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Post by gy6mods on Jan 9, 2013 12:21:02 GMT -5
I am hoping someone here can recommend a company to order from online for a no minimum order wholesale price dealer. Now, I know it won't be actual wholesale, since I am looking to buy 1 or 2 at a time and probably do that 2 times a month. From researching and working on the chinese scooters, seems they pretty much all have their engines come from the same place, so there is not much difference in brand. Needs to be low price, since I will be modifying the scooters and need to keep the price low. I have wholesale accounts setup for parts, so dealer followup is not a big issue to me. My main concerns are:
1) Paperwork will allow for registering in state of Florida
2) Quick shipment from time ordered
3) Scooter should run after assembly and PDI without needing a bunch of new parts
If you happen to know a company, please let me know. If I posted this in the wrong section, please let me know so I can modify as needed. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.
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Post by Scooter Elements on Jan 9, 2013 12:23:41 GMT -5
If you are a business and have a business license i offer wholesale prices on my GY6 150cc parts. Others that offer parts as long as you have a business license is www.partsforscooters.com, scrappydogscooters.com edit: for actual scooters there are a bunch but like the person posted below you must be far enough away from other dealers. just about everybody has that rule |
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Post by jdikov on Jan 9, 2013 12:34:52 GMT -5
We import scooters made by the ZNEN factory and have dealers all over the east coast and as far out as New Mexico. However, the ZNEN scoots are more expensive than the lower quality ones like Peace and Tao Tao. ALso you would have to be far enough away form our established dealers in order to qualify. You can give me a call if it sounds good.
John
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Post by mainepeace on Jan 9, 2013 13:52:02 GMT -5
You can also try Bintelli and Gorilla Motor Works.
Greg
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Post by rickmain on Jan 9, 2013 16:22:46 GMT -5
Keep in mind that not all scooters, engines, or parts are all the same in quality.
They don't all come from the same place, and they all sell different "grades", even from the same source. We carry 1200 distinct parts, but they come from 57 different factories, mainly in the Zhejiang province between Jinhua and Ningbo, which is considered the capital of the world in motorcycle production, and is good quality.
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Post by fugaziiv on Jan 9, 2013 16:46:40 GMT -5
Also something to be aware of is that even with a very common engine architecture such as the GY6 150, many of the different factories that make the parts and whole scooters are developing variations that set theirs apart from their competition. The common part interchange rule is slowly getting "murkier" if you will.
The higher quality builds out of China (such as ZNEN) are exhibiting this trend on an increasing basis.
Bintelli and GMW are both Florida based, but both have a set of dealer requirements that you would have to meet, such as your B&M location with signage and whatnot. This being said, both brands are of acceptable quality, although their business models are rather different.
Matt
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Post by tortoise on Jan 9, 2013 17:06:38 GMT -5
Bintelli and GMW are both Florida based At least Gorilla Motor Works established a "unique" brand name . . as compared to the ethically-challenged Bintelli and Benelli similarity. |
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Post by rickmain on Jan 9, 2013 18:05:36 GMT -5
Good point Matt. Zhen, Sym, the QJ Quinjiang group (Vento, Keeway, Yamati, Strada, Benelli), and Bengnang all have their very own variations, just enough to make the parts business slightly annoying at times  They often have a two letter prefix on the engine code, but not always. I think for such a low volume that scooterdepot.us might be the most feasible. They seem to sell to anyone, anywhere, anytime. Their kinda like a "wholesale direct to the public" operation. |
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Post by teddy554 on Jan 9, 2013 19:20:42 GMT -5
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Post by gy6mods on Jan 9, 2013 23:54:54 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. I re read my post and I realized I was not clear. I am not looking to be a scooter dealer or sell parts to the public. I already established a place to buy wholesale parts from for my repair business. I do have a business license and resale tax id, but what I am looking for was a place that sold low cost new 50cc and 150cc scooters so I could purchase one or two at a time, upgrade the parts and customize the scooter, then sell it that way. I have been working with used scooters, and wanted to see if it was cost effective to try it with new models, mainly the Ruckus clones for customizing and other models for performance upgrades. Hope that makes sense. I just feel at this time, trying to be a dealer is not as profitable as repair, upgrades and customizing. Thanks again to everyone for your replies.
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Post by rickmain on Jan 9, 2013 23:59:52 GMT -5
scooterdepot.us
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Post by gy6mods on Jan 10, 2013 0:05:16 GMT -5
Thanks. I had looked at them and read alot of bad reviews about not getting the scooter, arriving damaged, not getting the paperwork, etc. However, some of those Reviews were pre 2010, so maybe they have improved. Thanks for the information. |
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Post by mainepeace on Jan 10, 2013 0:48:06 GMT -5
You can buy direct from Peace Sports, Tao Tao, Roketa, SunL, even at 1 -2 per.
Greg
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Post by rickmain on Jan 10, 2013 5:38:12 GMT -5
In any business where it's possible for anyone to leave feedback on a business as easily as it is online these days, especially the cheap chinese scooter business, there will be negative reviews somewhere.
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Post by teddy554 on Jan 10, 2013 7:44:47 GMT -5
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Post by rickmain on Jan 10, 2013 11:46:03 GMT -5
To buy from China your going to have what is called an MOQ, which means a minimum order quantity. For scooters, that means at least a sea container load, although they will tell you up front that the MOQ is only one, besides, shipping just one scooter from china will amount to more than you paid for the bike. Factories over there only accept direct wire transfers in cash in full. This means you're sending your money, and alot of it, to someone you really don't know, and have no recourse if they skip out, or just simply go out of business, which happens alot over there. If they come through, you are looking at a 1-2 month turnaround before they are even put on a ship to go to your local port. Along the way, you'll have to arrange customer brokerage, along with the DOT requirements and hope department of homeland security doesn't tag your container for "random" inspection. They are notorious for tagging new companies, and have no qualms about seizing your inventory for "public security". If you make it through all that, you will then have to arrange inland freight forwarding to your business location, as you're not going to be able to strap a 40 ft sea container on your pickup truck.
All said and done, you'll open your container and may or may not be happy with what's in there. Either way, you have no recourse, as you're not going to be able to do anything about it. You're stuck with what you have...period.
We've considered importing complete scooters in the past, but there is alot of liability, and not to mention the paperwork involved, bonding, licensing, etc. Most of all is the risk. It's very common to have scooter containers seized, or held up for months, even a year! After it's all done, you come to realize there are plenty of importers already established here, and maybe saving 50 bucks a unit just doesn't make much sense.
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Post by Cookees on Jan 10, 2013 20:26:25 GMT -5
Your best bets would be either Peace or Sunny, which most consider to be third tier. Since Peace ships out of Dallas vs Sunny shipping out of LA...I'd go with Peace.
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Post by fugaziiv on Jan 10, 2013 22:10:42 GMT -5
I pretty much think rickmain is dead on accurate in this discussion. Listen to him.
Matt
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Post by prodigit on Jan 10, 2013 22:21:39 GMT -5
Alibaba, but you usually you need a lot of at least 30, to make some sort of profit out of it.
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Post by mainepeace on Jan 11, 2013 15:21:02 GMT -5
I've never had a single company off Alibaba even respond to my emails.
I seriously looked at buying a few containers of scooters last summer. As rickmain stated, the headaches are not worth the effort, especially as I have to have the container shipped about the furthest anyone in the U.S. possibly can. I don't have any sweet handshake deals with cross country shippers so I have to pay full retail to ship the container, which ends up being almost as much as getting them shipped individually from L.A.
Maybe next year I'll have enough product moving to make it worthwhile.
Greg
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Jan 11, 2013 16:30:12 GMT -5
I've never had a single company off Alibaba even respond to my emails. I seriously looked at buying a few containers of scooters last summer. As rickmain stated, the headaches are not worth the effort, especially as I have to have the container shipped about the furthest anyone in the U.S. possibly can. I don't have any sweet handshake deals with cross country shippers so I have to pay full retail to ship the container, which ends up being almost as much as getting them shipped individually from L.A. Maybe next year I'll have enough product moving to make it worthwhile. Greg Greg, we'd still love to add you to the Bintelli family for 2013! |
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Post by Carolina Fun Machines on Jan 11, 2013 20:19:14 GMT -5
Call David at Redstreak Motors, they ship Znen out of Charleston, SC 888-260-5418.
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Post by carasdad on Jan 11, 2013 21:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by jdikov on Jan 12, 2013 20:06:26 GMT -5
Great feedback. I would not buy direct from China when buying 1 or 2 scoots. Too risky and probably pay more than buying right here at home.
I think Gorilla and Bintelli are the same company, Gorilla being the old name.
Do not trust scooter depot- reviews speak volumes.
We sell scooter parts wholesale to our dealers and you do not have to sell our scoots in order to buy parts wholesale. Our parts prices are probably close to the leeast expensive in the US and we are not far from you. Brunswick GA. Scoots ship out of Jacksonville and are all ZNENs.
Give a call and we can talk, be happy to start another repair shop in the FL area.
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Jan 12, 2013 21:41:28 GMT -5
Great feedback. I would not buy direct from China when buying 1 or 2 scoots. Too risky and probably pay more than buying right here at home. I think Gorilla and Bintelli are the same company, Gorilla being the old name. Do not trust scooter depot- reviews speak volumes. We sell scooter parts wholesale to our dealers and you do not have to sell our scoots in order to buy parts wholesale. Our parts prices are probably close to the leeast expensive in the US and we are not far from you. Brunswick GA. Scoots ship out of Jacksonville and are all ZNENs. Give a call and we can talk, be happy to start another repair shop in the FL area. John, we are not the same company as Gorilla. Not affiliated in the least! |
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Post by jdikov on Jan 15, 2013 16:36:24 GMT -5
Why was I thinking that? Thanks for clearing that up. Maybe Linda gave me that impression go figure.
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Post by radcliff on Jan 15, 2013 19:46:46 GMT -5
Hey....Purchase a high end scooter with a reputable name. The trouble free, peace of mind ride you will experience will be worth the wait.
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Post by prodigit on Jan 15, 2013 19:58:05 GMT -5
I've had a reply on alibaba, back in the days when I requested a price for some saxophones.
Quite quickly too.
I wonder if credit card companies don't secure you against deals like these (in case they go sour).
More than likely they will. Out of a 30 lot, you might get from 5 to 20 good ones, and at least 10 bad ones.
If you're a small mechanic, it's ok, you'd probably be able to fix 25-28 bikes out of 30, but still have around 2 non-working bikes available, that China won't receive back, nor refund you for..
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Post by scootnwinn on Jan 16, 2013 10:53:33 GMT -5
...If you're a small mechanic, it's ok, you'd probably be able to fix 25-28 bikes out of 30... I love these posts What if your a large mechanic could you fix more or less?? Sorry digit it was asking for it... |
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Post by jdikov on Jan 18, 2013 13:56:47 GMT -5
Too bad Andre the Giant is no longer with us. He could fix a lot of scooters!
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They often have a two letter prefix on the engine code, but not always.
