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Post by jwalz1 on Feb 28, 2012 10:57:14 GMT -5
Does anyone know when SYM US will get their stuff in order and start bringing some of the bigger scooters here? Very little to choose from unless you want new old stock RV's and Citycoms.
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Post by tinstar on Feb 28, 2012 12:33:57 GMT -5
Does anyone know when SYM US will get their stuff in order and start bringing some of the bigger scooters here? Very little to choose from unless you want new old stock RV's and Citycoms. Amen to that! Best scoot out there in my opinion, but they have got to get the product out there and advertise! I have a RV250 and never looked back! I would love one of the new 400i's! |
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Post by inuyasha on Feb 28, 2012 12:58:55 GMT -5
Does anyone know when SYM US will get their stuff in order and start bringing some of the bigger scooters here? Very little to choose from unless you want new old stock RV's and Citycoms. Hi Relevant info www.justgottascoot.com/sym.htmTake care and drive safely Yours Hank |
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Post by jwalz1 on Feb 28, 2012 13:37:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the link Hank.
My local Sym dealer told me he thought they would be getting RV's by mid to late summer (according to Alliance), which jives with the link, but no mention of any of the EVO models.
My problem is this, plenty of old stock RV's around the country for $3500, but none within at least a $500 shipping charge or more. If my dealer gets new ones, then he said they will retail for $4500 but this is still and older model when compared to the Evo's. The bikes are probably mechanically identicall with just an updated fairing but I LIKE the new design. Used RV's can be found for $2500 or less, but again none near me and at least an additional $500 shipping and who knows what can happen during shipping.
$4500 for a new RV would be OK, but now you compare that with dealers who have left over 2010 &11 Kymco Downtowns at that price and the RV falls short. You are getting a new design, more power, and IMHO a better look than the older RV (which is still a good looking bike).
In my opinion, SYM dealers need to get the NEW designs and products, even if it is just cosmetic change or the switch to EFI or Sym dealer will just have to discount product immediately once it returns. The 300 pics in this thread make me want one and I would spend the money to buy new, but NEW RV's with the same design since 07 at $4500 make no sense with new-old stock still to be had and plenty of low mileage used ones. Most areas of the country, outside of Minnesota and the Dakotas, have new 09 RV's within a short drive.
New design generates new sales, older designs will bring slow sales. If this were not the case, there would not be dealers with brand new 2008's still on the floor at $3500. I also found that a dealer in Texas slashed his old stock to $3000 new to get rid of them. I would have paid the shipping charge to get one of those, but found out too late. But in the 200cc area take a look at the Sym Joyride EVO versus a Kymco Yager and tell me which one you'd prefer. Problem is, you can't buy a Joyride here.
Sorry for the thread hijack.
And an interesting note, Carolina Fun machines lists the Joyride 200 Evo coming this summer one their webite. I wonder what they know that everyone else does not?
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Post by jwalz1 on Feb 28, 2012 16:38:55 GMT -5
From an email a dealer sent me:
"I am an authorized Sym dealer for the new U.S. distributor Alliance Powersports and the only authorized dealer in Houston. They have told the dealer network the RV200i will be avaialable in the spring. That is the 200 injected EVO not a 250. That is what is in the pipe.
Randy
Scootermax"
Sounds like for now we get the 200 only.
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Feb 28, 2012 19:22:53 GMT -5
I'm guessing I would unbolt the seat from the tub, mask up the surrounding bike, fill up the tub with the things that need to fit in and the mounting feet (for taking the weight of the riders), curve a bit of foam over the top and plastic sheet - and then glass over the top to get the internal shape and tub-top-fit. Then another layer of glass to get the overhangs in nicely, and that will be the plug that I can either use directly or create a mold out of and so make more than one. What do you think - how difficult could it be?  Or you could do what I did to my Citycom like this  maybe cut away more. Then take the seat cover off , fill up the scoot bucket with your helmet, put the seat base back, seal the bottom of the seat base with tape&plastic and fiberglass the seat base. Cover the seat again once the fiberglass has set & spray fiberglass matte black. Should look factory made. |
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Post by Globs on Mar 11, 2012 8:27:48 GMT -5
Still waiting for a mechanic to be available for the first service, but in the meantime I have replaced the seat-hump for a smaller one I made, fitted new mirrors and weighed the rollers in the variator so I can order the new sliders. Pics later! The rollers in the stock UK SYM GTS300i evo are exactly 18g, 25mm OD diameter, and 22.3mm wide. Good idea about the seat kiwi - I will investigate that, it's full of lumps sticking down into the storage area. I actually think now that the Joyride and GTS/RV have the same amount of storage volume exactly, but the Joyride is more usable due to the shape - a nice big deep box. I was thinking about what ergonomics one really requires from a scooter and it's so simple I wonder why all manufacturers have not provided them a) Handlebar mirrors b) Big screen / selection of screens / adjustable screen c) Lots of storage even for an XL (62cm) lid d) A seat you can spread out a bit on - perhaps height adjustable And that's it really . Thinking now of trying to make a polycarbonate spoiler for the existing screen - but I need to figure out the fixings! I'm also trying to figure out how to hide the old mirror holes in the garnishing at the front (Yup - it has 'Garnish' stamped in the back ) So I'm thinking of going 18.5g or 19g for the sliders - kiwi (sorry if I asked this before) but what roller weight did you go from? |
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Post by Globs on Mar 11, 2012 10:27:15 GMT -5
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Mar 11, 2012 14:58:51 GMT -5
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Post by Globs on Mar 11, 2012 17:40:09 GMT -5
Thanks for the info kiwi, looks like you have the identical weights, so I'll go for 25x22,19g too.
I guess they put all the gearing for the different wheel size (13" on the GTS) into the final drive and kept the rest the same.
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Post by ootscoot on Mar 18, 2012 21:48:46 GMT -5
Regarding the earlier questions about the larger SYM models being available in the USA - my conversations with Alliance indicate that the RV 200 (non-injected) will be late spring 2012, the Wolf 250i (injected) will be early summer, the Citycom 300i (injected) in late summer, then the 400i Maxsym early 2013. No mention of the RV 300i - or RV250.
I am still very pleased with my Citycom (this is my 3rd one) in the newer configuration with the extra footroom - don't think I'll be switching again for a long time...
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Post by Globs on Jul 14, 2012 12:34:29 GMT -5
Just a quick update, have done 3,500km now on the GTS, the Isotta windshield makes a huge difference, all is working fine and mpg is good!
The led lights at the front are so good you can reserve the headlamps for night-time only!
Nothing at all has gone wrong, still silky smooth and good midrange power, the bar mirrors make it very easy to ride and the seat mods make for a comfortable cruise.
Can't really fault it at all, once the seat/mirror/screen/19g sliders are done it's a real cruiser with economy to boot and zero vibration anywhere once off the idle speed.
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Post by Globs on Oct 2, 2012 14:43:26 GMT -5
Another update at 5,000 km, bike going well, in fact I rode to France on it, about 1,500 km round trip and it was very dependable. I was getting about 90mpg on the 90km/h french N roads, and the seat is comfortable for indefinite periods of time!  I'd cruise for 300km, fill up for €15 and carry on for the next 300km, the Isotta screen helped massively too - an excellent screen. I used a seat bag for the back - modified for easy detachment, but I think next time I'd just go for a 40L Lomo dry-bag as that's easier to carry. The various cubby holes were useful too, but the main thing is the smooth torquey motor that picks up at walking pace and just goes on and on!! Additionally the lights - awesome. With high-beam and fog lamps the road was lit up like daylight and it lights up twisty roads in a fantastic way. The LED lamps also make the scooter VERY visible on the road - most of the time I just used the LED lamps - no headlamp, and was clearly being seen very easily. |
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