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Post by denzj on Aug 30, 2010 21:33:09 GMT -5
Hello Dawgs! Looking for a Linhai clone engine new or used running assy for my 07 JMstar 250 that was bought in 07 from a E-bay dealer the engine crank broke 3 months later due to poor crank metal defect the bike was covered for 1 yr. was running great and fun to ride.. The seller promised me a replacement for over 6 mos i called and called every week and got the run around ETC and then he just vanished (No names) and is no longer in existence to my knowledge so i Sadly abandoned my China Scoot in the shed in august 07 due to lack of parts.  I have searched all over and gave up.. I just took it out today washed it and have the busted motor apart with Bent valves, and sheared crank. I would like to know if anyone has a Linhai clone engine engine Used or can suggest where i can get one for a reasonable price W/O Carb and starter. Well i have found one on line store with a complete motor here www.scooterpartsplace.com/250cc-Water-Cooled-Scooter-Engine.aspxIt's exactly what i need but Over $1100 Shipped!  90% of the scooter's Cost and value so not practical for me to spend that much. Would be happy for spend $500 max really. I even thought of adapting a GYC 150cc To it being they are plentiful for around $300 to $400! Why the Linhai clone engine shortage? Any help to save my scooter from scrap would be greatly appreciated.  Dennis |
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Post by widehide on Aug 30, 2010 22:14:19 GMT -5
Dude, sorry buy I would Scrap it, there is nothing you can do to survive your disaster. Please try to sell it as a parts Scooter, even then you will probably not get an offer. Start from new with a name brand scooter. sorry, nothing good to to encourage you, Please don't take this as a negative condemnation of the Chinese Scooters, I have 2 of them that now are running great after 2 years of modifying and de-bugging the numerous problems. Just accept the fact you had a bad experience. Let it go to some other rider that has "NEW ENERGY" and maybe lots of MONEY, Good luck.
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Post by kevinharrell on Aug 31, 2010 7:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by thedirtypickle on Aug 31, 2010 9:08:07 GMT -5
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Post by turtle8 on Aug 31, 2010 10:08:27 GMT -5
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Post by denzj on Aug 31, 2010 16:22:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies I won't scrap it just yet, I know it's a cheapo scooter. it got n my MC License and $1,400 miles logged! I was so disgusted with it when the seller left me hanging, and it was a Fairly new model before Reflex clones a nice looking bike (Will post Pic soon) So Parts were almost impossible then, Well it sat a few years and i have regained interest again in it. Not that money is an issue Sure could Dump $1000 into it for that New one But it's Not Worth it being it's worth $1200 running.  I'm certain Someone somewhere out there has another scooter similar with other major problems with a good engine i hope soon will show up one day. the engine i need is the exact one in the $1099 Photo the other $699 one has a different wheel gear mount box though the main engine is the same. I wish the Reflex engine would fit!  Sure some welding and wiring it could work but would it be worth it? the Price is Ideal for this though.. I am looking into getting a decent real bike soon but would like to get this going again for fun rides. ;D Thanks, Dennis |
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Post by denzj on Sept 2, 2010 20:21:52 GMT -5
Hey There again Dawgs Thanks to 260orbust for the Tip to www.thefind.com was a great help! Well No luck on any complete engines @ a good price However i do Think i can Get the main needed components to fix it with some work.. Crankshaft from= Scooter Dynasty= $169.00 Motopartsmax.com= (Bare head) none avail complete. $185.95 Valves for the head= $49.95 Will have to Swap springs and can ETC I can do it. So far $305.89 W/O the gasket set Well as long as i can locate a correct Service manual to get the Timing chain Right i should be set GY6 150s are a dime a Dozen when i search for scooter engine on the bay but not much when 250cc is entered.. Thanks again i may try to repair it being the head and crank are shot all else is fine. Anyone have experience with either of the two Sites for parts? Scooter Dynasty Motopartsmax.com If i ever get another scooter i think it will be a Suzuki Burgman!  I will never buy another knock off again! But this one will be a good local run around bike! If all is good i will give it a shot! Dennis |
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Post by Gary on Sept 3, 2010 17:07:07 GMT -5
Dennis,
Have you tried craigslist for cheap used 260cc scooters? Maybe you could swap engines? There's a 2008 Lance listed here in San Diego for $500. Looks brand new - owner is probably tired of messing with it.
gary
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Post by denzj on Sept 3, 2010 18:51:36 GMT -5
Hi Gary thanks,
Sure I check that along with E-bay daily now Hoping for a $350 to 500 Complete engine shows up to no avail.
Sure i would take a $500 Scooter and trouble shoot the bugs out But I'm on the East coast NJ None ever any good cheap really..
How come soo Many GYC 150s? Well this bike was available with a 150cc I wonder Eliminate the Liquid cooling and fan and i guess change the CDi??
I think it will bolt right up?
Just i have Disk brakes and most are Drum types on E-bay.
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Post by fairweasel2323 on Sept 6, 2010 22:14:47 GMT -5
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Post by denzj on Sept 7, 2010 17:55:31 GMT -5
Thanks fairweasel2323 This will definitely help out when time i reassemble it Den |
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Post by jim63 on Sept 7, 2010 21:21:42 GMT -5
Good luck to you. I was in the same boat with a broken motor. If you go all out and replace the piston be aware they came in different sizes, found this out the hard way. It maybe a Linhai 257cc clone motor but they are all not the same, which can be frustrating. I did like Widehide suggested to you, and just sold it as is. After a few months of back and forth ordering parts, and other things, it just wasn't worth the investment of time and money for me. Plus I had my SYM sitting there ready to ride. My suggestion is if you must fix this bike continue to look for a fully assembled working motor. Whatever you decide good luck to you
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Post by denzj on Sept 7, 2010 22:02:23 GMT -5
Thanks Jim, Yea I'm afraid of getting Some close but some other Chinese similar parts that may not fit.  The Piston and cyl are in good enough shape though the head , Crank and Valves are toast. Well I'm Facing about $450 in parts Which would be fine if i knew this would be all i need and you know it may just be a bad investment also. I was in hope to fix it and Sell it for $1000 Well OK here's a Second Option Is to Discard the 250cc Water cooled And Downgrade to a 150cc Air cooled $300 to $400 Complete New all day long on E-bay and other sites? This was available in 150cc and 250cc I think it will bolt right up and wondering if this is a better option. any thoughts on how much would need to be done? Well could still use it around town. Thanks, Den |
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Post by denzj on Sept 9, 2010 20:42:27 GMT -5
Hey again Dawgs, I was Near my Shed with my Camera Handy so i've Taken a few Shots of My Broken scooter that's been sitting. around for you to see. Scoot in the shed 1 img827.imageshack.us/img827/7283/scooter1.jpgScoot in the shed 2 you can see it's in Mint shape! I even have a Second set of Full body faring's New in Blue that was sent with it. img266.imageshack.us/img266/8382/frontvt.jpgThe engine sitting in the basement img841.imageshack.us/img841/6060/linhaiengine.jpgWell i've found a guy in California that rebuilds these engines and i was quoted $700 + SH&H. Still not economical to repair this just yet Being more than 3/4 the Current Value of the bike. My Best bet would be a good Used engine, If any one near NJ that has one for a reasonable price i would be interested.. Thanks, Dennis |
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Post by Gary on Sept 10, 2010 11:09:32 GMT -5
Dennis -
I think you are right to keep looking for a used engine from a scooter that's been wrecked or whose owner has become frustrated and just wants to get rid of the scoot. I've seen them advertised here for $500. Maybe as the cold weather season approaches more ads will pop up.
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Post by smorkle on Sept 10, 2010 16:36:06 GMT -5
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Post by quicksilver on Sept 10, 2010 18:27:10 GMT -5
You mention that you are in NJ. What part of NJ are you in? I'm wondering if there is something I might help with.
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Post by denzj on Sept 11, 2010 8:27:00 GMT -5
Thanks Smorkle,
I'm On the east coast
It's a Nice reflex Clone! It will be a good buy but I'm wanting to try repair this one with a donor engine for the lowest possible cost and saving to but a name brand bike in the end.
Hello Quicksilver,
I'm located in Union, NJ. Well If you know of any Used Linhai yamaha Clone Engines used or wrecked parts scooters Locally? If so that would be great! ;D
Thanks,
Dennis
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Post by quicksilver on Sept 11, 2010 17:54:17 GMT -5
I'm really not that to far from you but due to a recent accident. I lost use of my left hand. Nothing serious but about a 4 to 6 month recovery. If I had transportation, I would have offered to help possible rebuild the engine.
How do you know that it's the crank and if it is just the crank and no other damage, then it shouldn't be that hard to rebuild the engine.
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Post by denzj on Sept 11, 2010 19:27:17 GMT -5
Hello again Quicksilver, Wow I really Appreciate your Generous offer! Sorry about your hand, I hope you have a Speed Recovery. and your able to ride again! When the Engine failed back in 07 I tore it apart within a few days and Wow it was Worse than i imagined! I had detailed Photos but now lost and the engine was reassembled. I carefully inspected what went wrong i have auto mechanic experience from 10 years ago not expert i found out the cause. the Variator roller area was so densely packed with Grease it was like an Unbalanced load causing severe vibration to the splined shaft that also drives the Timing chain that Severed @ the crank before the timing gear @ around 45 Mph on my trip of 45 miles Just a jerk and pop than shut off well: Being a non Clearance motor the Piston slapped the Valves damaging the head/ Valves crank. Found this site www.powersportsmax.com They seem to have everything that would be needed to get this going again, Though i'm Not sure if it's a good Investment? Mainly no guaranty the parts will be exact being Chinese parts with some inconstancy? 1 Crank Shaft for 250cc Chinese Yamaha Water Cooled CVT Engine $186.99 2Cylinder Head for 250cc Linhai Yamaha Water Cooled Engine $185.99 (Bare none complete) 3Valve Assembly for 250cc Linhai Yamaha Water Cooled Engine $49.95 4Cylinder Gasket for 250cc Linhai Yamaha Water Cooled Engine $22.95 $445.80 Total They have a complete engine $999.00 Being the Scooter is only worth $maybe $1200 it's a lot to put into it Thanks again, |
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Post by denzj on Sept 13, 2010 19:42:06 GMT -5
Well not sure if this OK to do but
I think i will be Looking into another bike And considering unloading this for Best offer to who will come and take it Fix it part it whatever I'm Done with it sadly into it for $1800
1,400 Miles on the clock and Stored in a shed since new on 07.(See Pics Above)
I have reinstalled the engine it was kept in the basement since new along with the tank and carb drained of fuel so no bad carb or rusted tank they are perfect!
Black and have a full Blue metallic body fairing set new never used!
Everything is mint otherwise needs a Linhai or another engine that may fit And it's a 250cc liquid cooled with remote start ETC
This was trouble free unlike many scooter until this problem
Would anyone in the NJ Area be interested here?
many good people here so i thought i will offer it to anyone here
Make a reasonable offer! before E-bay or craigslist
Dennis
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Post by madmanjustice on Sept 13, 2010 22:23:53 GMT -5
check on www.copart.com, i see wrecked china scoots on there from time to time and it looks like you could grab one pretty cheap if they had what you needed. |
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Post by denzj on Sept 14, 2010 19:40:51 GMT -5
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Sugar_Scoot
Junior Dawg
Scoot or get off the pot!
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Post by Sugar_Scoot on Sept 15, 2010 15:27:20 GMT -5
Hi Guys, Just wanted to chime in on the subject of places to buy parts. I've bought parts for my 54b from both motorpartsmax.com and powersportsmax.com. They delivered exactly what I ordered in a reasonable time. The only place that I've had trouble with is roketapartsonline.com. They shipped a cable after (10 days) I cancled the order. And it never got to my house. Out $40 including shipping. You live you learn. LOL
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Post by denzj on Sept 17, 2010 14:43:57 GMT -5
Thanks ladycat34,
I have talked to the guys over @ powersportsmax and they seem to be safe So if i do decide to repair it i will be ordering from them if i can fix it reasonably vs Replacing the motor which is the best bet due to the extent of the damage.
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Post by denzj on Sept 17, 2010 14:49:39 GMT -5
check on www.copart.com, i see wrecked china scoots on there from time to time and it looks like you could grab one pretty cheap if they had what you needed. Madmanjustice, That Burned scooter has the engine i need! Maybe it can be salvaged and swap the covers ETC Just got a little hot.. Even if i scrap it and take it for $200 would be a Bargain. Someone told me that i need to be a Dealer to buy from Copart? Have you bought anything Not sure if they would sell it to me? Thanks, Den |
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Post by denzj on Oct 10, 2010 11:36:08 GMT -5
Update: Still No Engine Bought a Kawasaki Ninja 500r, I've been riding again and loving it! ;D Nice upgrade from the 250cc scooter Now the Busted scooter was moved outside the shed with a cover. I still Would like to Find a Motor for it to have for local runner around town with Storage and convenience to drive in most weather. I have been E-mailing various Scooter parts places in cali Texas ETC with little luck. So if anyone or knows anyone that is parting a jonway, Jmstar or Rocketa that has this Linhai 250 water cooled engine for a reasonable price please Pm me.. Thanks, Den |
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Post by denzj on Oct 15, 2010 16:27:44 GMT -5
Update Have a new engine assy on the way ;D Now all the cheap used engines can come out from hiding now lol I have searched high and low =FAIL JCL in Texas had one for a Reasonable price and will Be looking forward to getting the scoot running again Like a new toy.. I have some hope that some of these Linhai engines hitting 10,000 miles so maybe this will be better.. Will post pics and update when i get it going and thanks for the efforts for all that tried to help.  Den |
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Post by kevinharrell on Oct 15, 2010 19:24:32 GMT -5
Great to know that you have an engine to get the scooter back up and running.
It is just too bad you could not get it really really cheap.
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Post by denzj on Oct 17, 2010 9:16:25 GMT -5
Thanks
Engine in transit to arrive the 20Th! so i should have it running by Saturday if all goes well.
Sure i could possibly Find another complete Scooter that has other minor issues with this engine for several hundred more and fix it
Of coarse I'd would still have this scooter sitting in perfect shape W/O motor. Too good to junk and not good enough to sell so this at least is cheaper than buying another scoot but Now i can use it again ;D
$99 yr insurance too
Den
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