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Post by shalomdawg on Jun 19, 2009 20:17:42 GMT -5
howdy, i agree with danw that they are going to find new ways of taxing those of us currently saving fuel and being responsible. oregon and washington are considering(so i understand) adding a mile tax and all sized vehicles will pay the same mile tax. this is rediculous and counterproductive to the environment thing.
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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Post by ILLGotti on Jun 24, 2009 2:40:28 GMT -5
yeah North Carolina kinda rules for scoots. For 50cc all you need is a helmet. And cops cant tell if a 50's been souped up....
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Post by tortoise on Jun 24, 2009 13:26:55 GMT -5
North Carolina . . . For 50cc all you need is a helmet. And cops cant tell if a 50's been souped up They don't need to . . if clocked over 30 mph, you could potentially be cited for numerous motorcycle violations. "A moped cannot have a motor of more than 50 cubic centimeters, an external shifting device or have the capability of exceeding 30 miles per hour on a level surface." . . NCDOT |
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Post by erictheviking666 on Jun 24, 2009 14:01:57 GMT -5
Your right! But, unless you live in a small town with no crime you will probably be all right. Where I live they have real crimes going on and don't have time too hound Scooter riders. Now I don't blaze by them at 45MPH (thats just asking for it), but generally they don't pay any attention to me. If you live in a small town the cops can get bored and have more time too check out every vehicle. So as long as you don't drive like an idiot you can modify your 50cc all you want. Just be careful and don't get caught because they can impound your Scooter until you get your endorsement.
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Post by ILLGotti on Jun 25, 2009 4:42:05 GMT -5
I've passed cops doing 40 and they could care less. And my scooter did 40something unmodified, so that law is retarded from the start, and I'm sure the cops don't even really care. Its a waste of time to enforce. But why do you even care, when you drive a 150?  |
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Post by jamesb69 on Jun 25, 2009 10:04:27 GMT -5
true gotti but after dec 1 09 some new laws start up from what i read on the nc web site and tortoise i have a super pocket bike with a 110cc auto when they ask i just tell them its a 50 never had any trouble with the cops ya just got to watch out for them and thangs like that
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Post by YellowScooter on Jun 27, 2009 12:42:09 GMT -5
yeah North Carolina kinda rules for scoots. For 50cc all you need is a helmet. And cops cant tell if a 50's been souped up.... Oh they can tell, it's a question of whether or not you've given them a reason to give a crap. If your just minding your own and not acting stupid with it, they're not gonna mess with you. I've been thru several Lic/DWI roadblocks with my sticker-whipped 150cc and have never been so much as questioned. I show my ID, they flag me on, with the occasional "nice scoot man" as I'm waved on thru. |
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Post by moot on Jul 8, 2009 10:07:26 GMT -5
I live in England, here you need to be 16+ for 50cc, have a provisional licence, take a CBT (compulsory basic training) course (which takes half a day) and you need to have at least 3rd party insurance.
Also, you must display L plates front and back if you don't have a full bike licence.
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Post by chromedome on Jul 15, 2009 16:12:04 GMT -5
After getting widely different answers from motorcycle dealers, different DMV folks and local Police, I called the Arkansas State Police and the nice lady read me the most current rules and regs:
Less than 50 cc is considered a Motorized Bicycle.
One needs to have a valid Driver's license or a Motorized Bicycle Certificate to operate it.
One needs to have a valid Driver's license or permit to get a Motorized Bicycle Certificate. (so if your license is suspended --- no riding the scooter!!!)
One needs to have valid insurance.
Registration of the "motorized bicycle' is not required.
I had 2 local dealers say that you didn't need anything to ride the scooters and that the 49cc's were the DUI/DWI offenders' way of getting around town! Guess they'll say just about anything to make a sale. I'm going to let them know what the State Police rep told me.
Even tho I found several Arkansas license websites that said no insurance was required, she told me that now one needs to have insurance.
Darn! Here I was trying to down size to save on insurance and other costs.
Well, I'll still order the scooter anyway.
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Post by erictheviking666 on Jul 16, 2009 0:04:23 GMT -5
Yeah thats too bad. The main reason I bought a 50cc is because it's one of the last unregulated vehicles around. While you have to have a tag & DL in Florida you don't need insurance.
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Post by titanrider2008 on Jul 16, 2009 1:01:33 GMT -5
I think as the economy continues as it is they, the law enforcement agencies, will start issuing more and more citations as a source of revenue. I know they are doing that here in Ohio and if you go to court they will find you guilty and suspend the fine but you still have to pay court costs of $85.00 or more.  |
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Post by erictheviking666 on Jul 16, 2009 1:34:58 GMT -5
Yeah thats true in a way. All government agencies talk about ways to end all drunk driving. However, if that was done most if not all states would be near bankruptcy. The revenue generated from all the fines, court costs, DUI schools, counseling session, etc. is enormous. Just think last year when gas was over $4.00 a gallon and people actually cut back on driving, the states were scrambling to figure out a way to recover the loss tax revenue from less fuel sales. I understand California is still broke and I read an article today where there is discussion on finally legalizing Marijuana because a study showed they could make almost 1.4 billion dollars off the taxes on weed alone. www.theledger.com/article/20090715/NEWS/907155064If California finally does it other states will soon follow if only to find a way to increase revenue and balance the budget. |
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Post by Jake aka: Ventoscoot on Jul 16, 2009 2:56:57 GMT -5
Utah's License Law's
Depending on the size motorcycle you are tested upon, you may be restricted to what size motorcycle you are permitted ride.
These restrictions are:
0 = 90 cc or less
2 = 249 cc or less
3 = 649 cc or less
If you are tested on a motorcycle with 650 cubic centimeters or more than you will have no restriction on your license and you may ride any size motorcycle.
If you are tested on a three-wheeled motorcycle you will have a restriction on your license allowing you to only ride 3 wheeled motorcycles. This includes two wheels on the front or the rear of the motorcycle.
Like has been said before, here in Salt Lake, most cops could care less about a scooter unless it is obviously a big one, ie: 250+ I got stopped a couple of months ago for 62 in a 50 and teh cop said he had to clock me twice just to make sure he was reading it right. He told me to slow down "'cause we don't need to be worrying about scooters to" and told me to have a nice day.
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Post by tortoise on Jul 16, 2009 13:09:21 GMT -5
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Post by Alsenor on Jul 23, 2009 19:47:44 GMT -5
By contrast, I just ran into this online info by the Oregon DMV: Oregon’s insurance law requires every driver to insure their vehicle, including a motorcycle or moped, if it is operated on any highway or on premises open to the public. The minimum amount of liability insurance required is:
• Bodily injury and property damage liability—$25,000 per person; $50,000
per accident for bodily injury to others; and $10,000 per accident for damage
to property of others.
• Uninsured motorist coverage—$25,000 per person, $50,000 per accident for
bodily injury.
They seem to ruin the whole idea of getting a 50cc just for buzzing around town! Even require insurance coverage like an MC. One may as well get a real scooter then... Damn red tape!  |
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Post by msmracing on Aug 19, 2009 0:35:57 GMT -5
PA
requires valid plate
insurance
calss c driver license
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Post by upnorthlibrarian on Sept 18, 2009 14:35:32 GMT -5
NOOB Here
What is the status of NC & scooters?
I ride mine 3 miles to and from Duke (which treats it as a bicycle -- sweet...no parking fee and can use any bike rack!!). Right now, no tags, etc. Is this gonna change?
UNL
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Post by supermel74 on Oct 23, 2009 22:34:12 GMT -5
Maine - Drivers license or moped permit
- Liability insurance
- Registration and plate
**Must meet all the following criteria * 2 or 3 wheels * *Each wheel (not tire) is 10" or larger in diameter * Motor does not exceed 50 cc's OR * Electric motor not exceeding 1,500 watts
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Post by redundant on Nov 9, 2009 12:53:04 GMT -5
Mopeds
A moped is any motor driven cycle with an engine not exceeding 50 cubic centimeters (3.05 cubic inches) that can propel the cycle at a speed not to exceed 30 miles per hour (MPH) and does not require clutching or shifting.
Mopeds are exempt from the provisions relating to the registration and licensing of motor vehicles.
Rules to operate mopeds on Georgia roads and highways:
1. Must be 15 years of age and have in their possession a valid driver’s license, instructional permit or limited permit.
2. Must wear protective headgear (motorcycle helmet).
3. No tag is required.
4. Every person operating a moped upon a roadway must obey the same traffic laws governing drivers of motor vehicles.
5. May not use limited access highways or other roadways where the minimum speed limit is above 35 mph.
(Note: 2 or 3 wheels)
Also, alot of people get away with Vespas and the like that are 50cc and under, but off course have clutch/shifter.
Also, they don't enforce the speed limit, unless you are speeding ( which is major dumb... ).
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Post by kelley on Dec 7, 2009 15:44:14 GMT -5
Mich, no plate, Moped tag, good for 3 years, $15, valid DL, no helmet, unless 16 or younger. no ins.
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Post by ILLGotti on Dec 9, 2009 0:13:44 GMT -5
NOOB Here What is the status of NC & scooters? I ride mine 3 miles to and from Duke (which treats it as a bicycle -- sweet...no parking fee and can use any bike rack!!). Right now, no tags, etc. Is this gonna change? UNL Your good. Technically your not supposed to do over 30mph. In Greensboro I have never seen a pulled over scooter so... As far as it changing, no one can be sure. But its seems this state has a bit of sympathy for people without licenses. It would seem that NC wants everyone to be able to get to work and PAY some taxes. I would be pretty surprised if we saw any changes any time soon. Some sort of law was proposed recently and we (NC voters) didn't let it pass. |
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Post by ramee on Dec 17, 2009 22:19:43 GMT -5
NV doesn't require registration or insurance just regular driver's license.
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Post by daniel50ccsunel on Jan 13, 2010 12:38:44 GMT -5
Virginia: No licens, No tag, No insurance, No helmit in some places but most everyone wears them. Has to go under 35. Can not go on roads over 45 but that is usually not inforced because in the country you would not be able to go anywere. And your licens if you had one can not be revoked or suspended. Last thing you must be 16 to operate it on the road.
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Post by fw5000 on Feb 1, 2010 11:08:06 GMT -5
In Nc, Yes No plate no Insurance no DL.
I was wandering if that bill passed or not I guess It didn't because I haven't hear about it.
I have I Yamaha 2009 Zuma 50cc (insured and Im still making payments for it 180 for 12 moths), never had been stopped by caps I drive very carefully, I had one qingoi 150cc 2007, was rocks but Some one stole it from my front yard (never had problem with cops with this one).
I want to tune up just something simple, my only and actual one Yamaha Zuma 50cc 2t, at the Yamaha dealer where I got it from, They said $30 for take off one piece that goes inside the transmission or some where I don't remember exactly, they said just take a 30 min and will increase a 20% the performance I may do that.
I love my bike it helps me to buy groceries and go work, I can have a car or a motorcycle right now if you know what I mean
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Post by deadlyvirus on Feb 6, 2010 22:26:39 GMT -5
Washington State:
D/L required with plate and tags. No insurance required. Anything over 50cc needs special endorsement.
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Post by quick50 on Mar 2, 2010 22:32:00 GMT -5
Georgia - no tags, no title, no insurance - but you do have to have a valid driver's license...
Reading some of the Texas issues - when I was at TAMU I had a YSR-50 that would do 75mph. I got popped once (speedo pegged at 45mph) doing 65 in a 55 and the cop pulled me over mainly to see what the hell I was riding.
Gawd I miss Texas...
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Post by jdagg2003 on Mar 8, 2010 2:13:27 GMT -5
Kansas - Below 50cc - $16 a year tag, no insurance needed, no MC endorsment needed on DL. I was told You have to have insurance if it doesn't have pedals. I would do it anyways its like $80 a year. And my tag was $44( based on the price of scooter). But the rules seem very unclear. Joey |
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Post by flatlandbmx101 on Mar 12, 2010 1:24:33 GMT -5
freedom? FREEDOM!!! |
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Post by yowster on Mar 22, 2010 8:01:04 GMT -5
In N.C the speed is 35 and it doesn't have to be tagged.Some yahoo congerssman tried to get you to have to have liabilty insurance on them about a yr ago but I don't believe the law ever passed for this year. We want no until we get the ticket because that's how N.C. operates, they will not post it.
Yr's ago they use to change the speed from yr to yr, one yr it was 22.2 now where did they get that junk from then it would go back to 35 to 30 and so on. Now this was before scooters were allowed without a tag, it had to have pedals. They left that out of the law back in the mid 90's because yamaha and honda had a lot of 50cc scooters they couldn't sell because they had to be tagged. Now back then you could ride a 250 honda helix in S.C. without a tag at all.
Law's are getting stricter in N.C. for scooterest but that liabilty insurance law will never stick. You might as well cut the scooter rentals at the coast owners throat and alot of the manufactors are not going to go out of the way just so N.C. can have titles for the 50cc and under scooters. I've notice that some are producing them but what about all of the stollen ones that people are selling. Man that runs way up into the thousands. It was just a way for the broke state to try and gouge some one that doesn't have alot of money but alot of owners rasied hell about it and the politicians shut up.
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Post by tortoise on Mar 22, 2010 12:18:45 GMT -5
In N.C the speed is 35 and it doesn't have to be tagged.Some yahoo congerssman tried to get you to have to have liabilty insurance on them about a yr ago but I don't believe the law ever passed Per North Carolina DMV . . "A moped cannot have a motor of more than 50 cubic centimeters, an external shifting device or have the capability of exceeding 30 miles per hour on a level surface."North Carolina Senate Bill 135 history. |
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