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Post by scootdoggydog on Feb 13, 2009 10:36:31 GMT -5
it shouldnt be that hard your problably trying the wrong screw and it your case you need to be screwing it in its the screw that has the spring around it
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Post by chiscooter on Feb 24, 2009 0:45:32 GMT -5
there is alot of info on these topics --- the more you read the more you will know what to do My suggestion is - now that you have it home - do the basic mods to it. get you a tickle battery charger and always keep one battery fully charged. then check you fuse, then check your grounder wire. But most of all do the basic modifications that the Dawg suggest in prior topics. gooooood information for all.
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Post by tucks20s on Apr 19, 2009 0:49:41 GMT -5
Here's a thought, how about do some research and not buy a cheaply made scooter, instead buy one you can drive home, not have to do anything to, doesn't have a different name every week, and has a good dealer backing. The one I bought has been tested time and again, one guy has over 30,000 miles on his original engine/trans while someone else drove on through 38 states. Get a Buddy and be happy.
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Post by xs650 on Apr 19, 2009 1:10:31 GMT -5
Here's a thought, how about do some research and not buy a cheaply made scooter, instead buy one you can drive home, not have to do anything to, doesn't have a different name every week, and has a good dealer backing. The one I bought has been tested time and again, one guy has over 30,000 miles on his original engine/trans while someone else drove on through 38 states. Get a Buddy and be happy. Some people are just consumers and some people are doers.
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Post by crazyivan on May 6, 2009 23:35:46 GMT -5
Here's a thought, how about do some research and not buy a cheaply made scooter, instead buy one you can drive home, not have to do anything to, doesn't have a different name every week, and has a good dealer backing. The one I bought has been tested time and again, one guy has over 30,000 miles on his original engine/trans while someone else drove on through 38 states. Get a Buddy and be happy. your a big puss....i have an $700 roketa that had honing marks in the jug at 950 miles of hard beatings(only reason the motor came appart is because i warped it wayyy to hard one day and poped a ring, got a great exuse to get more cc's). besides, isnt scooting all about saving money and getting there for less?
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Post by wvernonc on Jun 4, 2009 20:57:41 GMT -5
These scooters are known to have burrs on the kick starter gears. You may need to grind them some and make them mesh smoothly. Worked for me any way.
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Post by derric on Jun 6, 2009 11:57:54 GMT -5
I think it was wrong of her dealership to attempt to charge $200 diagnosis fee, if the scooter was still within its warranty period.
Keep at it Jen!
Maybe there's still yet a satisfying conclusion to this adventure...
In any case, I admire you enthusiasm!
Cheers,
Derric
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Post by tank50 on Jul 7, 2009 19:26:01 GMT -5
was jus browsin around, didnt feel like readin aaalll 9 pages. since the first click of her battery it sounded like a starter solenoid/relay. anyone mention that?
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Post by breckrider on Aug 9, 2009 10:35:31 GMT -5
Any updates on this?
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Post by mondo2420008 on Aug 14, 2009 8:33:34 GMT -5
the suspence is killing me
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Post by blueflames24 on Apr 14, 2010 23:45:52 GMT -5
well im guessing she gave up... its 2010 now and april... anyone know?
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Post by bobpt on May 6, 2010 18:41:09 GMT -5
Last time she logged in was October 2007!
p>.995 that she no longer participates on the forum.
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Post by SteveWard3928 on May 11, 2010 14:05:06 GMT -5
Start with the oil. Check it very often when it is new. If your engine froze you got limited options. 1) Rebuild 2) buy new engine 3) buy a new scooter. Only reason I know this is it happened to me. I scraped the thing and started over. The scooter I initally bought was $1000. I did not want to pay $1700. So the first summer I ruined my valves, wheel bearings and ignition coil needed replaced. So I spent $1700 dollars anyway. Also (this goes to everyone) remember these things are NOT motorcycles. You can't treat then as a motorcycle. Scooters are fragile in comparison.
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Post by grumpyinutah on Aug 2, 2010 11:40:07 GMT -5
Well, that sucks, I spent over an hour reading this story and I hoped for a happy ending. I guess that is life, not always a happy ending.
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Post by 4denise on Sept 13, 2010 1:18:40 GMT -5
All I can say is that watching you people do your very best to walk someone through a problem like this has greatly encouraged me. I may need your help at some point, and it's nice to know I can ask all the "stupid" questions I might need to.
Denise
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Post by shanghaid on Sept 23, 2010 23:50:37 GMT -5
This scooter is called "The Big Turtle King" over here in China. I see them all the time. Be sure to keep it clean and dry...as they have a tendency to rust (chrome bits) pretty quickly.
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Post by fuwad84 on Oct 20, 2010 16:12:57 GMT -5
Hey guys I hate to say this but after reading this entire post it seems like this women was grossly under-qualified to be working on a scooter. I mean the first obvious problem, not being able to turn the engine over even with a wrench, is hydro lock which could have been easily diagnosed by simply removing the spark plug and attempting to turn the crank - this of course was like the 4th or 5th thing she did at which point she goes ahead and breaks off the spark plug...look we ALL did dumb ass things working on stuff but the best advice any of you could have given her, as nice and informative as you all were, would be to have visited a competent mechanic. Just my 0.02
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Post by alancegsr150 on Jan 17, 2011 18:09:13 GMT -5
Hey Guys- I own a Lance GS-R 150cc. Had trouble with the kickstarter, took the cover off, realigned the gears, and now it works. Odd thing is, while on the center stand, it idled fine, but setting it on the ground, it vibrates, has a lower idle, and won't run right until my speed gets up. I've done valve adjustments before, had the carb and intake off, but can't see why it does this. Anybody have a clue? Thanx for your opinions.
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Post by ootscoot on Mar 16, 2011 8:52:00 GMT -5
check the variator
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Post by dkw12002 on Apr 20, 2011 16:37:35 GMT -5
I followed most of the advice and attempts to fix Jen's scooter. I think she had about 600 miles on it as I recall and perhaps paid $1,000. Then she spent many hours trying to fix it but was unable to in the end and was stuck with pouring much more money into it to try and fix it or probably giving the scooter away. This seems to be a very common problem with these do-it -yourself scooters. So that $1200 or even $800 for a new scooter doesn't look so great after all. My elderly neighbor was out working on his son's scooter with under 300 miles on it Its a LF150t6. It sold new for $1200 he said. Now it's broke. He even put another $75 in it to buy a new battery, had the thing apart spraying either in the intake hose and the thing starts but will not stay running. His goal is to get it running and try to sell it for $500. In all liklihood, it will wind up on the curb with a sign that says "free if you haul it off". No doubt a great scooter mechanic would be able to fix this machine, but this guy is 80 and would have to pay someone to haul it to a mechanic somewhere to try and get it fixed. What would that cost? Maybe another $500 or so, just a guess. To me, most people are paying way more for these than they would by buying a good scooter, paying 3X more, riding it, then selling it back to the dealer even at the end of the warranty. I mean $1000 for 600 miles in Jens case and $1200 for 300 miles is darn expensive riding.
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Post by 2010iron883 on Aug 8, 2011 6:29:09 GMT -5
If its like most then remove the cvt cover that is over the belt drive, variator, and clutch. On my scoot its on the left hand side. Take a wrench and put it on the center nut on the front pulley system. It is called a variator but if you are bent over looking at the scooter with the cover off if will be the pulley on the left and it is mounted on te crank shaft.
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Post by BaronScooter on Sept 18, 2011 11:41:02 GMT -5
Hey guys! Sorry I sort of vanished there. As Jon said, first it was travel, then the heat, then some minor health issues, and then I found out that I either need a top end rebuild or a new engine. In Atlanta there is an independent scooter seller named Scooter Steve www.scooter-steve.com/He wouldn't even take on the rebuild because he's had so much trouble with getting parts but he said he'd put in a new engine if I could get one. ATL Scooters is a dealership. www.atlscooters.com/They said they'd do the rebuild but they charge a LOT - $85 hour in labor. And they really seem like your typical car dealer types. So, right now I wait for Scooter Steve to get back from a trip out of the country. Then he's going to work up an estimate of repair for me to send to Free-Ride Scooters, who I bought Carpi from. Free-Ride is very aware of this website and I told them it shows that I had the problem within the warranty period (6 months parts). So...we'll see. This just ended up being something I couldn't fix though I wish I could. OK, I'm going to be off for a little while, but I will come back with an update when I have one. Oh, and it's fine if the thread got sidetracked by others' problems. Thanks, everyone, for all your help and well wishes and "atta girls"! Jen Just wanted to say that I am sure most all the posters here agree you are one heckuva trooper to go into the raw guts of scooter mechanic mania. If it is any consolation...even though you have gone to "virtually" a dead end, the good news is whether it is a dropped valve head or inhaled piece of chaff...the top end can be removed to find out what went wrong...for 2 reasons 1.) You can get a top end or rebuild kit and your 90% of the way there, 2.) You being on a limited budget, the additional tools to pull the heads assembly and check if free movement is only a few fasteners away to access without piston w/ rings removal. You can do the top end by only removing a lot less, but I thought music and graphics would help until I find the exact one for just the top end only, may not need to do more as the piston may not need to be pulled. Again you have kudos from me to go as far as you did! Here is a You Tube clip showing how it is done! www.youtube.com/watch?v=G58yapnZKpQ
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Post by adrian33773 on Aug 5, 2012 20:18:50 GMT -5
I know this is a dumb question, but you do have the scooter up on the jack stand with the rear wheel off the ground when you are trying to kick start? You can't kick start with wheel on the ground. With my scooter I ended up replacing the starter clutch inside the engine. The parts are cheap but it was a lot of work. You have to take the side cover off after you drain all the oil. Replace the starter clutch, put on new gaskets. Oh, I also had to remove magneto and flywheel before I could remove the cover. Had to have a special tool (about $25) for removing the magneto and flywheel. When I put it back together I didn't bother putting the kick start back on. Haven't had any problem with that since.
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Post by adrian33773 on Aug 5, 2012 20:20:57 GMT -5
I know this is a dumb question, but you do have the scooter up on the jack stand with the rear wheel off the ground when you are trying to kick start? You can't kick start with wheel on the ground. With my scooter I ended up replacing the starter clutch inside the engine. The parts are cheap but it was a lot of work. You have to take the side cover off after you drain all the oil. Replace the starter clutch, put on new gaskets. Oh, I also had to remove magneto and flywheel before I could remove the cover. Had to have a special tool (about $25) for removing the magneto and flywheel. When I put it back together I didn't bother putting the kick start back on. Haven't had any problem with that since.
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Post by spandi on Aug 5, 2012 20:26:16 GMT -5
2007 (dead thread)
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Post by adrian33773 on Aug 5, 2012 21:20:04 GMT -5
The gy6 starter doesn't move outward when the starter is running. The starter gear is always touching a gear inside the engine. The small gear inside turns a larger gear that forces the crank to turn. Once the engine starts the crank is able to turn faster than the larger gear, but the starter is always in contact with these gears. The whole set-up inside the engine is called the starter clutch. If the starter clutch is bad you only need to bench the starter. The starter is only held on by 2 bolts. Pull the starter out and contact the red wire to a battery. Touch the black wire anywhere on the starter to ground it. If the starter spins, it is okay. If it doesn't spin when installed, either the starter clutch ( inside the engine) is jammed out the engine is froze up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 2:35:36 GMT -5
Well... And I'll probably get shot for saying it, but I see a lot of people buying these gy6's and not three months later they're off the radar screen, gone, you don't see a one of them anymore, and it took time but I eventually figured it out...
I think too many people jump into this all excited, they see the price and about trip all over themselves reaching for the wallet, about throw the money over the counter, take off with their brand new 2-wheeler and now, just now is when they start to learn...
They done bought a scooter... This is legally considered a motor vehicle, the same as a car basically. And they don't have a clue as to what, where, how, who, and when.
Folks, do we buy houses this way? Then why cars, and why motorcycles? Do we enjoy blowing money? If so you can send it to me!
Folks... Don't buy one of these thinking it's a cheap ride, because that's not what it is, or better yet... If that's what you think it is, it will likely turn out to be anything but.
Don't buy a motor vehicle without doing proper research, no matter the price. I see people buy vehicles almost on impulse, they'll as soon buy the pink car because it looks cute... These are machines, they require frequent periodic maintenance, due diligence, anyone?
That's how folks end up with the 50 cc'ers, then they can't get out of anyone else's way, are frustrated by the disrespect shown by other drivers, doesn't take much beyond that to take the rest of the wind out of their sails, the next morning they wake up and the battery is dead...
You know... In ways scooters require more maintenance than a car, every 50 miles it needs gas, every day the tires need to be checked, every ride the lights need checking, the oil should be checked before every start of the engine... I realize probably only the most hard core of riders do it all, but how many people just dump gas in the tank and then wonder why the engine seized at 3,000 miles?
For starters, mine gets hooked up to a battery charger every time I park it for the night. You know, do some research. Then the $850 will be better spent, or not at all.
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