100cc scooters, but which one?

[motomech]

Well, it looks like I'm being transfered to the big city, San Jose, in Jan. and I need a sm. street fighter to split lanes with(no rules there).
There are a couple of very kewl "big" 2-smokers not available in the States.
One, of course, is the 100cc Zuma, called the BWS here.
The other is the Genesis "Hussar", a 90cc model. It looks like this(with spec.s in Spanish);

www.crmotos.com/motocicletas/genesis/scooters/genesis_b08.htm

It's a QJ scoot, same makers of Keeway, Strada, Vento, etc., 50cc scooters, so I think it's a decent quality Chinascoot. In fact, it looks like a Triton.
But I'm kinda torn as to which one, they both have +'s and -'s.

Price(out the door)-The Hussar, at $1300, has a big edge over the $1900 BWS.
Storage-Again the Hussar has the edge, I would have to buy a trunk for the Zuma.
Tires-The Genesis comes with decent Duros, while I would have to replace the block tread stockers on the BWS(it rains a lot there). But, I would install Pirelli's, better than the Duros.
Style-Subjective, but I like the look of the Hussar better(they are solid metallic blue) than the "bug-eyed" Zuma.
Suspension-Big edge to the Yamaha, I think the frt. forks on the Hussar are the spring only type(like on the Vento Zip:(
Power-Slight edge to the BWS(10cc bigger), but the both can be easily mod.'ed. Pipes are made "in country" here and are nice and reasonable. Along with an air box/filter mod and maybe a big carb., these both could be 60 to 65 m.p.h. scooters, plenty!
Quality-The Yammie, of course, but I think the Genesis is ok.

The only reason I'm mulling over this now, is because there are only two Hussar's left in the country and they tell me there are no plans to import more. One is here in the beach town where I live.

Which would you pick?

Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Gary

[scosgt]

You could consider the Stella. It is much more expensive of course, but it is 150cc two stroke, direct drive no belt, and you probably would not need to do any mods at all, as it is already pretty fast.
Just a thought.

[iamverb]

Stella's are great, but if you're navigating lots of downtown traffic, the CVT is a lot more convenient.

If the price isn't prohibitive, I'd go with the BWS. I've ridden a couple of the 2-stroke 50s, and they're great bikes. You might look under the seat before committing to a trunk - there's a lot more space under the seat than on other scoots.

Also, I found the original knobbies to be fine on the road, and the worst tire I've ever seen was a Duro (though it may have been a fluke), so I'd say to upgrade to the Pirellis either way.

[jtl]

I vote for the BMS. Lots of support and parts. Some people are buying rebuilt 100cc BWS motors and putting them on their 50 cc Zumas. Same frame so it is a direct bolt on. IIRC the price on a rebuilt BWS was $1500 delivered, although there were a few other mods.

[motomech]

Oct 14, 2008 13:32:18 GMT -5 jtl said:

I vote for the BMS. Lots of support and parts. Some people are buying rebuilt 100cc BWS motors and putting them on their 50 cc Zumas. Same frame so it is a direct bolt on. IIRC the price on a rebuilt BWS was $1500 delivered, although there were a few other mods.

<<<<Lots of support and parts. >>>

Yeah, but I'm in Costa Rica.

"Support" is pretty much an unknown concept here.

I do suspect there would be some parts for the BWS 100 though.

When I try and order parts for my Suzuki's(DR350 and TS200R)from the dealer here, they can usually get about halve of them(in a month).
When I say, " "But they all come from Japan anyhow, why can't you get the other stuff?".
I just get blank looks

The German product are the best for parts. I can get anything for my BMW, for about 40% over what I would pay in the States.

[kb]

I have a Diamo Velocity 150 and the head lights suck! Okay I am out of good things to say about it. ;D

[90GTVert]

Better parts availability for the BWS, even though it still sounds like it's not so great, is definitely a plus. Given your mechanical backround and abilities, I don't think the cheaper scoot would worry me too much unless you just can't get any parts. If you can't get parts some things just aren't fixed by the average joe or at all. Obviously you have the internet, so couldn't you have parts shipped to you from outside of Costa Rica if necessary? The $600 would pay a lot of international shipping charges.

[scooterollie]

Get the Chinese scoot, then you could see what we have to put up with! LOL

Seriously, either would be fun. Depends on how much of a project you want. On the BWS, you would work on it because you want to, on the QJ, it might be that plus "need to". The hussar is a sharp looking scoot and it does have 12" tires. Only 10" on the BWS? My friends 125 Zuma only has 10" tires. Also depends on how much you will need to rely on it and how many miles/years you think will be applied to it. The BWS will be just about bullet proof.

[hardd1]

Deceleste(Uruguay) or Motomel(Argentina) may have something for you. They have a new 150cc scoot with 14" wheels (Strato) that is cool. They will also market the scoot in the USA under their Baccio line...... maybe they have a 2-stroke that will work as well...;D