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Post by rapidjim on Mar 15, 2012 9:37:36 GMT -5
Ice Bear is out of 300 Magnums. The factory is doing an extensive upgrade. The new Magnums should be available in late April. No news yet whether or not there will be a price increase.
Only way to get a Magnum now is from a dealer who has left over inventory from last year.
Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by ustacould on Mar 15, 2012 12:35:19 GMT -5
Jim, they sure don't make it easy for you to make a living, do they.
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Post by rapidjim on Mar 16, 2012 7:57:36 GMT -5
I have missed a few sales due to this but, if it makes a better product I am all for it.
Jim
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Post by rapidjim on Apr 3, 2012 8:56:26 GMT -5
Update.
I just talked to my rep at Ice Bear late yesterday and the release of the new model and the Magnum has been pushed back to sometime in May. The owner of the US Distributorship (Pacific Rim, Ca.) if flying out to China mostlikely this week to look at and test ride them to make sure they have gotten the bugs out before he will Import any more 300's. To me that says a lot about him and the way he does business. I have had emails with him in the past and seems to be a very straight up guy.
Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by daddue11 on Apr 4, 2012 12:10:10 GMT -5
Well, You know there is an easier way to do it. I will volunteer my services and take his place in china and give my best evaluation of the newest line of 300s,then it would be an honest and nuetral evaluation and the big boss could be back at home handling the buisiness stateside and all the company would be out is a couple of plane tickets and a few meals. There will be however just a few complimentary perks that I must ask for in advance,but, those will be just formalities. ;D ;D So...just give me a call,say around sixish tonight and I can start packing.
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Post by ustacould on Apr 4, 2012 12:17:15 GMT -5
D‰^äo“ß translation "good luck with that"
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Post by ustacould on Apr 4, 2012 12:22:15 GMT -5
Sorry about that it was supposed to the Chiness cuneiform but it didn't crossover .
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Post by daddue11 on Apr 4, 2012 15:01:07 GMT -5
Yeah,I didn't think so either,but,it was worth a try.
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Post by rapidjim on Apr 30, 2012 16:12:56 GMT -5
Update
Here is the information I got today from Ice Bear.
The owner did get to ride one of the modified Magnums and said the ride is better and the vibration has been cut down quite a bit. However, Because of being a single cylinder engine there is still going to be a vibration at an idle. That is just the nature of the beast.
1. The frame design is different. It's more complicated than before, 2-3 times more complicated. The purpose is to minimum vibration.
2. They added more cushion on the bike. But he didn't specify where. Assuming the seat.
3. They used the dual exhaust system. According to them, it helped greatly with the vibration. However, we're confirming on our end to see if EPA is going to be ok with this design change. This is a working one into two design, not a "Dummy" dual exhaust.
The next shipment of 300cc will be the Magnums. I don't have the ETA yet. Manufacturer needs more time to upgrade the Tornado and Compeller.
Still do not know if there will be a price increase either. Plus the EPA has to approve the exhaust design.
More as it becomes available.
Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by rapidjim on Jun 27, 2012 8:06:05 GMT -5
Update!
The EPA has passed the new upgraded Magnum!
Ice Bear (China) is now in the process of getting and installing the Emission Data Plates and Safety Data Plates.
ETA to the US is still middle of July.
Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by rapidjim on Jul 6, 2012 11:10:31 GMT -5
Update:
There is a container of Magnums coming in the end of July. Pre orders are being taken however there are only 3 Silver and 6 Black left from the container coming in.
Jim
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Post by rapidjim on Jul 14, 2012 20:59:24 GMT -5
Okay here we go. Ice Bear sent me an advanced copy of an excel sheet of some of the changes that were made to the Magnums. This information is not on their web site yet but, gives some info and pictures of what is going on. The pictures are not the greatest, they were taken off an excell spreadsheet and converter to a jpeg. Better than nothing LOL. The reasoning is Ice Bear's not mine, except where noted. Suspension 2011: Independent Suspension 2012: Solid Axle Independent suspension might cause the rear bridge to loosen. New suspension system increases the stability. 2011 2012 My comments, where the independent rear suspension was an improvement over the original in 2010, they didn't change the swing arm like they did on this mod ( next set of pictures). From what I can see, there is an additional plate for the rear fender to mount too, that was there on the independent but, was not there on the 2010 models. You will also see the rear swing arm has been completely changed. Rear Swing Arm 2011: Single bracket swing arm 25012: Dual bracket swing arm The Dual bracket swing arm design allows 2 additional cushions. One between the rear swing arm and the main frame; the other between the rear swing arm and the engine. Cushion between swing arm & main frame Cushion between swing arm & engine ---1 Cushion between swing arm & engine---2 My comments: With the addition of the "cushions" I would think that engine to frame vibration will be decreased as well as providing a more solid mounting system for the engine. Exhaust System 2011: Single Exhaust System 2012: Dual Exhaust System Reduce the possibility of exhaust breaking issue. Increase weight balance and stability. 2011 2012 My Comments: I like the look of the dual exhaust mufflers and the way they are mounted. Looks better than that ugly muffler they used before. Hopefully the chrome is better than some of the chrome mufflers I have seen. This style system would allow changing the mufflers to a Harley Style Shortie muffler like what was used on a customers Road Warrior that I did a post on earlier. I also feel the exhaust will move faster out of the engine which will help with how the motor breathes. Balancer 2011: No balancer 2012: Balancer inside the frame Resolve issue of front end wobbling. My comments: They call it a balancer but more like a steering damper that the "big" trikes use to stop "tank Slap". Honda Gold Wing Trikes had a problem with this at around 30MPH. Some of the Harley Trikes had this also especially with extended or raked front ends. Loose triple tree bearings can also cause this. I think this is a great mod since any rear wobble will be felt in the handle bars and this should eliminate that. The tank slap was more so in the 2010s than in the 2011s. Side Panel 2011: No side cover 2012: Add side cover Cosmetic change 2011 2012 My Comments: Ice Bear calls this a cosmetic change but, by extending the side panels like this, it will also add more support to the sides. This should help with side cracks. As I said in the beginning, this is advanced information that has not been finalized or published on their site yet. It was sent to me for my comments and there may be more to come. If so I will post it. Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by ibtrikin on Jul 14, 2012 21:08:24 GMT -5
I like the looks of that exhaust.
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Post by richardhill on Jul 31, 2012 20:15:46 GMT -5
I just got my Magnum 300 R today, love the new duel exhaust look. With next to none as far as info in the manual can you post or email me photos or other info for the radiator fill and coolant recovery location?
Richard Hill ( rhill1@ma.rr.com )
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 1, 2012 8:19:44 GMT -5
I just got my Magnum 300 R today, love the new duel exhaust look. With next to none as far as info in the manual can you post or email me photos or other info for the radiator fill and coolant recovery location? Richard Hill ( rhill1@ma.rr.com ) As far as I know the body hasn't changed. the fill bottle should be in the same location as on this post scootdawg.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=threewheelers&action=display&thread=34402Surprised the dealer you bought from couldn't tell you. Hope this helps Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 3, 2012 8:13:34 GMT -5
Update:
I got a call from one of my customers yesterday that just got his new modded 2012 Magnum. He is quite happy! He ordered it with the PDI done ( By Ice Bear Ca.) Arrived with no issues or shipping damage. Once they got it off the truck and out of the custom made crate, it fired right up. The only thing he has to do is install the mirrors, Ice Bear learned the hard way not to install the mirrors for shipping.
He told me that it ran down the road very smoothly and did not notice any vibration except he does have a bit of a trunk rattle. He said that the steering felt great and did not notice any "tank slap" at all, even from a dead stop. He did not ride it too much due to the fact he needs to get it registered first.
I do have one coming from the next shipment in September, so I will be able to see first hand.
More info as it becomes available.
Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by richardhill on Aug 7, 2012 15:46:38 GMT -5
Jim;
My 2012 Magnum radiator fill is not at the photo location! Where is it, and how do I get to it? Any photo will be helpful.
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 7, 2012 16:40:14 GMT -5
Jim; My 2012 Magnum radiator fill is not at the photo location! Where is it, and how do I get to it? Any photo will be helpful. I am waiting for a call back from IB on this. As far as I know it should be in the same location between the headlights. Jim
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 7, 2012 16:59:07 GMT -5
Got an email from customer #2 on the new Magnum
"The trikes beautiful, it started right up (after an infusion of gas) and ran quietly without vibration. Impressive. Trying it out down the street went well, felt comfortable. The vibration noise you noted in your blog from the other customer who had just gotten his, I believe comes from the new "skirt" pieces added to the 2012 models. I observed and heard their rattle as the motor's rpm increased. There was no "tank slap" noted, however. Cornering, as I already knew, was a little hard. All in all, in the short run, I'm very pleased. Thank You."
Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by richardhill on Aug 8, 2012 7:22:36 GMT -5
Jim;
It is not there. If you wish I can send you a photo of mine, but your photo shows it in center and in front of the parallel bar above the horn but, there in nothing in front of the bar on mine. Can't flush or fill until I find out where it is.
It seems they do not think when they make the panels for the scooter. No way to get to pull starter, you have to reach through the shifter hole on the panel to get to the dipstick. I think they could have made a small opening panel for the coolant recovery.
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Post by richardhill on Aug 8, 2012 14:19:53 GMT -5
The 2012 Magnum 300 R radiator fill is under the top pannel of the upper right hand storage box. Do they like messing with your mind or what?
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 8, 2012 14:25:24 GMT -5
Yep I just read an email back from IB. That was a 2012 change
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Post by wile on Aug 8, 2012 14:31:24 GMT -5
Well they did a good thing for easy access, they are listening to customers complaints which is all good. Wile
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Post by richardhill on Aug 9, 2012 12:03:58 GMT -5
Just two screws and pop a panel wish they did the same for recovery. See photo: Attachments:
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Post by richardhill on Aug 15, 2012 9:49:08 GMT -5
When it comes to a PDI what is the minimum? As I found out the hard way, there is no minimum. It seems that during assembly either the tools they use, or the people who do the work are not very good. It seems that tightening things or the use of lock washers is unimportant. I went less than 1/2 mile to test things out, when my left rear brake calipers came off and unfortunately broke the brake hose. Something as important as this you would think would have had more attention. Found out that the bolts were just finger tight, no lock tight or lock washers. One larger Philips head bolt (not screw) about 3/4 in head, was on the floor when we started unpacking, and I have yet found out where it goes. If our automobiles were putt together in this fashion companies would fall like leaves. I don,t know the answer but there must be one. If you wanted to check every bolt and screw, you would have to remove every panel, then put back every clip as they always fall off. Don't guess this is covered under warranty so I have to pay for their poor assembly.
Frustrating!
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Post by rapidjim on Aug 16, 2012 10:29:58 GMT -5
When it comes to a PDI what is the minimum? As I found out the hard way, there is no minimum. It seems that during assembly either the tools they use, or the people who do the work are not very good. It seems that tightening things or the use of lock washers is unimportant. I went less than 1/2 mile to test things out, when my left rear brake calipers came off and unfortunately broke the brake hose. Something as important as this you would think would have had more attention. Found out that the bolts were just finger tight, no lock tight or lock washers. One larger Philips head bolt (not screw) about 3/4 in head, was on the floor when we started unpacking, and I have yet found out where it goes. If our automobiles were putt together in this fashion companies would fall like leaves. I don,t know the answer but there must be one. If you wanted to check every bolt and screw, you would have to remove every panel, then put back every clip as they always fall off. Don't guess this is covered under warranty so I have to pay for their poor assembly. Frustrating! I realize your frustration. I guess my first question would be why would you would want to do a "minimum" PDI when you are doing it yourself? For the caliper to "fall" off in less than a 1/2 mile it would have to be really loose, the bolts would have to be almost all the way out and rattling like crazy. To quote you "Something as important as this you would think would have had more attention." Even the best folks have a bad day now and then or get interrupted and think they have already checked something when in fact, they haven't. As far as "If our automobiles were putt together in this fashion companies would fall like leaves." have you ever looked at all the recalls and service notices that go out daily in the auto industry? Heck I remember when Chevy had steering sectors falling out of one of their models. Now saying all that, out of the 4 I sold ( dropped shipped with PDI done by IB) One customer had the same problem you did. It was missed during the PDI and the customer emailed me. I called IB right away and they did warranty it at no cost to the customer or me. I also stressed my concern over the problem to the Sales Manager. They contacted the factory. I contacted my other 3 customers and had them check their rear calipers and they were tight. So I thought it was an isolated incident. Thank goodness in your case and my customer's case, it happened at low speed and no one was hurt. Jim
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Post by richardhill on Sept 18, 2012 20:57:58 GMT -5
Magnum 300R 1012 manual states the spark plug is a A7TC a 10MM thread plug, my new Magnum came with a NGK DR8EA that is a 12 mm plug. One more reason the owners manuals paper is only good for wiping ones a-s. Who produces this worthless piece of crap. Hope someone soon produces a good owners/repair manual.
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Post by richardhill on Sept 18, 2012 21:09:06 GMT -5
When it comes to a PDI what is the minimum? As I found out the hard way, there is no minimum. It seems that during assembly either the tools they use, or the people who do the work are not very good. It seems that tightening things or the use of lock washers is unimportant. I went less than 1/2 mile to test things out, when my left rear brake calipers came off and unfortunately broke the brake hose. Something as important as this you would think would have had more attention. Found out that the bolts were just finger tight, no lock tight or lock washers. One larger Philips head bolt (not screw) about 3/4 in head, was on the floor when we started unpacking, and I have yet found out where it goes. If our automobiles were putt together in this fashion companies would fall like leaves. I don,t know the answer but there must be one. If you wanted to check every bolt and screw, you would have to remove every panel, then put back every clip as they always fall off. Don't guess this is covered under warranty so I have to pay for their poor assembly. Frustrating! I realize your frustration. I guess my first question would be why would you would want to do a "minimum" PDI when you are doing it yourself? For the caliper to "fall" off in less than a 1/2 mile it would have to be really loose, the bolts would have to be almost all the way out and rattling like crazy. To quote you "Something as important as this you would think would have had more attention." Even the best folks have a bad day now and then or get interrupted and think they have already checked something when in fact, they haven't. As far as "If our automobiles were putt together in this fashion companies would fall like leaves." have you ever looked at all the recalls and service notices that go out daily in the auto industry? Heck I remember when Chevy had steering sectors falling out of one of their models. Now saying all that, out of the 4 I sold ( dropped shipped with PDI done by IB) One customer had the same problem you did. It was missed during the PDI and the customer emailed me. I called IB right away and they did warranty it at no cost to the customer or me. I also stressed my concern over the problem to the Sales Manager. They contacted the factory. I contacted my other 3 customers and had them check their rear calipers and they were tight. So I thought it was an isolated incident. Thank goodness in your case and my customer's case, it happened at low speed and no one was hurt. Jim Got a set of stainless braided lines for a little over $8.00. No doubt a better line and it took only three days. It would probably take weeks to deal with the outfit that sold it and would probably charge much more for shipping. I purchased my Magnum from Killer Motor Sports who did not impress me with there sales. Like most once you buy you are on your own.
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Post by icecub on Oct 16, 2012 23:45:00 GMT -5
Lol! @ The manual... Yes that was funny, I got a good laugh out of the lack of proper usage and spelling in them. But Hey... Who cares? Ice Bear Rocks!!!!!
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Post by icecub on Oct 18, 2012 14:55:06 GMT -5
I was bored last night and this happened ;D ... Hmmm IceBear Racing? maybe someday, looool! This is just a rough idea. I adjusted the eye and mouth to look a little meaner and created the helmet from scratch. ;D Attachments:
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