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Post by aaron420e on Feb 19, 2013 23:54:25 GMT -5
just do the pdi, and hope for the best, most here on the forums know what to expect when buying a cheap scoot. +1 |
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Post by lovemy2strokes on Feb 20, 2013 9:35:52 GMT -5
just do the pdi, and hope for the best, most here on the forums know what to expect when buying a cheap scoot. +2 Common sense isnt so common with some people. |
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Post by erictheviking666 on Feb 20, 2013 12:37:35 GMT -5
just do the pdi, and hope for the best, most here on the forums know what to expect when buying a cheap scoot. +2 Common sense isnt so common with some people. +3...I'm sick of people complaining about their Chinese Scooter and blaming it all on China. If you bought a Honda (Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki) straight from the factory in the box, and just unpacked it and rode it....YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS. If you don't want to do a complete PDI yourself, then pay the markup at a B & M dealer and let them do it. Don't order it online and have it shipped to you at half the cost at a dealer, then bitch about it when stuff falls off cause you didn't do a PDI. NO DEALER ANYWHERE will let a vehicle go out the door without a thorough PDI by a certified mechanic. So don't cut corners and then complain when things fail. THE FAULT IS YOURS!!! |
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Post by scootnwinn on Feb 20, 2013 14:17:46 GMT -5
+3...I'm sick of people complaining about their Chinese Scooter and blaming it all on China. If you bought a Honda (Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki) straight from the factory in the box, and just unpacked it and rode it....YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS I can't speak for Yamaha, Kawasaki, or Suzuki but I have uncrated a lot of Hondas and your statement is simply is not true. You put the handlebars right install the battery, check the wheels (and they are almost always right), set the controls to spec, add oil, wash it, and go. Occasionally an idle adjustment is necessary. We never had to tear all the plastics down to the frame on a GoldWing for any reason let alone the Pre Delivery Inspection... |
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Post by prodigit on Feb 20, 2013 14:58:16 GMT -5
I'm not complaining about the chinese products. We know they perform sub par to our standards of QC. I do complain about the company where I ordered them (superiorpowersports), which should have done the PDI.
I pay $69 for a PDI to be done, thus, I expect the PDI to be done when I pay them to do it!
If things are falling out of my bike, it means it's not done.
Then I might as well get the money I paid for the PDI back, don't you think?
But in the end, it's just the exhaust bolts that fell off. I had the same on my BMS 260. So if nothing else rattles off, it's not too bad.
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Post by spandi on Feb 20, 2013 15:48:06 GMT -5
Trust me, a dealers idea of what constitutes a proper PDI and what knowledgable scoot rider would consider one to be are two different things entirely.
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Post by scootnwinn on Feb 20, 2013 16:07:15 GMT -5
Depends on the dealer. How much time have you spent in a motorcycle service department.
Any rider is still always responsible for his own daily safety check of course, starting on day 1
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Post by spandi on Feb 20, 2013 16:16:45 GMT -5
Depends on the dealer. How much time have you spent in a motorcycle service department. Any rider is still always responsible for his own daily safety check of course, starting on day 1 I see your point Sn'W But, we are talking about Chinese scooter dealers are we not? Personally I don't trust anything I have not checked myself. (i don't care what anyone says.) |
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Post by scootnwinn on Feb 20, 2013 17:26:49 GMT -5
Ok with that qualification I completely wholeheartedly agree with you
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Post by prodigit on Feb 20, 2013 18:25:03 GMT -5
Indeed. Still, there's some reluctance to check everything. The basic parts are ok, but like on the BMS, when all screws start vibrating off the plastics, and there are over 200 of them, then the fun is just over. Somewhere, the chinese make the product generally good enough, if one or two screws fall out, there's perhaps some ticking or cracking, or rattling sound, but nothing too bad. Even on jap or USA bikes there's something like this (like when a screw gets loosened and one part is ticking against the other when riding)...
The worst fear is that if it happens to one screw, it can happen to all of them.
But, more than likely, if it happens to one screw, it'll happen to a few others.
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Post by spandi on Feb 20, 2013 19:25:36 GMT -5
That's why you go over the speed nuts in the body panels with silicone caulking, it keeps things from rattling apart.
Regular bolts get blue loctite
Engine/exhaust bolts, Loctite high heat thread locker
(Then the only thing that Shakes rattles and rolls is you.)
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Post by erictheviking666 on Feb 20, 2013 19:38:41 GMT -5
+3...I'm sick of people complaining about their Chinese Scooter and blaming it all on China. If you bought a Honda (Yamaha, Kawasaki, Suzuki) straight from the factory in the box, and just unpacked it and rode it....YOU WOULD HAVE A LOT OF THE SAME PROBLEMS I can't speak for Yamaha, Kawasaki, or Suzuki but I have uncrated a lot of Hondas and your statement is simply is not true. You put the handlebars right install the battery, check the wheels (and they are almost always right), set the controls to spec, add oil, wash it, and go. Occasionally an idle adjustment is necessary. We never had to tear all the plastics down to the frame on a GoldWing for any reason let alone the Pre Delivery Inspection... You may be right about that. My experience with Honda dates back to the early 80's, so things may have definitely changed since then. |
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 20, 2013 19:39:18 GMT -5
That's why you go over the speed nuts in the body panels with silicone caulking, it keeps things from rattling apart. Regular bolts get blue loctite Engine/exhaust bolts, Loctite high heat thread locker (Then the only thing that Shakes rattles and rolls is you.) Hi Sage advice my friend  And heres something just for you  ;D Do enjoy Take care and ride safely Yours Hank |
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Post by spandi on Feb 20, 2013 20:34:55 GMT -5
Thanks Hank.  |
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