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Post by tomitas on May 27, 2010 10:02:29 GMT -5
Kiwi what do you think??
The dealer told me to do the first service at 1000KM ! ( I have now almost 300KM)
I am interested in your opinion, suggesting what to do on the first service and when is best to make any other??
Many compliments ;D
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Post by Kiwiscoot on May 27, 2010 15:35:37 GMT -5
tomitas - he's right as far as the manual goes. But I would change the oil of the engine (800-900ml of 10W30 non-synthetic oil) and the oil of the transmission ( synthetic 75W90 or close to that ). You'll be surprised how dirty the oil of the transmission is. Lots of filings, etc.
happy scooting
Kiwiscoot
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Post by tomitas on May 28, 2010 3:58:13 GMT -5
tomitas - he's right as far as the manual goes. But I would change the oil of the engine (800-900ml of 10W30 non-synthetic oil) and the oil of the transmission ( synthetic 75W90 or close to that ). You'll be surprised how dirty the oil of the transmission is. Lots of filings, etc. happy scooting Kiwiscoot I'll do as you say..... thx m8 (happy scooting) |
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Post by hualalai on Jun 14, 2010 17:11:11 GMT -5
Want to turn off the "oil change" light on a Citycom? Nothing about turning it off in the owner's manual or in the service manual.
Answer: Turn ignition key to "on", press the "OIL" button in the "OIL SET" pair of buttons on the instrument panel.
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Post by hualalai on Jun 23, 2010 0:58:56 GMT -5
The Kiwiscoot seat mod is great! I will go so far as to say that it transforms scooting for those 6'2" and taller. I have never had so much room on a scooter, even maxi-scooters. If you do the mod, use the thickest Dremel cut-off disk (about 3 mm). The cut is more melting the engineered plastic than cutting it. I consumed 3 cutoff disks, as in disintegration, so wear protective great against globs of hot plastic and disk fragments (you might do it with one disk if you are patient and do a third, let the disk cool, repeat x2). |
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Jun 23, 2010 20:20:38 GMT -5
I used one Dremel disk going real slow and careful with a fast spinning disk. Glad my idea was of use to you. Now the next thing is to look at the three knobs, just where the seat rise. From what I believe they are wire hoops holding the top of the seat down onto the foam. I'm afraid they will wear thru the top.
How many miles on that scoot of yours hualalai ?? Mine sitting at just over 19500kms and going strong. Only thing that's giving trouble now is the factory battery in our cold weather -2degC/28degF mornings does not hold it's capacity. I've just ordered a bigger 12Ah battery for it. I think the factory 10Ah is a bit small when it's cold & dark and the scoot runs with it's lights on all the time.
happy scooting and that plush modified seat of yours - don't fall asleep on the scoot now.
Kiwiscoot
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Post by hualalai on Jun 24, 2010 17:05:39 GMT -5
By the second day of riding, I was totally adjusted to the slight "bucket seat" feel, and my enjoyment of the Citycom is markedly increased. I can even use the "high footrests", which was impossible for me before the mod. Before my adjustment to the slight bucket seat feel, I thought I might fit a resilient sheet in the seat pan opening, but I've decided to leave it the way it is for now.
My Citycom only has 4,000 miles (6,400 km). It has become my primary means of transportation, even for Costco runs. I lay a mesh scuba gear bag across the pillion and attach it to the side grips and top case bracket using releasable cable ties, and hang a large scuba gear mesh bag from the "dashboard hook" ... probably 100 liters of cargo room among the mesh bags, top case, and under-seat bin. 12 rolls of paper towels, no problem. I've ridden in Taiwan too long for the "appearance" of a scooter with "full cargo" to matter.
Yuasa batteries are more expensive, but have the best longevity (I have 9 motorcycles in various places, and the Citycom) ... I have used many brands of batteries. There are probably only a handful of moto battery manufacturers in the world, most of which are in China, but many brands and concepts of QC.
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Post by furshore on Jun 28, 2010 13:56:08 GMT -5
Unexplained noise-yesterday when I started to ride my scooter I noticed a vibrating type noise. I discovered that the cotter pin that holds the rubber fitting on the center stand was broken and the rubber stopper and washer had come off. I later found them on the garage floor and reinstalled them but this time I used a stainless steel cotter ring and that should be more secure. But you may want to check your center stand cotter pin. Attachments:
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Jun 30, 2010 17:34:21 GMT -5
Well with our cold dark weather here lately my battery lost some of it's capacity. It just would turn over the engine good, but it would not start. My runs (with headlights on) are 3-7kms every morning, lunch and evening to work and a 30-50km run most weekends. The battery voltage was at 12.45V in the morning, it fell to about 11.5V during cranking, but the scoot would not fire. Connecting a jump-pack to the battery caused it to fire up immediately with the voltage during cranking at 12.6V. Looking at the standard OEM Yuasa battery, here's my thoughts: 1.) It is a 12V 10Ah battery, CCA I don't know. 2.) seems a bit small to me, especially when it's cold and you do short runs with the headlights on for most of the week. 3.) the battery compartment has a lot of unused space that can be use by a larger battery. In the end I found a 12V 12Ah 210CCa MF Gel battery that will fit in the battery compartment.  Starting has been fine since I did it a week ago. I keep on checking the battery every morning before I start and the voltage this -1DegC/30degF frosty morning was a healthy 12.74V. If ever you need to change your battery this is a good upgrade to an already excellent scoot. happy scooting Kiwiscoot |
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Post by flyangler on Jun 30, 2010 18:06:12 GMT -5
Kiwiscoot, did you have to charge the new gel battery before installing or is it good to go.
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Jun 30, 2010 22:13:26 GMT -5
Good to go, but I did put it on the "Charge 'n Maintain" battery chargera day later overnight. The maintain light did come on immediately tho.
Fly - did you get a new scoot a little while ago?? did you get rid of the Citycom?? or just collecting scoots? ;D
kiwiscoot - from where it's a beautiful sunshine day and the snow covered mountains are calling one Citycom & it's rider.
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Post by robprid on Aug 24, 2010 13:57:52 GMT -5
Hi Kiwi
Have you made ant further modifications to your scoot lately ?
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 13, 2010 15:40:52 GMT -5
Yes I have, I made a foam air filter for it. Made a very healthy improvement for performance and an improvement to fuel consumption.
I'll put some photos up.
happy scooting
Kiwiscoot
PS robprid - do you have a Citycom??
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Post by ootscoot on Sept 13, 2010 16:16:40 GMT -5
Just sold two more Citycoms recently - both to women riders, so our citycom club here in SB is growing - so are the smiles.
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 13, 2010 16:27:41 GMT -5
Here is my latest modification to my Citycom. I've had to replace the air-filters every 10 000km and found they got very dirty. They are not cheap at NZD62 a go. A washable solution was in the works. I did have a go at it last year - this was the effort.  Bottom side  This did not work as the surface area was just to small. The scoot felt starved of air and the filter got very dirty in a short while. That was Mark1 filter and needed improvement. Here is Mark2 now.  Top side  Bottom side  Air filter foam You will need the following to make your own: 1.) old Citycom air-filter 2.) expanded metal mesh 3.) Natural cure RTV/ silicon sealant. I used auto windscreen sealant. 4.) Dremel tool or something to cut out old filter 5.) tin snips to cut mesh to shape. 6.) marker pen. 7.) air filter foam and filter oil 8.)sharp scissors to cut the foam I used a Dremel tool to cut the old air filter out leaving an edge around the inside of the filter. Flatten the "ribs" in the plastic to give the mesh a flat surface to lie on. Trace the shape of the inside of the air-filter on the mesh and cut to size. Use the silicon sealant to glue it to the inside of the "frame" you've made. I traced the outside of the filter onto the foam and cut it out. The edge of the foam filter is captive between the edge of the air filter box and the edge of your crafted air filter frame. I've done about a 1000 km with it and will inspect it in another 200km when the scoot needs a service. The scoot feels like it has more up and go and it looks like my fuel consumption has improved too. IMHO it was a worthwhile exercise. happy scooting Kiwiscoot |
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 13, 2010 16:33:53 GMT -5
Just sold two more Citycoms recently - both to women riders, so our citycom club here in SB is growing - so are the smiles. Great going ootscoot. How's the shoulder(?) going? all mended? My scoot will have it's 2nd birthday at the end of the month with 22 000 km of trouble-free and fun filled riding. I never tire of riding it. happy Citycom-ing! kiwiscoot - from shaky Christchurch, just had a 4.3 magnitude after-shock |
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Post by fshfindr on Sept 13, 2010 18:34:31 GMT -5
Hey Kiwiscoot, someone else already said WOW, but I'll say it again, it fits. Great narration and pics. I feel familiar with the bike and I've never been on one. I will certainly be looking at them when I'm ready. As you know, I'll be looking in Feb and the 300I will be first on the list.
Thanks,
Rich L.
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 13, 2010 22:29:45 GMT -5
Rich, they are great scoots. I've looked at Tmax, Silverwing, Burgmans and Scarabeo, but the Citycom is a dream as far as maintenance goes. Oil filters, drain plugs and air filter easily accessable and no tupperware to remove. A cheap scoot to maintain in comparrison to above mentioned.
enjoy your looking
Kiwiscoot
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Post by ootscoot on Sept 14, 2010 8:39:37 GMT -5
Hang in there with the aftershocks, Kiwi. After living in Hawaii (Big Island) for awhile, it became a way of life...
My wrist is fine now, out of the cast and onto the bike. - I was riding a SYMBA for a bit; no left hand lever, it's a 4 speed semi-automatic, also a blast to ride!
But now back on the Citycom - 4500 mi trouble free and fun
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 14, 2010 16:57:40 GMT -5
Hang in there with the aftershocks, Kiwi. After living in Hawaii (Big Island) for awhile, it became a way of life... My wrist is fine now, out of the cast and onto the bike. - I was riding a SYMBA for a bit; no left hand lever, it's a 4 speed semi-automatic, also a blast to ride! But now back on the Citycom - 4500 mi trouble free and fun Thanks for that. Glad to hear everything has mended. enjoy your scooting Kiwiscoot |
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 19, 2010 17:28:07 GMT -5
Well the scoot will have it's 2nd birthday at the end of the month and had it's 22 000km service this weekend and a good clean and polish - it got a real birthday.
I am impressed with the following:
1.) the gearbox oil looked like the day I put it in 20 000kms ago, clear, looked like it could do another 20 000kms. I used synthetic Castrol.
2.) the engine has no oil leaks and looks like the day it left the factory.
3.) All the screws, plugs, oil seals that are disturbed during maintenance work are still factory original.
4.) It uses no oil at all.
5.) even with all year use in all sorts of weather there is no rust on the scoot that I've seen anywhere.
6.) going over the paint I was impressed as it only has a handful of stone chips even tho we have stone grit put on our roads in winter due to black ice.
7.) I was again impressed at how easy maintenance is - at the most 30 minutes. No plastic that needs to be removed.
8.) I checked the valve clearance at 10 000kms and it was still spot on. Most mechanics with SYM experience I've spoken too and read about all say that they have never had a SYM that needed it's valves adjusted. I did not check the valves, but I'll keep a good watch for any noises from them, I'll check them then. At the moment they are as quiet as the day I got the scoot.
9.) cheap consumables like brake pads
I've put a 1200kms on the new foam air-filter and it looks like it should last at least 4000kms between cleans. I'm very happy with this mod as it feels like the scoots has more up and go at open road conditions. It gives the scoot a nice throaty idle of a single engine too - I like.
smile your miles = SYM
kiwiscoot
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Post by palhacinho on Sept 20, 2010 18:19:56 GMT -5
There is website that sells parts for citycom300?
What?
Thak you very much
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 20, 2010 20:48:09 GMT -5
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 20, 2010 20:55:23 GMT -5
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Post by jim63 on Sept 20, 2010 23:21:51 GMT -5
Congrats on the 22k milestone on the SYM. Still looks really good in your pics. The high mileage is a testament to the build quality and the care given by the owner, well done.
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Post by madoka on Sept 21, 2010 17:52:50 GMT -5
I am a new Citycom owner as of today thanks partly to this thread!  Just finished my MSF basic rider course (on a motorcycle) this weekend and purchased a slightly used 2009 black Citycom as my first 2 wheeled ride from our local dealer this morning. Only 346 miles on it! When I was researching which scooter to buy, I found this thread and read it all the way through. I was really impressed by the quality, reliability, performance, and attractive pricing which you all have spoken highly of. So when I found this one, I just had to jump on it! Soooo excited! I am a 38 yo new lady rider from the San Francisco Bay Area in California. Nice to meet you all!  |
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Post by palhacinho on Sept 22, 2010 5:09:58 GMT -5
Do you have a Citycom?? Kiwiscoot I do not have. I plan to buy. I am researching to find out the cost of maintenance. Sorry my english, I'm using google translator. Just understand Portuguese. See ya! |
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Post by larrygebraski on Sept 24, 2010 16:30:30 GMT -5
Does anyone know the diameter of the 300i handlebars? I want to purchase softer grips but am not sure of the proper size.
Thanx!
Larry
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 24, 2010 22:05:38 GMT -5
Madoka - congrats, you'll love it and should give you years of "miles of smiles". SYM stands for Smile your Miles.
Kiwiscoot
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Sept 24, 2010 22:13:41 GMT -5
I do not have. I plan to buy. I am researching to find out the cost of maintenance. Sorry my english, I'm using google translator. Just understand Portuguese. See ya! Good you do well. Maintenance very cheap: 1.) oil change = 1 liter every 3000 km (me do it every 2000 km) 2.) No oil filter - you save there 3.) air filter - every 10 000-12 000 km $62 ( New Zealand dollars) 4.) brakes - every 10 000-12 000 km - use cheap brake pads. $20 5.) tires - every 12 000 - 15 000 km $250 ( New Zealand Dollars) for a set for front and back 6.) drive belt - 15000 - 20 000 km - $200 ( New Zealand dollars) Hope this helps Kiwiscoot |
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Just finished my MSF basic rider course (on a motorcycle) this weekend and purchased a slightly used 2009 black Citycom as my first 2 wheeled ride from our local dealer this morning. Only 346 miles on it! When I was researching which scooter to buy, I found this thread and read it all the way through. I was really impressed by the quality, reliability, performance, and attractive pricing which you all have spoken highly of. So when I found this one, I just had to jump on it! Soooo excited!