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Post by rollins244 on Jul 19, 2011 21:33:37 GMT -5
I was wondering about permits? Can someone in Maine still drive a 50cc scoot on the road with a valid permit? I've looked around and haven't found the answer. I'm assuming yes.
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Post by Adam on Jul 23, 2011 12:00:57 GMT -5
New Hampshire- All you need is a Valid drivers License and it must get registered. $3 whole dollars to register it, you get a couple plates and your all set. You either want insurance or not. But having insurance it would be a good idea.  |
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Post by D-cat on Jul 23, 2011 15:09:57 GMT -5
Hi Adam,
I keep having to chime in about NH (I have a thorough post a couple pages back).
A drivers license is all that's required IF:
-under 50cc
-under 2.2 BHP
-can only do up to 30 MPH
I have the RSA numbers all laid out in a previous post in this thread.
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Post by scooterguru702 on Jul 25, 2011 18:25:23 GMT -5
Nevada has a law that says you must insure and register any motorbike 50cc or bigger just like a car. That's why we buy these cheapy tao tao's and bbk the scoots the death. loop hole.. Attachments:
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Post by kathy on Jul 27, 2011 18:59:12 GMT -5
In Indiana the law defines a vehicle as a motorized bicycle or moped only it it meets all of the specs:
It has 2 or 3 wheels. It is propelled by an engine of no more than 2 horsepower. Is less than 50cc. It has an automatic transmission. HAS A MAXIMUM SPEED OF 25 MILES PER HOUR. I met all the requirements except 25 miles per hour. I have a VESPA LX 50 and I have to get it plated. I also have to get a mc endorsement and insurance. I went to 2 different BMV's and both said the same thing. I see scooters and mopeds everyday keeping up with traffic in my town and I know the speed limit is between 30 and 35 mph. So, how many actually go under 25 mph? I just want to drive it to work, 5 miles away. I'm going to look awful silly going to a motorcycle class on a scooter! I have to go to the Harley Davidson class site. I can hardly wait. lol I love riding my scooter, so I'm doing what I have to to make it legal.
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Post by kawalaphoto on Jul 29, 2011 20:53:28 GMT -5
Does anyone here know what the laws are if you live in a State where you need nothing (NC) and are riding across State Lines. I am making a Ride from North Carolina to Massachusetts in a few days on my 50cc Hyosung Scooter.
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Post by D-cat on Jul 30, 2011 19:53:56 GMT -5
That has been a question posed that has yet to be answered. My advice is to contact the state police in each state you plan to ride through and ask them. Please let us know what you find out.
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Post by kawalaphoto on Jul 30, 2011 20:29:00 GMT -5
Thanks D-Cat... I have done some of that today and learned that as long as I have my ID or License from NC and I am not moving to the State I can ride through with no problems. I must abide by all the laws of each State ie, speed limit is 25, I have to stick to 25. If I am stopped I must be able to show proof that I am a resident of North Carolina. I will be sure to start a Thread with some of the images from my trip.
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Post by daddy2002 on Aug 2, 2011 22:16:01 GMT -5
I live in indiana and here no license or anything to have one under 50cc
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Post by daddy2002 on Aug 2, 2011 22:20:10 GMT -5
In Indiana the law defines a vehicle as a motorized bicycle or moped only it it meets all of the specs: It has 2 or 3 wheels. It is propelled by an engine of no more than 2 horsepower. Is less than 50cc. It has an automatic transmission. HAS A MAXIMUM SPEED OF 25 MILES PER HOUR. I met all the requirements except 25 miles per hour. I have a VESPA LX 50 and I have to get it plated. I also have to get a mc endorsement and insurance. I went to 2 different BMV's and both said the same thing. I see scooters and mopeds everyday keeping up with traffic in my town and I know the speed limit is between 30 and 35 mph. So, how many actually go under 25 mph? I just want to drive it to work, 5 miles away. I'm going to look awful silly going to a motorcycle class on a scooter! I have to go to the Harley Davidson class site. I can hardly wait. lol I love riding my scooter, so I'm doing what I have to to make it legal. I live in bedford indiana and i have a roketa maui 50gl and go about 40 on it and the cops have seen me and i have passed them and they do nothing to me but as you know cops are differnt from town to town |
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Post by nitro50ct on Aug 5, 2011 9:58:20 GMT -5
In Connecticut you have to have a valid driver's license. No registration, no insurance, buy it and ride. Mopeds cannot go on defined turnpikes or highways (not counting a reguar road called ___ tpke or ___ hwy). That's about it.
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Post by drflingerflonger on Aug 13, 2011 10:07:58 GMT -5
I am in British Columbia Canada. I just bought a 50cc Saga scooter.
Needed insurance, driving license and small plate. cost me $150.00 for registration, sales tax, plate and 6 months insurance, (PLPD fire and theft), But the scoot is not speed restricted to under 30 mph. actually the dealer retro fitted a performance CDI yesterday and I hit 50 mph on the flat coming home after. My wife was behind me in the car and clocked it. The speedo on the scoot only goes to 70 Kph (around 42 MPH) I am also going to try some different things to boost power on the up hill climbs after the warrantee is up.
Also need a DOT approved helmet here
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Post by darknight73 on Aug 17, 2011 1:18:29 GMT -5
150s need to be the limit everywhere, 50 aint cuttin it for my butt up hills. unsafe at that point, and EVERYWHERE is a hill round here to go anywhere.
you need the powah to get out of some of these moe-rons on the road.
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Post by revweasel on Aug 25, 2011 23:14:51 GMT -5
150s need to be the limit everywhere, 50 aint cuttin it for my butt up hills. unsafe at that point, and EVERYWHERE is a hill round here to go anywhere. you need the powah to get out of some of these moe-rons on the road. so this everywhere you speak of includes islands, small towns, or villages where the speed limit on all the roads is 30 or less? and as far as the big hills go, i go a block over and avoid them all together. the speed limit from home to work is 20mph, to the stores it is 30. so i guess i need to run out and buy a much larger and heavier machine to do the same work at the same speeds with less MPG!!! right now my 50cc bike weighs almost the exact same as i do. 1/1 vehicle to pass weight. throw on a passenger and some cargo that can get close to 1/2. this is a bad thing i guess! my wife who has never driven a car (city folk) but can handle a bicycle, needs transportation too. she is afraid to drive a motorcycle (12HP is just tooooo much for some people) so a 3HP 50cc is just about perfect for someone like her. you speak for a lot of people there and i dont think you represent those you are speaking for. sounds a lot like congress! |
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Post by Scoot Tech on Aug 26, 2011 15:06:45 GMT -5
There is talk that by fall of this year we scoot riding Hoosiers (Indiana folk) will have to be insured and plated. Does not make sence if an individual w/o a license cant get insurance. As of now there are no limits to speeds.
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Post by k9time on Aug 30, 2011 1:02:13 GMT -5
north carolina all we have to do is wear a helmet as long as its under 50 cc and we don t exceed 45 mph. state is hot on changing to what I m not sure. k9time
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Post by k9time on Aug 30, 2011 1:12:19 GMT -5
need to add to north carolina. no interstate travel. no tag fee , no insurance , no title fee and no taxes unless you hit 50cc
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Post by onewheeldrive on Aug 30, 2011 1:24:54 GMT -5
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Post by Scooter Elements on Aug 30, 2011 9:04:49 GMT -5
Puerto Rico Scooter laws. regarless weither its 50cc or 1,000cc you at all times must have Helmets, Boots, Long pants, Gloves, Eye protection, and after 6pm regardless if its sunny or night time must wear reflective vest and some type of long sleeve shirt or jacket. Since these laws were put in place it has killed the scooter bussiness!
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Post by Scooter Elements on Aug 30, 2011 9:05:21 GMT -5
oh and have a motorcycle license!
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Post by shadowwalker on Aug 30, 2011 19:57:56 GMT -5
150s need to be the limit everywhere, 50 aint cuttin it for my butt up hills. unsafe at that point, and EVERYWHERE is a hill round here to go anywhere. you need the powah to get out of some of these moe-rons on the road. so this everywhere you speak of includes islands, small towns, or villages where the speed limit on all the roads is 30 or less? and as far as the big hills go, i go a block over and avoid them all together. the speed limit from home to work is 20mph, to the stores it is 30. so i guess i need to run out and buy a much larger and heavier machine to do the same work at the same speeds with less MPG!!! right now my 50cc bike weighs almost the exact same as i do. 1/1 vehicle to pass weight. throw on a passenger and some cargo that can get close to 1/2. this is a bad thing i guess! my wife who has never driven a car (city folk) but can handle a bicycle, needs transportation too. she is afraid to drive a motorcycle (12HP is just tooooo much for some people) so a 3HP 50cc is just about perfect for someone like her. you speak for a lot of people there and i dont think you represent those you are speaking for. sounds a lot like congress! What the hell are you blathering on about? All he was implying is that the delineation between scooter and motorcycle should be upped to 150cc rather than 50cc. His reasoning was that it would be beneficial for larger people and/or people who live in an area that is over-taxing for a normal 50cc. This in no way would affect you nor your wife. Climb down off the soap box. |
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Post by auroracolorado on Aug 31, 2011 12:03:17 GMT -5
Colorado Low-Power Sccoter Registration requires: primarily use on roadways with no more than three wheels in contact with ground; no manual clutch; and either less than 50cc or4,476 wattage.
You have to have ownership paper (nill of sale, invoice).
Cost $5.75 for three years.
And yes you need minimal insurance, about $15/YR... but I got uninsured insurance too for under $100/YR.
Top speed is limited to 30MPH and you can get a ticket for any of the above.
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Post by Pony66 on Sept 2, 2011 19:14:17 GMT -5
Colorado Low-Power Sccoter Registration requires: primarily use on roadways with no more than three wheels in contact with ground; no manual clutch; and either less than 50cc or4,476 wattage. You have to have ownership paper (nill of sale, invoice). Cost $5.75 for three years. And yes you need minimal insurance, about $15/YR... but I got uninsured insurance too for under $100/YR. Top speed is limited to 30MPH and you can get a ticket for any of the above. Hey AuroraColorado, if you search back in this thread, I posted HB09-1026. You got it, but they raised the speed limit on 50cc to 40mph. One also has to have eye protection. Anyone under 18 must wear a helmet. |
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Post by savy09 on Sept 7, 2011 13:17:29 GMT -5
kawalaphoto,
Curious, what 50cc friendly roads are you taking thru NC, VA, MD, DE, NJ, NY, CT, NH, MA ? That's a lot of states with different laws for that scoot. I'm interested in a similar trip to SC.-- Savy
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Post by chakra on Sept 23, 2011 20:49:09 GMT -5
When gas hits 5.00 a gallon (as the average around the country), I am willing to eat my hat if the DMV's around the country dont start requiring LOTS more taxable regulations on scooters. If the taxes they are getting on cars starts to go down, they will find a way to tax other things to make up for it.I don't see this happening in any state that has an extended cold season with lots of wind or snow because most people will still keep a car around for those occasions. However I can see states charging us simply to line their coffers a little more to make up some shortfalls on their budget for other endeavors. Those in the southern states and Hawaii most likely will see these first if it starts to become more like Europe and Asia. I can also see them adding a licensing requirement as well for additional bureaucracy and fee based revenue generation. Government tends to like to expand and grow unnecessarily at the expense of the public, this is a pretty easy way for them to generate more revenue under the guise of fighting against drunken driving and for the safety of teenagers, in other words to put in another policy under false political pretenses. |
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Post by scootercapecod on Sept 24, 2011 12:39:10 GMT -5
Massachusetts Scooter riders BEWARE! My friend got a letter in the mail stating that his scooter was "improperly registered" because they were "provided information" that his scooter can go faster than the legal limit of 30 MPH. Mind you that they changed the laws for scooters in Aug. 2010 and at the time both of our scoots were legally registered until Dec. of this year. Now for some reason they have determined that HIS scooter is somehow illegally registered BUT I have a similar make and model and I have not received any such letter. Just beware that yet again the RMV is looking to soak more of your $$$ out of you. Here's how the New Law works:
a motorized bicycle as defined by these rules is: a vehicle who's engine does not exceed 50 cc and which cannot exceed 30 MPH on a flat level surface.
a motorcycle is based on the following: any vehicle that exceeds 50 cc and/or can exceed 30 MPH on a flat level surface. Registering these scooters has 3 categories. 1: Moped (as defined above) 2: Limited Use Vehicle: As defined a limited use vehicle is a scooter, moped or other motorized bicycle that can exceed 30 MPH but cannot exceed 39 MPH on a flat level surface. And finally 3: Motorcycle:As defined above as any vehicle having the ability to exceed 39 MPH and/or has a displacement of over 50 cc.
I hope that clarifies things a bit, I also forgot to mention that you must now get insurance for any scooter and the ins. companies our requiring an MC endorsement to buy a policy. Unfair and of course THEY get rich off of it!
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Post by kalidasa on Sept 24, 2011 16:03:54 GMT -5
Massachusetts, i got the same letter too from RMV and was infuriated and extremely upset at liberties being taken away so easily by the state. The scoot has been registered as a moped since 2008 and earlier this year when I was at RMV, lady at the counter pulled up the pdf on the website which has the LUV list...and listed my model at 31mph...I also found the scoot is titled incorrectly with a missing alphabet, the bill of sale says it is a shenke yy50t-20 and RMV claims it is YY50qt-20(maybe they are right)...however, I bought this back in 2008 not wanting motorcycle license, insurance and all hassles.
The scooter has a metal plate listing it as a JONWAY.
Is there anything that I can do to continue driving the scooter or will I have to sell it...it sucks to do all of the above and be on a 50cc. I would rather be on a motorcycle.
The letter does say if I prove to RMV that it is indeed fits a definition of moped, they will let me keep it.
Seriously, the scoot struggles on plain roads to go to the max speed of 30mph, forget uphills, i cant do more than 20mph...downhills, yeah i can crank...so, any way i can convince RMV?
any help appreciated
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Post by chrisjustin on Sept 26, 2011 20:12:12 GMT -5
so people from missouri... you have to have a license but dont have to register the scoot as long as its under 50cc. because i talked to an officer he said no license, no registration, no insurance, cant exceed 35 mph...  |
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Post by chaz12 on Sept 26, 2011 21:02:38 GMT -5
Missouri 49cc scooter laws- Must have class F license( a car license), no plates, no insurance, don't have to wear helmet, must not propel a person fast than 30 mph,
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Post by freedomscoot on Sept 27, 2011 10:19:46 GMT -5
so people from missouri... you have to have a license but dont have to register the scoot as long as its under 50cc. because i talked to an officer he said no license, no registration, no insurance, cant exceed 35 mph... NEVER rely on cops for legal info- most of them are idiots- and the rest are liars. Find the actual statutes for your state....because regardless of what anyone tells you, if you ever need to go to court, it is what's on the books that will determine your innocence or guilt- they won't care what cop or the chief of police or the county clerk told you...even if you could prove they said it. Here in KY: Regular driver's lic; No plates; no insurance; no helmet - under 50cc and "not designed to go more than 30MPH". Recently got conflicting info from the county clerk- "Can't exceed 35MPH and must be under 2.4HP". Either they changed the statutes and haven't updated the online version yet...or (more likely) the county clerk (our "DMV") is wrong. |
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