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Post by Cookees on Jul 15, 2012 20:41:23 GMT -5
I'd like some feedback.
Does anyone have any experience with any of the Jonway 2 Strokes that you'd care to share?
YY50QT-6A/2T 2 Stroke
Thanks
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 15, 2012 21:18:22 GMT -5
I have one its great and flies . I just got a MP pipe but have to get shorter screws and make an adjustment and rejet before I can test it . The engine is very nice and its so much fun to pass 4T scooters and cars on the road .
I strongly suggest a 2T over a 4T anyday
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Post by macktheknife on Jul 15, 2012 23:54:51 GMT -5
YY50QT-6(2 Stroke) Dry weight: 84kg Wheel base: 1195mm Exterior size: 1660*680*1070mm Maximum speed: 70km/h Maximum payload mass: 70kg Fuel capacity: 4.40L Brake type: F: Disk, R: Disk Engine type: 2 stroke, single cylinder, air cool Maximum power: 3.0kw/8000r/min Starting system: Electric/Kick Tyre size: 3.50-10; 3.50-10 Battery voltage: 12V/7AH 70km/h = 43.5 mph  The engine is very nice and its so much fun to pass 4T scooters and cars on the road .You must be talking about that E-charm right? ;D ;D |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 15, 2012 23:58:27 GMT -5
Both my 2T has 130/60/13s instead of the little tens and is fast to be a stock engine with minor tweaks . I just got a 72cc pipe and BBK but only have the pipe on as I am waiting to upgrade the CVT and get a new Bando Kevlar before putting on the BBK .
The Echarm I rocket away from the green light and pass cars on the interstate as it will wind up to 75 MPH . The 2T passes cars on slower speed roads but it can keep up sorta on the highway .
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 0:06:09 GMT -5
It can bury the 50 MPH speedo and radar tests showed its 46 MPH when it says 50 MPH . I also have a 19mm TK carb where most have a smaller 17.5mm carb and I have a sporty pipe even though its restricted and now have a MMG from PM Tuning pipe and it sounds like a small MX bike
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 0:07:01 GMT -5
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Post by macktheknife on Jul 16, 2012 0:38:03 GMT -5
None of them will outrun my car or scooter, not even your E-charm and I'm sure when he asked about the Jonway 2T he was refering to the stock scooter he's thinking about drop shipping to people. After all got to have something to sell after CfMoto quit half their scooter line. I have one its great and flies . You have a YY50QT-6A/2T 2 Stroke with 13" wheels? May I enquire as to where you bought it? link please. but it can keep up sorta on the highway . My S-10 pickup will keep up sorta with a semi to about 4th gear. ;D ;D |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 1:21:27 GMT -5
Sure any car can outrun a scooter no doubt , but I am just saying I pass and keep up with most on my 2T and most do not drive faster than 75 on the road . I buy all my scooters here www.premierscootersgreenvillesc.com/ it is not listed as there website is old and they expanded their Keeway line and Jonway selection along with many other brands . Closed on mondays |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 1:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 1:25:19 GMT -5
Premier does have a blue Magnum just like mine except I do not have the " Turbo Charged " stickers
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Post by derbi on Jul 16, 2012 7:48:41 GMT -5
None of them will outrun my car or scooter, not even your E-charm and I'm sure when he asked about the Jonway 2T he was refering to the stock scooter he's thinking about drop shipping to people. After all got to have something to sell after CfMoto quit half their scooter line. I have one its great and flies . You have a YY50QT-6A/2T 2 Stroke with 13" wheels? May I enquire as to where you bought it? link please. but it can keep up sorta on the highway . My S-10 pickup will keep up sorta with a semi to about 4th gear. ;D ;D Would like to find out what type of scooter you have? sounds fast |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 8:52:40 GMT -5
Jonway Magnum its fast for a 49cc and much lighter than my old TaoTao by 65 lbs and is very stable and safe to ride , in fact I can ride with no hands even in a curve
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Post by derbi on Jul 16, 2012 9:17:33 GMT -5
Jonway Magnum its fast for a 49cc and much lighter than my old TaoTao by 65 lbs and is very stable and safe to ride , in fact I can ride with no hands even in a curve Thanks, but i was asking Mack what scooter he rides? he describes it as very fast |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 9:20:31 GMT -5
If you reread he was talking about mine
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Post by derbi on Jul 16, 2012 9:35:23 GMT -5
If you reread he was talking about mine Maybe so ,but im asking about his scooter he mentions in this statement in his last posting "None of them will outrun my car or scooter, not even your E-charm" |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 10:08:42 GMT -5
I pass cars on the road with ease and yes they were not going at their top speed . So what scooter do you have .
Jonway makes a great 2T
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Post by Cookees on Jul 16, 2012 10:24:45 GMT -5
None of them will outrun my car or scooter, not even your E-charm and I'm sure when he asked about the Jonway 2T he was refering to the stock scooter he's thinking about drop shipping to people. After all got to have something to sell after CfMoto quit half their scooter line. I have one its great and flies . You have a YY50QT-6A/2T 2 Stroke with 13" wheels? May I enquire as to where you bought it? link please. but it can keep up sorta on the highway . My S-10 pickup will keep up sorta with a semi to about 4th gear. ;D ;D Mack... you're partially correct. I brought in the SYM line to replace the decimated CFMoto line up. I have been averaging only 2-3 50cc scoots a year due primarily to the abundance of hills here in Western Pennsylvania. This year I've sold 4 Puma 50's and that got me to thinking I might have more success with a 2 stroke. I'm just somewhat suspect of the Jonway quality. Hence the question. |
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Post by derbi on Jul 16, 2012 10:26:08 GMT -5
I pass cars on the road with ease and yes they were not going at their top speed . So what scooter do you have . Jonway makes a great 2T I own a 2011 Honda PCX and 2009 Shadow Spirit C2 |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 11:00:20 GMT -5
I have a Jonway Rock Thunder Gy6 . I rode one home from the dealer for a friend . It is so good I pulled over and ordered me one
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Post by macktheknife on Jul 16, 2012 11:32:22 GMT -5
If you reread he was talking about mine Maybe so ,but im asking about his scooter he mentions in this statement in his last posting "None of them will outrun my car or scooter, not even your E-charm" MC-54-250B own 3 of them. Sliders, upjetted and it's a linhai over 10k on two of them and still cruising along.  |
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Post by derbi on Jul 16, 2012 11:54:47 GMT -5
Maybe so ,but im asking about his scooter he mentions in this statement in his last posting "None of them will outrun my car or scooter, not even your E-charm" MC-54-250B own 3 of them. Sliders, upjetted and it's a linhai over 10k on two of them and still cruising along. Thank you, and congratulations sounds like a wonderful scooter |
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Post by macktheknife on Jul 16, 2012 14:29:19 GMT -5
None of them will outrun my car or scooter, not even your E-charm and I'm sure when he asked about the Jonway 2T he was refering to the stock scooter he's thinking about drop shipping to people. After all got to have something to sell after CfMoto quit half their scooter line. I have one its great and flies . You have a YY50QT-6A/2T 2 Stroke with 13" wheels? May I enquire as to where you bought it? link please. but it can keep up sorta on the highway . My S-10 pickup will keep up sorta with a semi to about 4th gear. ;D ;D Mack... you're partially correct. I brought in the SYM line to replace the decimated CFMoto line up. I have been averaging only 2-3 50cc scoots a year due primarily to the abundance of hills here in Western Pennsylvania. This year I've sold 4 Puma 50's and that got me to thinking I might have more success with a 2 stroke. I'm just somewhat suspect of the Jonway quality. Hence the question. So you want a 2T so people can go up the hills better  Sounds like you don't want your cuctomers to have a long term type engine? While 2 strokers can pull weel because of the higher RPM's it just adds that much more stress to a already stressed type engine. Higher RPM's more load equals short term engine. Also with all the ways this forum and other places teach and talk you don't think you can do a simple CVT upgrade while doing your PDI to make the 4T scooter more hill friendly? Heck could even advertize such and add an extra $100, no big deal. The 4T engine properly set up will pull the hills just fine and if properly maintained will be running when the 2 strokers are rebuliding their engine or getting another one. Also with a the regulations and the almighty EPA the day of the two stroker is numbered so why sell something that in the long term is going to disappear? It wouldn't be a big surprize if Pennsylvania soon became the next California and just another headache to sell anything with a engine. Pulling the hills no big deal, got a cheap 50cc 4T scooter that pulls the hills just fine. BTW why the desire to sell a cheap brand you know nothing about instead of just investing in a high price name brand 50cc? You sell high price Cfmoto so why the change of heart? |
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Post by teddy554 on Jul 16, 2012 15:39:12 GMT -5
How many threads you see about the 139qmb wont start or quite running out of no where help please compare them to the 2t threads like that, its almost 5 to 1 difference I have several 2t and a 4t yes 4t do last longer but the 4t of mine have been worked on more then the 2t i own and on my vento had over 7000 miles when i install a big bore kit on it and still have the stock piston and cylinder for back up. With the stock parts on my 2t a 4t 85cc kit couldnt keep up. The 2t are not has bad has people think and you get plenty off power and easier to work on, harder to tone. Imo the johnway brand is a top of the line Chinese scoot and never heard much complaints against them and the are some of the best looking ones. 2t are a dyeing bred in the usa because of tougher regulations
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Post by derbi on Jul 16, 2012 15:53:32 GMT -5
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Post by macktheknife on Jul 16, 2012 16:39:58 GMT -5
How many threads you see about the 139qmb wont start or quite running out of no where help please compare them to the 2t threads like that, its almost 5 to 1 difference I have several 2t and a 4t yes 4t do last longer but the 4t of mine have been worked on more then the 2t i own and on my vento had over 7000 miles when i install a big bore kit on it and still have the stock piston and cylinder for back up. With the stock parts on my 2t a 4t 85cc kit couldnt keep up. The 2t are not has bad has people think and you get plenty off power and easier to work on, harder to tone. Imo the johnway brand is a top of the line Chinese scoot and never heard much complaints against them and the are some of the best looking ones. 2t are a dyeing bred in the usa because of tougher regulations Not alwasy a matter of keeping up? A 4T works half as hard to get the same speed and he said hills. Now in the hills where I do live the 2T will not climb near as well with the same weight and same hill. Even though you can hit it to 12k and take off like a rocket it doesn't have the torque. If you gear it to pull the hills you lose the RPM so it's not a rocket any more. On the other hand the 4T doing half the work can be geared to pull the hiolls and keep some of the top end and still be running when the 2T has worked itself to death. Racing hauling butt, less work, easy to work on, all fun and 2T is the answer. Longevity, reliability, easier to tune for all enviroments and conditions 4T hass proved it's better. Dying breed is 2T and it'll be missed. Jonway, JCL, Roketa all on the same line IMO. They all can be good with good PDI which most dealers don't do. I'll still ask why not go to top of the line scooter to go with the ones already being sold? Maybe customers like cheaper? |
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 16:51:43 GMT -5
Well a 4T has more torque yes , but my 2T I go up hills faster than my old 4T with a 50MM BBK . Its geared low and takes off pretty quick and I live below mountains in an area called " The Foothills " and we have some megahills that are like a roller coaster ride and some skeery as well lol . Yes I know its spelled in slang
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Post by derbi on Jul 16, 2012 17:02:29 GMT -5
Hate to disagree but per cubic inch a 2 stroke will make always make more torque than an 4 stroke, been a motocross rider and mechanic for many years.
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 16, 2012 17:06:11 GMT -5
2T has to have rpms up but once there outdo a 4T . 3 out of the 49cc scooters I had were 2T . A Honda Elite the first , hot rod Spree that previous owner did , last year my first China scooter a TaoTao ATMa 50 AKA POS and I hated it . The 4th is my Magnum its pure bliss to ride
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Post by wile on Jul 16, 2012 18:07:11 GMT -5
I think you guys are compareing apples to oranges, A 4t does not need high rpms to pull some weight, while on the other hand 2ts to pull the same weight need really high rpms. And that is because they make their power at really high rpms.
Now I am sure you all will agree if your a halfway descent mechanic that running high rpms on ANY little motor is a killer. If you do not know that then you really do not know motors. Running high rpms all the time you will be rebuilding the 2t more frequently than a 4t.
So you can take a 4t and a 2t and run them up the same hills and the outcome will be the 2t will putter out first.
Wile
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Post by Cookees on Jul 17, 2012 0:42:41 GMT -5
Mack,
You bring up some very valid points. I don't necessarily want to go cheaper, in perceived value or price. I believe the main reason my customers ask about a 50cc is the licensing. In PA, 50cc needs only a valid drivers license. Anything bigger needs a motorcycle endorsement.
I must admit, I've never ridden a modern 2T. Jonway solicited us and I noticed their 2T was considerably cheaper than I'd expected, and that's what got this whole notion started.
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