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Post by wpod on May 2, 2008 21:10:20 GMT -5
HI! The 18 wheeler brought it today and no damage-WooHoo!. packing from china was pretty good on this one. this ones not the clearest, but it's the bolt that holds the handlebars to the steering stem-this is where the improvisation started... OK here we have the fix for a bolt that you could strip with your finger tips! I mean this was BAD! The stock metric(?) bolt was replaced with a 351w intake stud that was just laying around, and with a healthy dose of torque and some 271 loctite the steering is nice and tite! installed... here's a chinese bike on a chinese bike jack-worked nicely Here's where I take issue with posts that talk about Starting fluid-BAD DOG!- and minutes of cranking on the electric starter. I filled the float bowl with this simple setup, put a splash in the tank and started the scoot on the second kick with NO battery!!! my final impression is that the carb is "EPA lean" and I intend to correct that ASAP! more to come as I get the chance. If you look at the photo you'll see a distraction in the background that may cause this project to be delayed from time to time...
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Post by dtwscooter on May 2, 2008 21:55:54 GMT -5
You have the same scooter I recently got! I'm keeping close tab on your thread to compare notes. Will chime!
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Post by mcmama on May 2, 2008 23:00:42 GMT -5
We have this scooter too, and love it! Can you post a picture of the carb, and which are the adjustment screws - ie air, gas, etc Thanks, MCMAMA
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Post by norm74 on May 3, 2008 9:36:45 GMT -5
"Here's where I take issue with posts that talk about Starting fluid-BAD DOG!- and minutes of cranking on the electric starter. I filled the float bowl with this simple setup, put a splash in the tank and started the scoot on the second kick with NO battery!!!"
Sorry to hear they didn't send the battery. Yes, I'm kidding.
Nice scooter, can't wait to see it up on the back wheel motoring down the GSP!
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Post by wpod on May 3, 2008 10:15:17 GMT -5
HI! here's the idle mixture screw, its located on the left side right behind the intake boot here's the bowl drain-screw in bottom. then remove the cvt cover bolt that holds it on top view of carb, disconnect that vacuum line on the diaphragm cover and take the 2 bottom bolts out of the airbox mounting tabs. now you can flip the carb over and get at the float bowl screws not the greatest photo, but you can see that the high jet is the main and the one in the well is the pilot the main is the short one and the pilot is the long one. stock jetting is 102 on the main and 35 on the pilot. I've read that 120 main and 38 pilot works well on a stock scooter so we'll try that first. I suspect that the needle also needs to be raised but that can be done with the carb installed...that's all for now-off to buy jets!
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Post by wpod on May 3, 2008 11:32:54 GMT -5
"Here's where I take issue with posts that talk about Starting fluid-BAD DOG!- and minutes of cranking on the electric starter. I filled the float bowl with this simple setup, put a splash in the tank and started the scoot on the second kick with NO battery!!!" Sorry to hear they didn't send the battery. Yes, I'm kidding. Nice scooter, can't wait to see it up on the back wheel motoring down the GSP! I see your familiar with my neighborhood-not sure how much parkway miles the GF wants to do on a 150! This is her "beginners" bike which may have a long role in that capacity assuming no major mechanical meldowns. She really wants a Vespa but since I bought her this machine she's happy for now-and thats always a good thing
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Post by wpod on May 3, 2008 18:47:08 GMT -5
HI! ok, I got a 38 and 40 pilot as well as a 115 main(they didn't have the 120) ,But no worries, Mains can be drilled successfully provided you use a sharp 135deg. split tip (or any good Ti oxide coated bit) and make ONE clean pass with a pin vise or a lathe. A 120 is 1.2mm or .047", which is 3/64ths.
On the pilot circuit the idle mixture screw had little effect which indicates an undersize pilot. Once the correct pilot is installed the mixture screw should have a pronounced effect on idle quality. For now the motor and exhaust are staying stock so that will be my tuning target. I'll report back after testing. mike
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Post by wpod on May 3, 2008 21:41:25 GMT -5
HI! rejet complete, I drilled the stock main jet with a 3/64" bit on the lathe since the dealer didn't have a 120. they did have the 38 pilot which I installed as well. Consider this rejet a MUST if you want your stock scoot to run well-I can't overstate the improvement in throttle response and torque, for instance I picked up an indicated 5mph (by speedo) on the street up to my house which gains 45 ft. in 2 blocks to give an idea of the grade. The electric enrichner remains an annoyance but the bike can now be ridden away within seconds of startup. Conditions for this test were 50deg.F outside temp at ~80ft. above sea level.
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Post by mcmama on May 3, 2008 23:34:41 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the pictures! I'm new to scooters. I want to adjust the carb to run a little smoother. It's brand new. Any suggestions: -The idle seems to stick a bit -It's a bit rough on initial acceleration, up to 15mph, then smooths out. -When I first ran the engine, some white smoke was coming out of the exhaust.
Thanks again - MCMAMA
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Post by dtwscooter on May 4, 2008 21:20:32 GMT -5
Excellent post. Please keep the information and your impression coming. One karma coming your way. ;D
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Post by wpod on May 5, 2008 17:22:51 GMT -5
HI! And thanks for the kind words! I'll be looking into the drive to see what type of belt it has and also change the transmission oil. I already changed the engine oil at 5 miles and I plan to change it again at 50 or so. On the first change there were the typical aluminum flecks in the filter screen but not a huge amount-guess I should have taken a pic...AND speaking of pics, here's the reason I've been distracted from the ITA150-A new toy that's somewhat addictive-I hear it calling me now (Ride ME! Ride ME!) mike
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Post by wpod on May 6, 2008 5:52:23 GMT -5
HI! Very strange thing happened>when I first got the scoot the starer button didn't work, so I took off the headlight/headlight valence and I found that the wires to the start button were never connected. Simple fix-just plug in the connector-and that was it, it worked fine......
Then a day later the bike would crank when you hit the start button(you have to hold the brake to enable cranking) But it would not start! No spark! Now the bike would still start with the kickstarter or with the remote (push the unlock button twice and then the "lightning bolt" button twice) But NOT with the thumb button!
Fast Forward to next day>As I'm calling ScooterDepot to see if anyone in their TechSupport dept. has encountered this, I test the various starting methods and to my surprise the thumb button works now! Since i'd already called, I stayed on the horn and spoke with Cody, who was knowledgeable and helpful and told me that they had some alarm controller issues (not many) and he could get me a replacement if the problem reoccurs. In the meantime I'm going to run it as is and go from there. mike
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Post by Robvious on May 6, 2008 11:02:35 GMT -5
HI! And thanks for the kind words! I'll be looking into the drive to see what type of belt it has and also change the transmission oil. I already changed the engine oil at 5 miles and I plan to change it again at 50 or so. On the first change there were the typical aluminum flecks in the filter screen but not a huge amount-guess I should have taken a pic...AND speaking of pics, here's the reason I've been distracted from the ITA150-A new toy that's somewhat addictive-I hear it calling me now (Ride ME! Ride ME!) mike oooooh! is that an mp3? NICE! im gonna buy my mom one of those. she wants a Goldwing... lol. Ill feel much better with her on 3 wheels. how do you like it so far? how long have you had it?
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Post by isawhim on May 6, 2008 14:10:30 GMT -5
The alarm over-rides the starter. If the bike was started with the alarm, it needs to be shut-off with the alarm. (That is an alarm issue, design by nature. Like valet parking. If someone steals your bike.)
The alarm also can be used for an emergency KILL, if someone drives off with your scooter.
Love the added detail, that I had not touched on. (I am still running completely stock.)
You may get that annoying oil-vapor build-up in your filter at high speeds. It will drip out of your air filter. (I am looking into a resolution for that, one that does not require blocking the valve cover vent, and still keeps the bike emissions legal. Thinking about a compressor oil/water separator canister being in-line.)
You might also want to secure the air-filter screen with two screws on the sides. The stupid melted plastic tabs snapped off, and got sucked into my carb. Mount the screws on the other side, so the threads hold the screen in place, not the screw heads. You don't want the screws to come loose, and get sucked into the carb!
Not sure why they melted the poles as the mount, on the inside? That is one negative point for xingyue. (LOL, Woot, I found a negative thing, for once!)
Oh, and torque down your exhaust bolts.
Funny that you had a problem with that bolt. (Are you sure you had the correct bolt? Mine was the bolt that held the rear rack in place. It was not the bolt in the package of bolts. Seems they recycled it, in mine.)
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Post by wpod on May 6, 2008 18:23:45 GMT -5
HI! To robvious, I have just over 100 miles on the mp3 and I love it! Everything they say is true, it's a blast to ride! within the first 20 miles I was grinding the centerstand at will-this thing is SO confidence inspiring in the turns it's like cheating! I will say this-I rode a 250 and the 500 just blows it away-after the 500 I would find the 250 sorely lacking.
To isawhim, I'm familiar with the alarm logic, yet this was an intermittent issue unrelated to the remote-it seems to have "cured" itself for now-time will tell if there's a problem. Thanks for the filter tips, I'll look into that ASAP. As for the steering head bolt, I think the reason it stripped so easily was because the nut that was welded on the bar yoke was "double tapped" or just galled up with a dull tap and what was left just ripped out and rounded off the threads on the bolt at the same time.
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Post by dtwscooter on May 9, 2008 23:08:56 GMT -5
Say it isn't so - that you are not updating this post anymore Just when things were getting interesting ;D
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Post by isawhim on May 10, 2008 1:05:53 GMT -5
He must be driving it now!
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Post by wpod on May 10, 2008 2:00:21 GMT -5
HI! No worries! I'll have more to spout-I was thinkin' second impressions though...
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Post by johnd on May 10, 2008 14:56:44 GMT -5
WPOD Just picked up my 150t on wed. I also notice handlebars were loose. gave the bolt a turn but it sure feels like it will strip real easy. i might use your manifold bolt trick instead of fooling with it. i like the jet swap . im thinking of doing it.
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Post by wpod on May 12, 2008 18:12:33 GMT -5
HI! Figured i'd post a pic...
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Post by dtwscooter on May 28, 2008 15:55:42 GMT -5
** Bump **
Looking for an update : )
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Post by wpod on May 28, 2008 18:28:34 GMT -5
HI!
Actually wish I had something worthwhile to say! The GF's been riding it and hasn't had a problem to report...I know, way BORING! On the plus side she hasn't dropped it yet! And I've been riding my MP3...wish I had something more constructive to add!
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Post by glasuan on May 28, 2008 19:14:30 GMT -5
I'll have updates on this scooter for you guys soon. I have an exhaust, intake, jets, variator and rollers to put on mine this weekend, we'll see what i can get out of this sucker.
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Post by dtwscooter on May 29, 2008 10:50:14 GMT -5
We(I) are update starved here ;D wpod or glasuan, please post soon.
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Post by bkbroiler on Jun 1, 2008 22:54:22 GMT -5
I'm seriously thinking of pulling the trigger and buying one of these. I took one out yesterday for a test drive and it seemed fine. The only problem is that the one I tested was already sold (to the owner of the scooter store!) and they are not planning on getting more as they are focused on Tank and Roketa. So I would be buying this online.
For you owners, are there any good reasons that I shouldn't get this scooter? I'm not afraid to turn a wrench. Also, do you guys think that I should use the hard break in?
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Post by wpod on Jun 2, 2008 10:51:08 GMT -5
HI!
I think it's a decent scoot for the price. Rejet, dump the stock oil and run it hard! It'd be good to read the delivery inspection thread here so you'll know what potential problems you should be aware of. No problems so far with mine.
mike
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Post by dtwscooter on Jun 2, 2008 11:12:00 GMT -5
Mike, Since you and I have the same scooter, care to state your fuel economy and accuracy of your odometer? I'd like to compare notes.
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Post by wpod on Jun 2, 2008 20:14:51 GMT -5
Hi dtw,
I can't honestly report on either since I've pretty much turned it over to the GF. I do buzz around the neighborhood on it every week or so to make sure nothing's amiss-nothing against women, but mine isn't particularly observant when it comes to things mechanical. She is still pretty conservative so I would guess her mileage would be better than average, but I can tell you it's better than my Fuoco. That beast returned 34 mpg on the last tank, and my best so far was 48 or so. I'll see about ODO accuracy next time I ride it.
mike
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Post by jspringator on Jun 2, 2008 20:47:39 GMT -5
I just bought a gray one from Scootertronics. I got the ready to ride option for $99, so I shoudn't have too much assembly to do. I will change the oil when I get it. Should I use synthetic right off the bat?
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Post by rolyats on Jun 2, 2008 21:37:36 GMT -5
Most post suggest that you do not use synthetic for the initial oil change. Do a "synthetic oil" search and check some of the threads.
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