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Post by kaintuckdave on Sept 17, 2008 21:37:59 GMT -5
Haha, got behind a scoot today on this several mile 35 mph road. He was a bigger guy than me, but he was struggling to do 24 mph up hills and getting to 30 or just over down. I was using really no throttle at all and kept creeping up on him, but didn't see any point passing him although I could have easily blown by. Kept checking the mirrors and nothing close behind so no point really.
Just thinking of Karl and Brent comments about the supreme superiority of the simple and strong 2 stroke, 'specially in the smaller cc's.
Next time might have to blow his doors off! (so to speak) ;D
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Post by jayhawk on Sept 17, 2008 22:43:45 GMT -5
Ha! I love zipping past other 50cc scoots on my deristriced Lambretta Due50. 2 strokes rule!
I actually zipped past a Modern Buddy 50cc the other day...I'm assuming it wasn't de-restricted...either that or my scoot was simply faster (despite me being 165lbs and the Buddy rider looking like a stick figure).
Eric
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 18, 2008 0:01:57 GMT -5
Next time might have to blow his doors off! (so to speak) ;D Get him! ;D That dude I mentioned in another thread is still going by my house full tuck doing like 30mph every evening. My master cylinder comes in tomorrow. If my brakes are working, he'll feel the breeze (and probably hear the Wolo air horn) as the blackest scooter on the face of the earth passes by.  I know, I'm a jerk. Sorry.  |
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Post by 90GTVert on Sept 18, 2008 0:04:26 GMT -5
The raw, growling 2 stroke power! This reminds me of Austin Powers... sorta... 2 strokes put the GRRRR in scooter! (Yeah I know it would be TRRRR, but work with me here.) |
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Post by Karl on Sept 20, 2008 15:16:32 GMT -5
Next time might have to blow his doors off! (so to speak) ;D Get him! ;D That dude I mentioned in another thread is still going by my house full tuck doing like 30mph every evening. My master cylinder comes in tomorrow. If my brakes are working, he'll feel the breeze (and probably hear the Wolo air horn) as the blackest scooter on the face of the earth passes by. I know, I'm a jerk. Sorry. LOL! |
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Post by Karl on Sept 20, 2008 15:17:14 GMT -5
Haha, got behind a scoot today on this several mile 35 mph road. He was a bigger guy than me, but he was struggling to do 24 mph up hills and getting to 30 or just over down. I was using really no throttle at all and kept creeping up on him, but didn't see any point passing him although I could have easily blown by. Kept checking the mirrors and nothing close behind so no point really. Just thinking of Karl and Brent comments about the supreme superiority of the simple and strong 2 stroke, 'specially in the smaller cc's. Next time might have to blow his doors off! (so to speak) ;D You just gotta love 'em! There's just something magical about a 2-stroke. |
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Post by w8tlftr on Sept 22, 2008 8:30:23 GMT -5
Awww Man! I agree there's nothing like the simple power and sound of a 2 stoke motor, I almost bought a 4 stroke before I bought mine, oh gosh so glad I didn't do that. Plus with most 2 strokes you can do all kinds of mods and get alot more GerrrrrrRRRRR! From your scooter.
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Post by motomech on Sept 22, 2008 19:42:39 GMT -5
I've owned many two-strokes over the years(I guess you could say I'm queer for them)and it's always fun to surprise people on them. I had a built Yamaha RD350 "Boy Racer" in 1979. It was pretty quick, running low 14's at the local track. One night with my girlfriend on the back, while riding in DC, I got got passed by two newbies on bright, shinny sport bikes(900's, I think). I could tell they were newbies, because they had their butts way back on the seats The light changed red up ahead and I rolled right in between them, splitting their lanes. I still smile when I remember my girlfriend's plaintive cries of, "no, please Gary, don't do this". I glanced left and right and all three of us leaned forward the instant before the light changed. It's tricky to launch a bike like that, it really wants to either wheelie or bog down, but this time I hit it just right and was gone like a shot. I backed out of it around 70 m.p.h., as the two sport bikes came flying by, both riders flat on the tanks.. I could imagine their dismay, beat buy a little ring-dinger, with a girl on the back yet! Sometimes two-strokes can be a little too thrilling. When trying to climb the "Sand hill" on my piston-port, points ign., "72 Yamaha MX100 and I couldn't make it(often), sometimes the engine would stall and then restart rotating back wards  Still, riding in N. Idaho, I usually ended up riding four-strokes, although the two-smokers were more fun. I needed the engine-braking the a thumper provides for those long, killer down hills. These days, I don't do "killer" down hills and both of my dirt bikes are two-strokes. you just can't beat the instantaneous power to loft the frt. wheel when riding in the woods. When the $500 micro-processor went out on my Suzuki TS 200R(Japanese home market, street legal enduro), I just pinned the power-valve in the full down position. So, maybe I lost a few H.P. from the specified 35 h.p., but it still jumps and will stay up with 350cc to 400cc four stroke enduros. If I go out with the Big Boys on their DZR 400's and CRF 450's, I take the old KTM 300EXC. This is the engine that many consider to be the best woods motor ever built. Affectionately called the "Three-Stroke, it combines the the low-end "chugginess" of a thumper(better actually,, it will lug down to where it's just ticking over and with no "off-power" stroke for the engine to die on, almost can't be stalled), but still maintaining that mad rush on top that only a two-stroke on the pipe can produce. Frankly, it scares me and there is almost nowhere where I ride that I can keep it pinned for more than a few seconds. It's such a great engine, that it has remained virtually unchanged for 25 years, it's just 8 lb.s lighter these days. With with the addition of electric start last year, a lot of KTM450 and 525 riders are coming back into the fold. |
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Post by jayhawk on Sept 22, 2008 22:36:22 GMT -5
My Lambretta 50cc is starting to break in...I hit 45 mph tonight going up a slight incline. After spending 2 hours cutting up tree branches, my wife let me know "there is something wrong with the sink". Thinking it was leaking somewhere, I was relieved to see it was just clogged. I hit the 45 mph, pissed and tired, when I ran out for more plumbing tape at 9pm (after all our local plumbing stores close, I hoped Target had it, but it didn't). The dang clog is too far for my 16 foot snake, so it's Roto-rooter tomorrow.
Still, 45 mph on a slight incline is good for my scoot. I wonder if it will still get better? I'm at 486 kilometers.
Eric
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Post by Karl on Sept 22, 2008 23:00:17 GMT -5
I've owned many two-strokes over the years(I guess you could say I'm queer for them)and it's always fun to surprise people on them. I had a built Yamaha RD350 "Boy Racer" in 1979. It was pretty quick, running low 14's at the local track. One night with my girlfriend on the back, while riding in DC, I got got passed by two newbies on bright, shinny sport bikes(900's, I think). I could tell they were newbies, because they had their butts way back on the seats The light changed red up ahead and I rolled right in between them, splitting their lanes. I still smile when I remember my girlfriend's plaintive cries of, "no, please Gary, don't do this". I glanced left and right and all three of us leaned forward the instant before the light changed. It's tricky to launch a bike like that, it really wants to either wheelie or bog down, but this time I hit it just right and was gone like a shot. I backed out of it around 70 m.p.h., as the two sport bikes came flying by, both riders flat on the tanks.. I could imagine their dismay, beat buy a little ring-dinger, with a girl on the back yet! Sometimes two-strokes can be a little too thrilling. When trying to climb the "Sand hill" on my piston-port, points ign., "72 Yamaha MX100 and I couldn't make it(often), sometimes the engine would stall and then restart rotating back wards Still, riding in N. Idaho, I usually ended up riding four-strokes, although the two-smokers were more fun. I needed the engine-braking the a thumper provides for those long, killer down hills. These days, I don't do "killer" down hills and both of my dirt bikes are two-strokes. you just can't beat the instantaneous power to loft the frt. wheel when riding in the woods. When the $500 micro-processor went out on my Suzuki TS 200R(Japanese home market, street legal enduro), I just pinned the power-valve in the full down position. So, maybe I lost a few H.P. from the specified 35 h.p., but it still jumps and will stay up with 350cc to 400cc four stroke enduros. If I go out with the Big Boys on their DZR 400's and CRF 450's, I take the old KTM 300EXC. This is the engine that many consider to be the best woods motor ever built. Affectionately called the "Three-Stroke, it combines the the low-end "chugginess" of a thumper(better actually,, it will lug down to where it's just ticking over and with no "off-power" stroke for the engine to die on, almost can't be stalled), but still maintaining that mad rush on top that only a two-stroke on the pipe can produce. Frankly, it scares me and there is almost nowhere where I ride that I can keep it pinned for more than a few seconds. It's such a great engine, that it has remained virtually unchanged for 25 years, it's just 8 lb.s lighter these days. With with the addition of electric start last year, a lot of KTM450 and 525 riders are coming back into the fold. Gary, When I first started reading the part about your KTM, I thought you were going to say that you got the 380 "Widow Maker". I almost bought one myself then some friends talked me out of it. I should have gone with my gut and got it anyway. I am happy with my KX250 (VForce3 reeds, FMF Gnarly pipe, dropped the front CS sprocket a tooth), suspension set up for woods riding. I also have a Yamaha YZ250F setup for woods riding, too. But there've been 2 times that I couldn't take the YZ riding because I started doing maintenance to it and couldn't get the parts in time. Once was due to lack of available sized shims when I was checking valves, and the other was because I put a Magura clutch on and a part was missing out of the box. My KX has the most "fun factor". Lightweight and flickable in the woods. |
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Post by Brand-X on Oct 3, 2008 0:32:23 GMT -5
KX500 here, and MY GOD!!! you better hold on if you grab a hand full of it cause its goon try to find the moon. soon to have a Genuine Stella scooter with a 210 kit on it and pollini pipe with a 24/24 carb...80mph on 10 inch wheels...gotta love it!  |
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Post by Karl on Oct 4, 2008 23:28:54 GMT -5
Talk about your widow maker, I got the chance to ride a KX500 about 3 years ago. Man, is that thing a beast!
If you're prone to having your shoulder pulled out of it's socket, then it's best to stay off of that bike!
Do you ride Red River in Bulcher?
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Post by trigerman on Oct 5, 2008 23:06:47 GMT -5
2 stroke honda dio japan made is what i used before, men ,it's very powerful, and faster. even going uphill. no sweat. four strokers makes 4 strokes to produce one cycle, unlike two stroker, it makes only 2 strokes to make one cycle., that's instant power dude. and the motor is simple, no need to mess with timing chain and valve gap etc.
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Post by Brand-X on Oct 10, 2008 0:53:50 GMT -5
ride all over, Meunster, Greenville, Corsicana, Canton. the KX500 like open spaces. thinking of putting the motor in a Ninja 250 frame if i can come up with a lighting coil that would work
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I know, I'm a jerk. Sorry. 
