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Post by jake318 on Apr 15, 2009 10:09:11 GMT -5
Kliff im not going to befriend someone who calls me a liar !!! Just because someone doesnt take a bike to have it timed and just ses someone riding beside you doesnt mean they are lying . In reading people being jelous and LOOKING for a lie that just isnt there . I just not anal retentive . Having a scoot that goes 90 or 100 isnt important enough to get that precise . and yes the gy6 is relable ... just not at 16:1 (also a guesTimate Elmer told me .) And it is irritating people (harry ) who have a chip on there shoulder if someone has money. Ive been poor as a churchmouse when young . Jake
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 15, 2009 10:56:45 GMT -5
The uproar over the downhill is because you said it was 13 degrees and I commented on that. You have now negated that, so I shut up about it.
Maybe you can help me with something though jake. When you came here you were gung ho about GY6 performance and fast scooters. Why is it that when you are questioned about it or if anyone asks for pics, vids, track times, etc... scooters aren't important enough for you to waste your time with them? I appreciate anyone sharing their experiences, but you have to understand that when someone comes around doing 30-40MPH faster than most GY6 scoots people want to see it for themselves. If I make my little scoots go much over 60MPH I would expect people to ask for proof... and that's from someone that's posted TONS of pics, some vids, and documented basically every mod. Telling someone your GY6 scoot goes 100MPH is like a 150 pound man telling you he bench presses 500lbs. He may be able to do it, but you're gonna wanna see it for yourself. It's only natural for people to be somewhat skeptical of the extraordinary.
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Post by jake318 on Apr 15, 2009 15:14:15 GMT -5
the standard gy6 goes what 70? on a flat if left to wind out ? ( takes awhile ) the reason for no vids is just time , father died 10 trust acounts (all fouled up ) lawyers ect run a buisines 5 yes 5 kids . And with chronic pain( broken back and bone deteriation diesese) im down alot . I like sharing info but its all rough info to be THAT exact takes time and effort . I would have to learrn more about the computer and thats low on the prority list . tried photshop many times I get either one screen or the other cant get info across . i bought the best camera cannon makes with all the accessories . No time for even TAKING the pics . The best proff thats easy is taking a ride with tiger this summer . And was told a video with GPS isnt even good enough . If hahaving proof is having to go to pocono raceway 150miles away and get timed ticket . well count me out call me a liar what have you . if i do have time to hit pocono ill take the Buell im working .Sorry im more curious about the bike I put 10,000 dollars in mods vs a scooter . Ill post A ticket on that . One of the thing modding scoots Is great for is being able to see your results on the highway you can get away with 90-100 and a cop might let you slide 160 170 your losing your licence for sure . ... ps i didnt think 13 degrees was that much , slight grade . I thought you example was at least 30 degrees . Jake
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Post by 90GTVert on Apr 15, 2009 17:43:49 GMT -5
Wish the GY6 in my garage went 70. It's a friend's, but with exhaust and filter it tops out just over 60MPH on flat roads with him at 140-150lbs. That's from a truck speedometer pacing him and he's done around 60MPH through radar signs.
To be clear, I'm not calling you a liar. A video with GPS would be cool. Any video of you at speed would be cool. You can tell the difference between a scoot going 70 and a scoot going 90-100 I would think. If I get the motivation to mount a full size camcorder again (helmet cam style would be much easier) I'll prob just run mine through a radar sign. You'd be able to see it from a front view. (If anyone else decides that's a good idea, always obey the speed limit. ;D) Don't have a truck? Load the Buell and the scoot up if you go to the track if you do. It'd be more fun with more bikes anyway. And yeah, I'm clear on the fact that you were trying to say it was a slight decline and 13 degrees doesn't sound steep.
And since I'm talking to you here, Happy Birthday.
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Post by 2btiger on Apr 15, 2009 22:09:49 GMT -5
ok so I'm sure you all were wondering when I would jump in to jake318's defense. Well I first have to say that it's kinda sad that the success of LaExtraterrestre has been overshadowed by the long ongoing debate over jakes 100mph scooter. I haven't seen kbperformance or jowieperformance post anywhere on the forum since . I really like their intro & I was hoping for more . As for jake318 he's helped me immensely through the doldrums of my winter project (still not completed, tested or tuned ). He helped me with advice and NEVER pushing me to add warp engines ( I mean really it's a bloody scooter for crying out loud ). In fact he has kept my spirits up with his amazing energy ( the man's got the energy of a 5yr old) and chastised KSPower when they even looked like they were slacking off. As far as the 100mph scooter ................ IT'S ALL BS, no ones ever seen it , no ones ever heard it, and no one should believe in it. I mean that what we all want rite? I mean it could never have gone faster than any other scooter before La Extraterrestre RITE? SHAME ON HIM. over 80mph Downhill? 13 degree grade? for 3 miles? THE MAN SHOULD BE SHOT. Seriously you guys want the scooter on the clock at Bonneville? You have got to be kidding me!!! These are scooters for heaven sakes. You guys are like the cops grilling an innocent (but flawed ) suspect , got jake stammering and mixing up his philosophies, telling his personal trials ( lord nows we all got those these days especially ). He built a fast scooter, maybe, and posted the flaws in the formula. I know if I had a failure I would never tell . I've been watching these inquisitions for months now, not saying anything, but you took over my/our La Extraterrestre story, and "dats not cool" . I know I'm in or out of some click now or lost credibility or guilty of breaking some scooter etiquette, but may I suggest that if someone started a thread a long time ago titled something like " jakes 100mph scooter fact or fiction" it would be a 10 page sticky by now ;D. If I can get my act together I promised jake I would take a run out to his neck of the woods ( I have promised others also ) and I thought it would be cool to take pic and vids to post in "show and tell" or the "Remember...It's all about the ride!" sections. I have to admit now I'm kinda of worried about getting a negative response or getting chased off the forum , even posting in jakes favor could mean no more help from you guys, who knows? (not you so much 90 ;D ) Bottom line it's scary Tiger.
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Post by indy50 on Apr 15, 2009 22:31:41 GMT -5
LMFAO been following this thread Started about jowieperformance"s scoot & accomplishments Documented runs Now it is all about Jake's BS claims
Yo Jake ........ if you got a GY6 that'll do 90 I'd like to see it........... 100 LOL
BTW jowieperformance............ you guys in PR rock maybe we can step up here in the states soon +1 at ya
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Post by jake318 on Apr 16, 2009 0:54:59 GMT -5
Tiger the most these guys can comprehend is a new variator and lighter rollerweights and even THAt they dont understand . They just bolt it on and start the bike back up > Monkey see Monkey do . Now trying to tell them about why a high compression engine with 160cc will outrun a normal compression engine with 180cc is like trying to teach algebra to your dog . jake
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Post by jake318 on Apr 16, 2009 0:59:42 GMT -5
Ive given enough to people here . to much in fact . Im off moving on last post . Even before the uproar I was getting board here . ... You are truely scooterist and will never be motorcyclist . . 50mph is all the guts they have ... jake
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Post by Aerostudent on Apr 16, 2009 1:28:42 GMT -5
Hey Jake, sorry it all ended like this. I'd PM you but it looks like you deleted your account, hope you see this. Anyway, a final thanks for the parts, and hopefully you get to take a look at the build I did, IT RUNS!!!! YAY! Seems to have a lot more 'omph' like it should being a stroker. Does 50 uphill without a sweat, and actually has a measureable 0-60 time now! ;D Later, see ya round!
Aero
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Post by kliff on Apr 16, 2009 6:34:10 GMT -5
I have to admit now I'm kinda of worried about getting a negative response or getting chased off the forum , even posting in jakes favor could mean no more help from you guys, who knows? (not you so much 90 ;D ) Bottom line it's scary Tiger. Bullchit.... A man picks his freinds for many different reasons, and just because someone doesn't beleive or like the actions of one of your freinds, is no reason to take anything out on you. I'm not like that. Some people supported Mccain, some Obama, I have freinds in both camps, so what, freedom of choice. If your choice is to befreind jake, so be it. I see no reason existing and future friendships should not still flourish. Even jake's last comments, should be taken with a grain of salt. He was angry, and lashing out. It's a shame, some will always remember him by those remarks alone. 'nuff said. You're cool Tiger. ;D Have a bone!
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Post by 2btiger on Apr 16, 2009 7:51:00 GMT -5
Thanks kliff, back at'cha.
My perception may be wrong but our forum/sections always seem progressive. This was a hard winter for all and jake318 was a real cheerleader for all the winter projects, I mean it's his thang, he obviously likes mods. A lot of guys specialize, some electric, some MC/scooter history, some stock, some retro and so on.
Now that riding season is here for most, the days longer and the winter blues fading away, everyones spirits are perking up. Winter projects are being tested, the overall quality of our scooters and data base has risen once again. IMO this thread would have been (can still be) the cherry on the sunday which we are all about to enjoy while cruising along.
Jake did the correct thing by ending his membership, even if just for a little while. He never meant any harm, but his detractors would hunt him down and degenerate anyones thread to disprove ONE aspect of his forum persona.
Jake will be back perhaps in a different form, a guest, an add-on to another dawgs posts ( MINE). I will still ride out to his county this summer ( and a few others) and validate his work and his help with mine. Knowing Jake (a little) he will be resistant to me posting any pixs or vids I do of his stuff, because "It's just scooters" .
Scooters are what angels would ride if they came down and we're complacent about them, man how funny is that.
Peace & Pistons
Tiger.
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Post by stradarx150te on Apr 16, 2009 19:57:32 GMT -5
Man i wish i new what new forums he was on. Maybe i could get a new buell. LOL No jakes a good guy and the people that know that have his phone number!!
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Post by xs650 on Apr 16, 2009 20:06:52 GMT -5
Man i wish i new what new forums he was on. Maybe i could get a new buell. LOL No jakes a good guy and the people that know that have his phone number!! Google is your friend jake318 buell Jake318 harley
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Post by harrywr2 on Apr 17, 2009 17:16:21 GMT -5
I'm soooooooooooooooooo jealous.
One daughter went to Cornell...another is at Brown. Soon as the the youngest graduates Brown I'm retiring.
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Post by kliff on Apr 17, 2009 18:40:49 GMT -5
Let it go guys...we've done blown this thread totally to Hell, and haven't even seen all the pics promised by our Puerto Rican freinds....let 'er go...
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Post by kink on Apr 21, 2009 14:44:16 GMT -5
wow... i think this thread has totally scared away the puerto rican guys who started it.
it's a shame too, since they seem to really know their stuff. also, one of them is a parts dealer who seems to stock quite a few hard to find parts (a good selection of cams, 11 pole flywheels, etc).
for what it's worth: it's generally considered good forum etiquette to avoid heated discussions of a personal nature, or at least withdraw to private messages when discussing such delicate subjects. for one thing, people tend to be less defensive when not in a publicly viewable thread, and for another thing it doesn't alienate new users who may read all your dirty laundry and get a bad impression of the type of community we are.
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Post by phaze on Apr 21, 2009 19:55:56 GMT -5
were dawgs , plain and simple lol
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Post by kbperformance on Apr 26, 2009 23:18:51 GMT -5
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Post by kbperformance on Apr 27, 2009 16:47:34 GMT -5
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Post by phaze on Apr 27, 2009 21:15:47 GMT -5
you guys think this thread scared him away it was probably the 100 pm's he was sent for mod secrets lol, oh and he's a racer do you think he will tell i know i wouldnt .
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Post by kbperformance on Apr 29, 2009 2:20:37 GMT -5
In www.prsportcompact.com see in the scooter forum, 2 scooter programable fuel injection one of this is ESTRADAS RACING in the last visit At CAROLINA SPEEDWAY 7.26@91.4mph !!!
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Post by kbperformance on May 1, 2009 6:12:26 GMT -5
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Post by phaze on May 1, 2009 6:55:42 GMT -5
were american can you translate?
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Post by Aerostudent on May 1, 2009 15:28:25 GMT -5
In www.prsportcompact.com see in the scooter forum, 2 scooter programable fuel injection one of this is ESTRADAS RACING in the last visit At CAROLINA SPEEDWAY 7.26@91.4mph !!! That's freaking awesome!!!! Are there any build up tips you CAN share? Not asking for trade secretes or anything, but some much needed advice from you pros in PR would be awesome! Aero
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Post by kliff on May 1, 2009 17:25:58 GMT -5
I'd settle for some links to shops that wanna sell over here..... Y'all have way more cam choices than us!
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Post by kbperformance on May 2, 2009 18:24:38 GMT -5
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Post by moot on May 2, 2009 18:26:20 GMT -5
"Please enter your username and password to log in."
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Post by kliff on May 2, 2009 18:31:50 GMT -5
Even in Spanish....those spec sheets are easy enough to decipher. And those are some SERIOUS numbers. I'm gonna start saving for a Puerto Rican vacation sometime in the next year or so. I gotta see some of this action up close and personal!
Are there any shops down there that rent scooters?
BTW...+1, have a bone KB!
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Post by kliff on May 2, 2009 18:35:19 GMT -5
"Please enter your username and password to log in." So join the board. I did, those guys don't bite....LOL.
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Post by kbperformance on May 4, 2009 1:39:55 GMT -5
THIS IS LA TWISTER WHIT NEW LOOK MARINE BLUE & CARBON FIBER, IN THE FIRST EVENT OF TEST & TUNE IN CAROLINA SPEEDWAY ON SUNDAY MAY 09 2009!!! ENGINE GY6 WHIT ALCOHOL!!! THE MECHANIC OF LA TWISTER IS MOCHO CAM DEGREE!!!
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