less building a quick 70 than shoehorning a 250 into your Triton for about the same power results...
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Post by Reign on Sept 14, 2009 15:32:18 GMT -5
That should seal then if you cleaned it well, ruffed it up, and waited 24. I didnt do all that, i should have. Hold on now, im not saying a Polini Sport 70 will put out more HP than a 250cc (you are talking 4stroke right?) Im just saying that its possible to make more HP with 70cc,s than a 250cc. I agree, you could spend allot less building a quick 70 than shoehorning a 250 into your Triton for about the same power results... With already having all of the extra's, the only thing I'm missing right now is a 70cc kit. Yes the 250cc is 4stroke. As for power results, I think the 70cc would be mainly for low end, and maybe a bit of top end power, where as the 250cc, is mainly all top end power. I hear that 250cc's can get up to around 85 MPH, and thats when they're in a 250cc scooter. Here I would be putting it into a 50cc scooter, with about 1/3 of the weight. We'll see where the road takes me though. I may end up getting the 70cc kit, and if I don't like the results, I'll sell the whole engine as-is with all of the performance upgrades already done to it. I'm listing both of my spare motors in the flea market section.
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 14, 2009 21:15:12 GMT -5
I'd consider a 150cc GY6 swap before I'd go over to a 250cc. I'm not really familiar with the 250s, but I know that there isn't much performance stuff and they are gonna be big enough to cause you lots of trouble trying to fit into a Triton. If you absolutely must go 85MPH, I'd consider selling what you have and buying a new 250cc. Get your M license and tags and insurance. If you think it's cheaper to just swap it in, you might think otherwise when you get pulled over. I can't imagine a 250cc is just gonna fit and look stock and I'm pretty sure you aren't getting away with cruising at the speeds a 250 is capable of for long. It's bad enough going over 50MPH with a 70cc kit and getting on the brakes as fast as you can when you see a cop. They're gonna notice a 49cc doing 80+MPH for sure. Then you could be looking at an impound, unregistered mototrcylce, driving without an M license if you don't have one, driving an unisured vehicle, speeding, and whatever else the officer might feel like. Just a bit to think about before you jump into a deal on a 250cc engine you may find somewhere.
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