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Post by teknoyd on May 4, 2010 7:54:44 GMT -5
BMS Pallazzo 150 (although I'm sure everyone will follow suite" I say "NEW" because it is basically the Heritage 150, Vintage 150, il Bello, etc., with a new front body piece. Still, pretty cool the way they have incorporated the turn signals at a legal distance apart so they no longer need to be added on the handlebars. Great way to breathe new life into an existing model! - Tek
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Post by tortoise on May 4, 2010 11:01:30 GMT -5
Just curious about the engine servicing aspects of this body style. How many body panels need to be removed to perform a valve adjustment? Is the seat tub easily removed to access the carb?
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Post by teknoyd on May 4, 2010 12:07:19 GMT -5
The seat tub is easily removed with about six bolts/screws. The body panels are kind of a pain, but since I've only owned retros I don't have anything else to compare it to. I just always figured the body panels were the worst part of working on all scooters? I also have this retro: www.scootersus.com/motorinoclassico.htmlwww.scootersus.com/sitebuilder/images/zm-28-2005041904040650717059_1_-289x209.jpgand the under seat tub is held in place by a lip on the body panels, so the body panels have to come off first before you can get the seat tub out, which makes it a pain. Both have a carb access panel that comes out inside the bucket, but then you need tiny hands to actually work on it. - Tek
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Post by kz1000st on May 4, 2010 12:42:18 GMT -5
That's all you have you have to do?? My Milano 150 is basically the same as yours except they sandwiched in a 150cc engine. I have to take off the fenders, the seat, the front panel, the floorboard, the underside plastic and pull the battery. It takes longer to get everything off to get to the valves than it does to check them. About three hours in and out, ten minutes checking and adjusting the little suckers. Maybe this year I'll cut it down to two and a half since this will be my third trip in.
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Post by ancorder on May 4, 2010 15:34:59 GMT -5
I can do valves on my Milano 150 in an hour and a half, total. It definitely gets easier and quicker once you've taken those panels off a few times. (Also helps if you lose some of the screws; less work later!) This reminds me that I need to do an adjustment on them anyway. I'll probably eat my words and take three hours. I like this new style with the turn signals integrated into the front panel. It's also the only scooter I've ever seen that actually looks pretty good in white. Very cool. Too bad about the little 10" tires, though. I'm pretty set on getting at least 12" on my next scoots; both of my current ones have 10" tires, and the terrain around here just doesn't suit them well. I realize that's very dependent on your local roads, of course. I'm not familiar with BMS. I can't recall hearing about this brand on the forums. Can you give us a little background on the company and its previous products? Sorry if it's just me who's in the dark.
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Post by teknoyd on May 4, 2010 17:48:23 GMT -5
That's all you have you have to do?? My Milano 150 is basically the same as yours except they sandwiched in a 150cc engine. I have to take off the fenders, the seat, the front panel, the floorboard, the underside plastic and pull the battery. It takes longer to get everything off to get to the valves than it does to check them. About three hours in and out, ten minutes checking and adjusting the little suckers. Maybe this year I'll cut it down to two and a half since this will be my third trip in. That sounds about right! Ancorder, Boreem Motor Sports is one of the better chinese importers. It is built by Znen. This model is very similar to the il Bello and Vintage. All three have the extra chrome, aluminum panel footboards, upgraded seat, better paint, higher grade nuts and bolts, carb, etc.. That's what is in my signature line, it was my first in 2008 - Tek
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Post by wrenchmonkey on May 4, 2010 19:53:10 GMT -5
Looks nice, much like a Yamahas style in the front. But what’s with the huge gap under the seat hinge? Did they forget to bolt the bucket in?
I'd still rather go with Lances Cali Classic, it's made in Taiwan and much better quality.
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Post by teknoyd on May 4, 2010 23:26:00 GMT -5
Wow. I just checked out the Cali Classic. Very Nice. Made by Sym, so you know it's quality. Looks a lot like the Vintage but with subtle body line curve changes. Also interesting to note that it has a 12 inch front tire but still has a 10 inch rear. Probably would improve handling at higher speeds. I would really miss the rear luggage rack and backrest though. I personally think that adds a lot. - Tek
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