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Post by EPAhater on Feb 5, 2013 17:17:25 GMT -5
NO your system is DC the only thing that runs off of Ac which is actually rectified to DC is the headlight bulbs.
All standard 12VDc LED's will work.
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Post by scootnwinn on Feb 5, 2013 20:42:01 GMT -5
They should already be dc even if your headlight isn't
Ah page 2 beat me to it
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 5, 2013 21:49:54 GMT -5
leds will light with acv so it makes no difference .
sometimes you have to turn them around .
John
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Post by pazzo on Feb 5, 2013 22:01:53 GMT -5
This is great info! I'll check my bulb types and stator/rectifier wiring as soon as I can.
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Post by JR on Feb 6, 2013 7:20:55 GMT -5
If you want a complete wiring diagram PM me.
JR
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Post by pazzo on Feb 6, 2013 10:48:23 GMT -5
You can also take a look at your R/R and see how many wires it has and the COLOR of the wires. Or better yet take pictures of the wires from the STATOR and the R/R and you will not have to take the flywheel off. Sam The stator has 7 wires. 3 yellow, 1 white, 1 green, 1 red/white, and 1 red/yellow.
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Post by pazzo on Feb 6, 2013 10:52:27 GMT -5
Change all your other lights on the scoot to LEDS they take less wattage so you get some left over and that will handle a little brighter headlight bulb. Get LEDS for your Taillights, Turn Signals and Instrument panel. Take one bulb from each and get the number off of it, then you can google for LEDS they have a ton of them. The thing you just have to watch out for is the LENGTH some are longer than others and may hit the outside lens. But you can put the numbers on here and maybe pictures to see what type of bulbs you have and we can find you some. Sam My headlight bulb is 25/25w 12v It has 2SZ printed on it. I'll have to wait untill my back pain quiets down a little before I check the other bulbs. If I can figure out how to get to them!
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Post by pazzo on Feb 6, 2013 15:01:20 GMT -5
You can also take a look at your R/R and see how many wires it has and the COLOR of the wires. Or better yet take pictures of the wires from the STATOR and the R/R and you will not have to take the flywheel off. Sam The rectifier has 2 plugs. One with 3 wires-Green, black/red,and red/white. The other plug is 2 wire-red/black, and green/white.
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Post by JR on Feb 6, 2013 19:41:59 GMT -5
You can also take a look at your R/R and see how many wires it has and the COLOR of the wires. Or better yet take pictures of the wires from the STATOR and the R/R and you will not have to take the flywheel off. Sam The stator has 7 wires. 3 yellow, 1 white, 1 green, 1 red/white, and 1 red/yellow. 3 yellows = 3-phase AC feeds to R/R green = ground white = auto-choke feed red/white = AC feed to CDI red/yellow= pick up or pulse coil to CDI This is a 3-phase system and is either a 11 or 12-coil stator. Does this scooter have 16' wheels?
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Post by JR on Feb 6, 2013 19:44:05 GMT -5
You can also take a look at your R/R and see how many wires it has and the COLOR of the wires. Or better yet take pictures of the wires from the STATOR and the R/R and you will not have to take the flywheel off. Sam The rectifier has 2 plugs. One with 3 wires-Green, black/red,and red/white. The other plug is 2 wire-red/black, and green/white. Never seen a R/R with this color wires? Picture please. JR
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Post by pazzo on Feb 6, 2013 20:20:09 GMT -5
The rectifier has 2 plugs. One with 3 wires-Green, black/red,and red/white. The other plug is 2 wire-red/black, and green/white. Never seen a R/R with this color wires? Picture please. I made a mistake. I think that is my CDI. I can't seem to find my R/R. Could it be under the front cover with my headlight?
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Post by JR on Feb 6, 2013 21:00:44 GMT -5
The rectifier has 2 plugs. One with 3 wires-Green, black/red,and red/white. The other plug is 2 wire-red/black, and green/white. Never seen a R/R with this color wires? Picture please. I made a mistake. I think that is my CDI. I can't seem to find my R/R. Could it be under the front cover with my headlight? This is what I thought but wanted you to look again. The R/R will probably be on the right side up under the back side panel. Sometimes one has to get some of the plastic off to find thing. JR
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Post by pazzo on Feb 6, 2013 21:25:55 GMT -5
I have traced the wires in the rear and under the seat, but I can't find anything that looks like a rectifier. But while I was checking my headlight bulb, under the front cover near the headlight, I saw a small metal box with what appeared to be radiating cooling fins. Could this be the R/R?
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Post by yosemite on Feb 6, 2013 21:29:52 GMT -5
For your headlight you should be able to get a 35W since you already have an 11 or 12 pole stator. The problems come in when the scoot has 6 or an 8 pole stator. Sam
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 6, 2013 21:41:59 GMT -5
pazzo , take a pic and post it here or send it to me in a pic text my number is in my signature . Sounds like 11pole stator , tell us about your scooter . Any information would be helpfull .
John
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Post by JR on Feb 6, 2013 21:49:04 GMT -5
I have traced the wires in the rear and under the seat, but I can't find anything that looks like a rectifier. But while I was checking my headlight bulb, under the front cover near the headlight, I saw a small metal box with what appeared to be radiating cooling fins. Could this be the R/R? Probably and some scooters do put it up front. It's not necessary to find it if your scooter is charging fine and such other than to just know which it is either a 6-wire or 7 wire type. Since you told me the wire colors from the engine I already know you have a 3-phase stator and you can put in a higher wattage bulb. Like I said a 45 to 50W will do fine, make sure it isn't too hot and the lens is doing fine after you put it in. I know you said Jonway 150 but can you be more specific? As a model number? Single headlight? Is this it? www.advantiauto.com/inventory/view/5277611/2012-Jonway-MC17%20KJR
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Post by pazzo on Feb 6, 2013 22:12:32 GMT -5
On the side of the scooter it says YY150T-12. On the web site where I bought it it say MC-D74Y. I have attachted a pic.
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Post by pazzo on Feb 6, 2013 22:14:50 GMT -5
I see that the picture didn't show up on my last post. I guess I don't know how to attach it.
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Post by yosemite on Feb 6, 2013 23:25:11 GMT -5
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Post by pazzo on Feb 6, 2013 23:28:30 GMT -5
Yes, that's it!
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Post by pazzo on Feb 8, 2013 17:23:39 GMT -5
I appears that I have made a BIG mistake in discribing mrony stator wires. I seem to have been looking at the wrong end of the wires that are bundled together. This time I started at the stator and found that there are only 5 wires. Red,Yellow,Green, Blue/White, and Red/Black. Also the box under the headlight cowling that I think is the R/R has 4 wires. Yellow,Green,Red, and White.I apoligize for the wrong info before, but I'm working in a COLD garage and was trying to hurry. I guess the only way to know for sure is to pull the flywheel. My puller has arrived so I should be able to do/ that. If I do have to upgrade to an 11 pole stator will I also have to order a DC CDI? And where would be a good place to get the stator and R/R?
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Post by JR on Feb 8, 2013 17:58:41 GMT -5
Nope. Now that you have confirmed what I thought all along you have the typical 4-wire R/R and more than likely you have a 8-pole stator. Again with only one headlight bulb and cutting the excess watt load by changing to LED's you can run a brighter head light bulb with no problem and a 11-pole stator is a waste of time. Your R/R will look like one of these 4-pin type: No you will use the same AC type CDI and you will have to buy a 7-pin R/R plus a relay for the headlights. If you're not an electrical man then the upgrade may present a challenge. 7-pin R/R We have a complete step by step how to with pictures on the 11-pole upgrade at our site just click on the owl to get the directions. JR
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Post by pazzo on Feb 8, 2013 18:03:35 GMT -5
I would like to change my light to LED. Do you know of a good source? Would I have to change my turn signals or just my instrument and tail/brake lights?
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Post by JR on Feb 8, 2013 18:19:29 GMT -5
I would like to change my light to LED. Do you know of a good source? Would I have to change my turn signals or just my instrument and tail/brake lights? You cannot change the headlight to a LED bulb but you can get a higher wattage brighter one and yes the tail/brake lights bulbs pull a lot of wattage and need to be changed. Check your PM. JR
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Post by tvnacman on Feb 8, 2013 19:29:20 GMT -5
I have the parts you need , again your welcome to call .
John
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Post by h3nry on Feb 8, 2013 23:31:43 GMT -5
There are LEDs that would fit and function correctly on the scoot but they would have to be customly fabbed and would NOT be dot approved. I was dealing with this a while ago, have the led still (its ~30v and runs great on AC voltage even tho it is DC. Don't say it... I know the issues with doing this, I've been playing with leds for a long time)
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Post by JR on Feb 9, 2013 10:15:04 GMT -5
There are LEDs that would fit and function correctly on the scoot but they would have to be customly fabbed and would NOT be dot approved. I was dealing with this a while ago, have the led still (its ~30v and runs great on AC voltage even tho it is DC. Don't say it... I know the issues with doing this, I've been playing with leds for a long time) Standard LED's will work on every bulb in the scooter except the headlight bulbs. No need to have any made for AC as all the standard bulbs in the scooter do not run off of AC, the R/R converts it to a half wave DC. There are lots of head light bulbs that are a lot brighter that are plug and play. This bulb would work fine if he has the standard BA20d socket: www.ebay.com/itm/HEADLIGHT-BULB-12V-50-50-WATT-BA20d-SUPER-BRIGHT-XENON-STYLE-GY6-CHINESE-SCOOTER-/121039835943?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item1c2e895327&vxp=mtrJR
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Post by pazzo on Feb 9, 2013 14:41:42 GMT -5
I do have the BA20d socket. Thanks.
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