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Post by tomtom on Oct 19, 2007 18:22:53 GMT -5
Welcome back to the Dawg Pound, Jen. Don't be gone too long this time! We all hope your story turns out good. In my opinion, someone owes you a new engine!
Tom
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Post by earlwb on Oct 20, 2007 8:39:17 GMT -5
I wish you lots of luck and good vibes for this all. But getting another engine is probably the easiest thing to do, cheaper labor-wise too. I'd try to keep your old engine, so you have something you can tinker with to see how things work. If it doesn't turn out too bad, you can maybe use it as a base for performance hop up parts. and build up a high-perf engine for future useage.
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Post by YellowScooter on Oct 23, 2007 9:31:10 GMT -5
Im with earl... I'd think twice on rebuilding 1/2 of a weak engine just for the bottom 1/2 to go next summer. Plus it's less complicated to swap than it is to rebuild. IMO
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Post by yomati on Nov 14, 2007 0:10:13 GMT -5
You are getting a lot of good help here, so I'll just weigh in on the side of a bad starter coupled with a stuck kick start lever. I've been around small displacement engines for 30 years now, and I haven't had one mechanically lock up yet. If this were my scoot, I'd replace the starter now and see what happens. Happy scootin' eventually.
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Post by earlwb on Jan 7, 2008 18:25:35 GMT -5
I think he got snowed in and froze out for the season. He's probably out cross country skiing or snowmobiling or something.
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Post by gy6rocket on Feb 23, 2008 10:54:26 GMT -5
If it needs a top end rebuild, the cheapest way to fix it would be bolt on a new head. Perhaps the big valve head. They're one on ebay for $59.
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Post by superbike on Mar 9, 2008 21:10:19 GMT -5
if u can't find some one to fix it let me know. i think i may be able to help
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Post by bucky512men on Mar 22, 2008 14:21:14 GMT -5
Check your battery connections and make sure they are free of corrosion. I had the same problem on my Tank urban 150. If the terminals have the slightest bit of corrosion it wont start. Every week I go over the brass connections with a emery board that i keep handy next to the battery followed by treating the connections with a good battery dressing. Also replace the old glass fuse with a new style plastic fuse set up.
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Post by sputnik378 on May 22, 2008 13:35:01 GMT -5
I read through this entire thread waiting for some exciting conclusion, but I gotta say I knew it was ceased from the start. I recently ceased up a second scooter engine and the symptoms sounded all too familiar. Sorry for the bad luck Jen. Just be glad that your scooter isn't in the Virgin Islands where it will cost nearly the value of a new engine to ship a new block here. Needless to say I'm in a tough spot with my scoot. I am leaving on St. John on June 5th and I can't decide what to do with my crappy busted wheels. I could probably leave it here and come back at it when I return with parts and some more energy, or I could just chalk it up as a loss and leave the heap by a dumpster.
I have to say that Chinese scooters are at this point in my life the bain of my existence. After two engines, numerous wiring problems, and a lot of time spent under the plastic. I am rather torn to say the least. I am pretty sure that I could build a scooter from scratch at this point.
Alright guys so here it is I've got a big question and I kind of need a quick answer. Ceased engine (round two):
1st option: leave it and move on with my life get what money I can for parts (I've got one whole scooter and another that I've stripped everything off of in and threw the frame in the dumpster) 2nd option: rebuild and big bore it. (I've looked at Sin's "my 170 upgrade" post and it looks almost too easy) 3rd option: Marvel Magic it and beat on it til it breaks loose.
The apparent issue with the second option would be that I'm currently in the process of getting the hell off this island and I'm not sure when I'll be coming back. I could stash it here though that's for sure and hope that sometime I could get back to it. On top of the rebuilding I think I would have to do a few things like fix the wiring and find a different option for a battery as batteries on this island last about 6 months period. So that means I would need: wiring harness, dry cell battery (if such a thing exists for a scooter), replacement headlight, and all necessary parts to big bore it. It almost sounds like a real pain in the ass for a scooter, but I dunno. What do you fellas think?
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Post by estein on Jun 26, 2008 16:38:15 GMT -5
So what was the final conclusion??? I'm about to buy a Roketa 150cc scooter and I don't want to buy a new engine for it!! (A little over-dramatized)
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Post by fatlou01pa on Jul 2, 2008 22:59:53 GMT -5
have a capri 150 same as lance and had the it worked on but now there is oil coming out of the air box and filter what is doing this?? vac line not right a bad ?? can anyone help me thanks fatlou
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Post by bladscootdawg72 on Jul 6, 2008 16:10:15 GMT -5
Got my Appollo 150cc July 3rd and right off the bat I had a gas leak. Took off the seat, battey, some plastic moulding and the storage compartment. Looked like the line was leaking at the wire clamp. Changed clamps, still leaked. Turned out to be the CHEAP inline filter. Guess they didn't use enough super glue. The 2 piece plastic was not put together properly. Bought a lawn mower inline filter, installed it and it seems to be fine. I'm a total novice and I do not read or understand Chineese so my questins are, What weight oil do I need for the engine and what for the gear box? Please advise.
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Post by sc00terchris on Jul 7, 2008 1:23:30 GMT -5
your starter might have something like a scrap of metal in it preventing it from moving to start the engine.
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Post by judas on Jul 8, 2008 13:09:55 GMT -5
ok i have two gy6 scoots like this and my wifes just died while running to work. same symptoms as jens here except mine isn't seized. i have swapped all electrical parts from my running scooter and still nothing. it just clicks when you press the starter. its getting gas, its getting spark, but wont start. any ideas?
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Post by "Big Guy" on Jul 8, 2008 13:20:47 GMT -5
ok i have two gy6 scoots like this and my wifes just died while running to work. same symptoms as jens here except mine isn't seized. i have swapped all electrical parts from my running scooter and still nothing. it just clicks when you press the starter. its getting gas, its getting spark, but wont start. any ideas? Yeah, bad/discharged battery, even though you have spark. Kick start it and check the voltage to the battery. -Rich
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Post by judas on Jul 8, 2008 15:54:38 GMT -5
like i said i replaced every electrical component from my working scooter as well as tried jumping from a car. voltage at rest is 13.5v while depressing the starter button drops below 8v, even while hooked up to a car. any ideas.
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Post by wildbill on Jul 9, 2008 18:47:58 GMT -5
hey Jen,don't buy a new battery.charge the one you have. this is something you may have to do periodically.buy a one amp charger and leave it on the battery overnight.it wont overcharge it. try that. does your scoot have a center stand? put it on the stand, then try to push down on the kick starter. mine requires 10 pumps to build up compression,then turn on switch and hit the starter...Baroooommm! dont let your hubby stand on the starter.it ain't broke yet?don't forget to apply your brake or it will not turnover.I've been there,done that. mine will not start while on side stand. wildbill
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Post by voyager on Jul 19, 2008 3:06:55 GMT -5
If the tank is below the engine you won't have hydraulic lock. Try jumping the 2 large lugs on the starter relay with a screwdriver blade. my guess whould be the kickstart gear has jammed against the variator.It would sound like you have a jammed starter motor. dave old newbie
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Post by fireburster on Aug 22, 2008 12:44:50 GMT -5
i got a mc 04 150y and the fuel line from filter to carb leaked. The clamp was too big and it would slide off the carb and leak fuel. I bought a hose clamp and ACE and put that on. Seems to have fixed it. Fuel lines seemed ok quality just bad clamp.
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Post by lankeeyankee on Sept 17, 2008 0:53:25 GMT -5
Roketa Bali 150. BOD= July, 2008 Mileage= 740
P:Brake light stays on.
S: Found Rear Brake Lever Brake switch improperly adjusted.
Fix time: 15 Minutes
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Post by rocketdog on Oct 17, 2008 18:41:00 GMT -5
P<0.05
Lets call China and tell them it's Capri for heaven sake. Makes them look awfully silly.
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Post by scox on Nov 3, 2008 18:59:48 GMT -5
Actually it is Carpi. Named after an Italian city like the Sicily . I've had mine for about 6 months now, and along with my current brake problem, I've done nothing but adjust and tighten ever since I purchased it. It started after the first week with the bad brake light switch for the rear brake, then the kick start just fell off the second week. After that, I just check and tighten everything about once a week. When I purchased it I went on a search of motorcycle and ATV shops to work on anything serious that might come up and went in this one shop and told the guy I bought a Roketa and he said "Somebody didn't like ya much." Then he went on to tell me how bad and cheapley built they were.
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Post by rocketdog on Nov 19, 2008 21:50:20 GMT -5
Well right you are Scox. There is a Carpi Italy. Wonder why they would name a Scooter after such a small town in Italy? I still think they need to change the name. No offense to you Carpions . They could name it "Springfield" after Homer Simpson. At least some of the population of the world has heard of that.
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Post by rocketdog on Nov 21, 2008 19:58:24 GMT -5
What's happened to Jen and her Scooter? I sympathize with her plight and would help out if I were able. If she was anywhere near Middle TN I would go help her.
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Post by buymecar on Feb 10, 2009 3:35:25 GMT -5
Hello Dawgs.
I thought the first problem with my Lance Milan would be that the fuel gauge is off, but it just turns out that even with my size, the scoot has an impressive 90-95 MPG when the specs note 75.
My first problem occurred today while at a red light. After maybe 30 seconds of waiting at a red light, my scooter just turned off. I didn't notice until the green light showed and just turned it back on. For fear that it wouldn't happen again, I slightly pulled on the throttle at red lights to keep it awake.
What might be the cause behind this? I figured it might be the battery. Forgot to buy a charger, so it's the first thing I'll do tomorrow. What else might it be?
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Post by scootdoggydog on Feb 10, 2009 4:30:27 GMT -5
My first problem occurred today while at a red light. After maybe 30 seconds of waiting at a red light, my scooter just turned off. I didn't notice until the green light showed and just turned it back on. For fear that it wouldn't happen again, I slightly pulled on the throttle at red lights to keep it awake. What might be the cause behind this? I figured it might be the battery. Forgot to buy a charger, so it's the first thing I'll do tomorrow. What else might it be? your idle speed needs adjusting screw in the screw on the top of the carb a little 90-95 mpg is that a 50cc?
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Post by buymecar on Feb 10, 2009 13:18:49 GMT -5
Thanks, scootDD. Will things get worse if I don't get that done immediately? I want to know because I'm sure my dealer doesn't want me to come back until I'm sure somethings wrong and @ 300 miles so that he can get it all done together. I'd actually prefer it that way... its either the scooter or the bus.
And no, it's actually 149cc. Tank is 1.3 gallons so I figured I should be halfway through when i was 50 miles in if the MPG is 75. I talked it over with my dealer and we both looked inside the tank and it was just about 3/4ths of the way, which is what the fuel gauge was saying. I hit 100 miles today and was 1/4 full so it kinda adds up.
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Post by scootdoggydog on Feb 10, 2009 15:16:46 GMT -5
the only thing thatll get worse is trying to keep your scooter running untill you adjust the idle speed idle speed screw is easy to adjust its so easy if you can use a screw driver you can adjust your idle do you have a small door in the bucket under the seat open it look for the carb there should be a screw sticking up start the scooter start screwing the screw in untill the rear wheel starts spinning then screw it out untill it stops idle should be between 1500-2000 wheel usually starts spinning at 3000-3500 rpms if you have a tach picture of carb and idle adjusting screw
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Post by buymecar on Feb 10, 2009 16:26:24 GMT -5
Allright, well I'll check that out asap. Thanks again.
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Post by buymecar on Feb 12, 2009 13:34:13 GMT -5
OK, so I had time to take a look and tried to unscrew it. It was screwed down way too tightly, and quite honestly, the screw is made out of some cheap metal. I couldn't loosen it so I'm going to buy a screw set for my electric screwdriver tomorrow so I can take care of it.
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