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Post by Cowboy Dan on Sept 14, 2008 20:02:08 GMT -5
CA my buddy has a 49cc he went driving at night. no insurance M-class permit. he got pulled over and because he didn't have insurance yet he got towed, 300 bones to get it out. and because he only had a permit and it was night, it counts as not having a license. so now hes got to go to court on that.
he had plates and current CA registration though.
not me. i have AZ plates and the tags expired in '96.
registering something that was last registered out of state is such a hastle.
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Post by buiditright on Sept 17, 2008 5:13:14 GMT -5
Bob67 In my state of MD it is like yours all you need is a valid DL. How do you like your meitian?? I am getting ready to get one. Bill
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Post by scootanshoot on Sept 18, 2008 15:30:30 GMT -5
Virginia-no license, no insurance 50cc or under-however as of July 01, 2008 if you go over 35mph you get a ticket for riding unlicensed motorcycle
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Post by spb8980 on Sept 22, 2008 21:02:15 GMT -5
Hi folks, Here in N.H. If the scoot goes over 30mph on flat ground and is over 2hp it's considered a motorcycle, therefore you need a mc endorsment,but they don't check,register it as a moped with no inspection, and insurance is optional on all vehicles, unless you have a DUI, then it's madatory.scoots haven't really caught on here in southern N.H.
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Post by milano on Sept 23, 2008 2:56:04 GMT -5
they recently changed the law in indiana or at least fort wayne, where all scooters must have insurance, title, plate, valid DL w/ m endorsement. Most of the local officers are mainly concerned about all the little 14 yr old kids weaving in and out of traffic riding doubles and get smacked by buses. I'm legal minus the DL.... 28 more days... Hey everybody makes mistakes. I'm responsible on my scoot always flashing brake light to alert followers of braking. I love watching peoples faces as they see me turn through intersections almost dragging a knee on a scooter. One corner in particular everyday on the way to work i always get looks as it is a nice sweeping 90 taken at about 35+. I think the law is BS though. they didn't need to change it, just take care of the problem.
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Post by twitch1369 on Sept 23, 2008 17:29:55 GMT -5
MN here
LESS than 50cc, 30mph cap, and 2hp cap,Moped plated, DL required, Insurance questionable.
so i have been de restriced i do about 40mph, legal to park on sidewalks (outside the court house was the best one, fighting a ticket for window tint on my cobalt SS) insurance im not sure about, i have it for piece of mind but ......
recently purchased a go fast kit, but the ticket here goes to the driver, not the vehicle, so if your doing 50 on a "moped" with a motorcyle endorsement..... all is good,
Its twisted here, but its cheap so, i gonna keep scooting till its too cold to do so
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Post by lavoyermn on Sept 28, 2008 10:33:42 GMT -5
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Post by rocketdog on Oct 6, 2008 21:15:22 GMT -5
Straight from the TN Motorcycle Manual. "MOTORIZED BICYCLE: (under 50 cc) The motorized bicycle does not have to be registered, nor does a certificate of title need to be obtained. An owner may register the vehicle under regulations issued by the Commissioner of Safety. No endorsement is required on a driver license in order to operate a motorized bicycle; thus, the motorized bicycle may be operated by anyone with a valid driver license. Goggles, windshields and other special equipment required for motorcycles and motordriven cycles are not required for operation of a motorized bicycle. However, crash helmets are required regardless of the operator’s age. Minors between the ages of 14 and 16 may apply for a restricted license to operate a motorized bicycle, just as they would to operate a motor-driven cycle. For instance, they must take a written test, vision tests and demonstrate the ability to operate the motorized bicycle. The license issued will be restricted to a motorized bicycle only. The license is valid only during daylight hours and within a seven-mile radius of the driver’s home. Applicants less than eighteen (18) years old must complete a Minor/Teenage Affidavit and Cancellation form making the parent or legal guardian financially liable for the applicant’s action."
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Post by jtl on Oct 9, 2008 8:45:09 GMT -5
Florida requires a valid DL, and issues a motorcycle plate with annual yellow registration stickers similar in content to the pink one shown in the above pic. You must have a helmet and/or insurance. I had to supply the title to the DMV certifying that the scooter was 50cc or less. And they looked up the brand (Rocketa at the time) to see if it could be registered in the state. Simple......... I believe in FL no helmet is required if (1) you are over 21 and (2) can provide evidence of at least $10,000 in medical coverage which may be provided under your medical insurance policy (3) you must wear eye protection or have a windshield. As far as the licensing goes IIRC in order to use a regular DL the sccoter must be under 50cc, not produce more than 2 BHP and not be able to exceed 30 MPH.
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Post by mustang64 on Oct 9, 2008 11:17:53 GMT -5
The NYS Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation web site has information about snowmobile insurance, safety training and other information.
Mopeds (Limited Use Motorcycles) Are there any special requirements to operate a limited use motorcycle (moped) in NYS? The Vehicle and Traffic Law defines a limited use motorcycle as "a low-speed vehicle with two or three wheels." Terms frequently used for limited use motorcycles are "mopeds" and "motor scooters."
The requirements to operate a moped are like those for motorcycles. You must have a driver license and you must register a moped to drive it on streets and highways. The exceptions to these requirements are listed in the table below. You can never operate a moped on a sidewalk.
The DMV certifies a moped as a Class A, Class B or Class C limited use motorcycle according to top speed. The manufacturer requests the certification through the DMV Technical Services Bureau. Only a DMV-certified model of limited-use motorcycle can get a registration in NYS. The phone number for the Technical Services Bureau is (518) 474-5282.
To register your moped, bring the following to a DMV office:
A completed form MV-82 (Registration / Title Application). A completed form DTF-802 (Statement of Transaction for Sales Tax ) or proof of exemption or tax paid. The requirements and forms for mopeds are the same as those for motor vehicles. See the information about sales tax. Proof of ownership, normally the Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin (MCO), a bill of sale or a previous registration that was transferred to you. Proof of identity. Cash, check or credit card for the fee. Pay the fees and required sales tax.
Guide to Limited-use Motorcycle Requirements Class Determined by Range of Top Speed A Over 30 mph to 40 mph B Over 20 mph to 30 mph C 20 mph or less License/Permit Required Class M/MJ 1 Any Class 1 Any Class 1 Registration Required? YES YES YES Headlight on When Operating? YES YES YES Helmet and Eye Protection Required? YES YES Recommended May Operate On Any Traffic Lane Right-hand Lane or Shoulder Only 2 Right-hand Lane or Shoulder Only 2 Insurance Required? YES YES Recommended 3 Inspection Required? YES Recommended Recommended Title Required? NO NO NO Learner permit restrictions apply to all permit classes. Junior operator restrictions apply to class DJ and MJ permits and driver licenses. See Learner Permits and Junior Licenses. Except when making a left turn. Class C moped used in a rental business must be insured.
Motorized Scooters, Mini-Bikes, Dirt Bikes, Go-Karts, Motor Assisted Bicycles You cannot register any of the motorized devices from the list below in NYS. You cannot operate these devices on sidewalks, public streets or highways in NYS. These devices are motor vehicles, but they do not have the correct equipment or design for operation on roadways.
Motorized Scooter - a device with a motor attached and a handlebar for a standing rider. An example of a motorized scooter is the device called the Go-ped®. Mini-bike - a small, motorized device with two wheels and created for off-road use. A mini-bike does not qualify as a moped, a motorcycle or an ATV. Dirt Bike - a motorized device like a motorcycle, but created for and used for off-road use. Some "dirt bikes" qualify as an ATV. These vehicles can register and operate off-road as an ATV. Go-Kart - a small, motorized device with four wheels, created for off-road use. You cannot register a go-kart as a motor vehicle or ATV because a go-kart does not have the same equipment. Motor-assisted Bicycle - a bicycle to which a small motor is attached. A motor-assisted bicycle does not qualify for a registration as a motorcycle, moped or ATV and does not have the same equipment. These devices are not allowed on any street, highway, parking lot, sidewalk or other area that allows public motor vehicle traffic. You are subject to arrest if you operate one of these motorized vehicles and do not have a registration, driver license, inspection, insurance or correct equipment. The DMV can not provide any information about operation of these devices on private property. Contact the local authorities and property
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Post by kaybee on Oct 16, 2008 18:56:18 GMT -5
Here in Wisconsin you need a moped plate ($24 for 2 years) and a DL.
The Harley Dudes overturned our helmet law so none required but I use one because I'm a mom and it keeps the bugs out of my eyes.
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Post by iamverb on Oct 16, 2008 20:41:30 GMT -5
I've been trying to figure it out since I got to New Mexico, and it's not easy. There's very little in any of the MVD guides. Please add to this if you know more. Here's what I've got so far:
Under 50cc and not capable of going over 30 mph is a moped. You can use one on any street with a speed limit under 45 with any driver's license. No plate, no registration, no insurance.
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Post by teknoyd on Nov 4, 2008 23:49:25 GMT -5
Kansas - Below 50cc - $16 a year tag, no insurance needed, no MC endorsment needed on DL.
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Post by heraclitus on Nov 27, 2008 15:34:06 GMT -5
Delaware: DMV does not distinguish between moped or scooter. scooter is a moped. Must be 49cc or less. HP must be less than 2.4 HP. Moped (scooter) can't be capable of exceeding 25mph. When you take a new scooter to DMV you must first go thru inspection lane (can't be up on truck bed). The lane guy will check your VIN. You then take Certificate of Origin (which the dealer has assigned to you) in and get a title, registration, moped plate and sticker good thru Dec of following year. all moped's plate stickers expire in December (Why ?). You do not need insurance. The lane guy does not check anything except the VIN. The lady at the counter, while I was getting the title and tag asked how fast it would go. I said 25 mph. You do not need a MC endorsement but must be 16 or older with a valid DL.
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Post by Scootless Wonder on Jan 21, 2009 11:00:09 GMT -5
Virginia-no license, no insurance 50cc or under-however as of July 01, 2008 if you go over 35mph you get a ticket for riding unlicensed motorcycle In addition to that, you are required to wear a helmet as well as have all appropriate lights just like any other vehicle on the roads and of course highways/freeways are a no go.
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Post by Blayne Mathieu on Feb 16, 2009 12:39:55 GMT -5
British Columbia Canada: 50cc & under are considered "Limited Speed Motorcycles" Description | LSMs are low-powered motorcycles or scooters. LSMs rely on motor power and are generally not equipped with bicycle-style pedals | Propulsion | 50 cc or less OR Electric motor under 1,500 watts
| Maximum speed | 70 km/h on level ground. | Vehicle registration, licensing and insurance | An LSM must be registered, licensed and insured as a motor vehicle | Driver requirements | Operator must have a driver’s licence of any class (i.e. doesn’t have to be a motorcycle licence) | Helmet requirements | Must wear a motorcycle helmet | Rules of the road | Subject to the same rights and duties of a motor vehicle, such as obeying all traffic lights and control devices. | Labels | As a condition of initial sale, all commercially manufactured LSMs must bear a permanently affixed compliance label. On this, or on another separate label, a statement must appear that the use of the vehicle may be restricted by provincial authorities to certain roads. |
Quoted from ICBCBasically all the restrictions of a motorcycle except the special License. Also from ICBC: Definition of a limited-speed motorcycle
- no more than 50 cubic centimetre engine displacement or 1.5 kilowatt motor rating
- does not require clutching or shifting after the drive system is engaged
- has a maximum speed on level ground of 70 kilometres per hour
- weighs no more than 95 kilograms excluding fuel and batteries
- wheels must be 25.4 centimetres in diameter or more
FYI: 95 Kg = 209lbs. 25.4 cm = 10" ICBC = Insurance Corporation of British Columbia
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Post by mikeg311 on Mar 15, 2009 20:06:05 GMT -5
here in NC (for now) NO license, registration, tags, or insurance required. However some law makers are trying to push a bill through that will require all of the above. It's ashame too, I know alot of people that lost their drivers licenses for some reason or another, and that's the only way they can get back and forth to work. There is no public transportaion around unless you live in Raleigh or one of the other major cities. Senate wants all the paper work, and the House has a bill to increase the speed limit from 30mph to 50 mph. Trying to get a petetion started to stop this from happening. I'm all for the reg, tags, and title, but the license part will put alot of people out if work. Just what we need now, more out of work people.
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Post by vegasscoots on Mar 31, 2009 16:14:38 GMT -5
TGB 101s Key West from Nevada checking in here. In this state, a person is not required to carry liability insurance or register their scooter as long as it is under 50cc. It gets a little hairy on the driver's license issue, though. The DMV states that a person needs to have a regular driver's license to operate a scooter out here, while the NRS (Nevada Revised Statutes) states that a person doesn't. If a police officer pulls somebody over without a general driver's license, a ticket will be issued. That can be beat in court, but it is going to take personal time and money to do so.
Under the law, though, they do differentiate between a moped and a scooter. As long as the vehicle can be pedalled manually, it is considered a bicycle and is not subject to the DMV's jurisdiction.
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Post by tortoise on Mar 31, 2009 19:45:18 GMT -5
Nevada checking in here . . . The DMV states that a person needs to have a regular driver's license to operate a scooter out here, while the NRS (Nevada Revised Statutes) states that a person doesn't. Clarification statutes . . . NRS 483.065 “Driver’s license” defined. “Driver’s license” means a license issued under the laws of this State authorizing a person to drive a motor vehicle in this State.NRS 483.090 “Motor vehicle” defined. “Motor vehicle” means every vehicle which is self-propelled, and every vehicle which is propelled by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires but not operated upon rails. “Motor vehicle” includes moped.Nevada DMV moped information. Enforcement policy example.
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Post by jamesb69 on Apr 7, 2009 9:10:52 GMT -5
well mike we find out today if it happens hope not like the rest of nc ppl but yea so far we need nothing
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Post by YellowScooter on Apr 7, 2009 19:12:30 GMT -5
I got a DL, but the scooter itself, the paperwork is a lost cause. As Im sure 2/3 of NC non-maxi scooters are.
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Post by sinistar556 on Apr 16, 2009 22:56:06 GMT -5
I have a problem here. I got a scoot with a Ohio title and I need to get it registered in a different name in Florida. The back of the Ohio title is very confusing, and I'm not sure if I really need a notary to transfer it to florida, but the back of the title asks for a notary signature and registration number.
Has anyone done this? If you have any input please message me on the site here.
Thanks.
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Post by mikeg311 on Apr 18, 2009 19:15:01 GMT -5
well mike we find out today if it happens hope not like the rest of nc ppl but yea so far we need nothing Sen. Rand has pushed the bill through, with some changes. Tags, Title, and Registration required. No DL. Not sure when it goes up for its 3rd and final reading, so far it has passed the 1st two readings with very little opposition
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Post by mikeg311 on Apr 18, 2009 19:20:29 GMT -5
NC House has a bill to increase max speed for a 50cc. The new max would be 50MPH. You can't do 50MPH with a 50cc without maxing the engine unless you installed a aftermarket kit
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Post by jamesb69 on May 17, 2009 8:07:33 GMT -5
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Post by edwardscat on May 24, 2009 23:59:09 GMT -5
Calif To dirve a Scooter Driver's License Requirements
Motorized scooter
Effective 1/1/2005, a Class C driver license or driver permit is required.
Motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, motorized bicycle/moped (Section 406(a) VC)
Must obtain an M-1 or M-2 endorsement on a driver's license. M-1 allows the driver to operate a motorcycle, motor-driven cycle and moped M-2 allows for operation of a moped or motorized bicycle only. To obtain an M-1 or M-2 endorsement, the driver must: Pass the appropriate written exam Pass riding skills test (DMV will accept certificate of competence from an approved novice motorcyclist training program instead of skills test, such as the California Motorcyclist Safety Program). If the individual is under 21 years of age, mandatory successful completion of a Basic Rider education course approved by the CHP is required, such as the Basic Rider course available through the California Motorcyclist Safety Program.
Helmet Motorcycles, Motor-Driven Cycles, Motorized Bicycles/Mopeds (Section 406(a) VC ) - A helmet meeting Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 218, self-certified by the manufacturer and displaying a 'DOT' emblem must be worn by all riders of motocycles, motor-driven cycles, and motorized bicycles/mopends. Scooter 150cc and less A Motor Driven Cycle has 149CC or less engine size. CVC Sec. 405 A Motor Driven Cycle has to be registered and driver must have a Motor cycle license (M1).
Motorized Scooters A motorized scooter is a two-wheeled device that has handlebars, a floorboard designed to be stood upon when riding, and is powered by a motor.
The California Vehicle Code does not require registration, license plates to be displayed or the scooter to be insured.
Even though insurance is not required, owners of these scooters should contact their insurance company to determine if coverage is available.
An operator of a motorized scooter must be at least 16 years old, possess a valid drivers license or instruction permit, and wear a helmet.
A motorized scooter may be operated on a bicycle path, trail or bikeway, but not on a sidewalk. On the roadway, it must be operated in the bicycle lane, if there is one. On roads without bicycle lanes, motorized scooters may operate where the speed limit is 25 mph or less, and shall be ridden as close to the right hand curb as possible, except to pass or turn left.
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Post by Icehawk on May 25, 2009 2:01:42 GMT -5
FL - Driver's License, regular plate, no insurance although technically you must wear a helmet or purchase partial insurance.
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Post by warrider on Jun 3, 2009 7:32:26 GMT -5
Here in Connecticut anything under 50CC (49.5 ) is considered a bicycle with a "helper motor" there was a law that said it had to have pedals but it was revised in the early 90s. all thats needed here is a valid DL.
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Post by mylesbriggs on Jun 3, 2009 18:08:28 GMT -5
Rhode Island Requires the bike to be registered. as long as it is 49.5cc and under you do not need a motorcycle lic for it. there is no helmet law in Rhode Island, but there is one in Massachusetts. the bike must also be insured
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Post by batman2696 on Jun 19, 2009 9:07:18 GMT -5
This is New Mexico Law as I have found after researching it.
66-3-1101. Mopeds; standards; operator requirements; application of Motor Vehicle Code.
A. Mopeds shall comply with those motor vehicle safety standards deemed necessary and prescribed by the director of motor vehicles.
B. Operators of mopeds shall have in their possession while operating a moped a valid driver's license of any class or permit, issued to them.
C. Except as provided in Subsections A and B of this section, none of the provisions of the Motor Vehicle Code [66-1-1 NMSA 1978] relating to motor vehicles or motorcycles as defined in that code shall apply to a moped.
D. As used in this section, "moped" means a two-wheeled or three-wheeled vehicle with an automatic transmission and a motor having a piston displacement of less than fifty cubic centimeters, which is capable of propelling the vehicle at a maximum speed of not more than thirty miles per hour on level ground at sea level.
As refrenced in C. 66-1-1. Short title. Articles 1 through 8 of Chapter 66 NMSA 1978 [except 66-7-102.1 NMSA 1978] may be cited as the "Motor Vehicle Code".
Article 3 is the article that says a vehicle is required to have registration and article 5 is where the financial responsibility (insurance) is required. So the way I read, 66-1-1 encompasses 66-3 and 66-5 so therefore I am not required to have insurance or registration.
Also in NM a person age 13 can get a licence for a motorcycle under 100cc. My son has been riding his 99cc dual sport motorcycle to school since the 7th grade and he goes riding with me on the scooters.
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