Post by scooterollie on Dec 22, 2007 8:16:08 GMT -5
Bill; Most specs given on websites overestimate many things, including top speed. I have never attempted to determine top speed on my Linhai 300 but from what I gather, you can count on 75, maybe 80. If you want a consistent and reliable 85, with a little reserve, better plan on a 400 cc scoot. While this 275 cc, 4 valve engine has noticeably more power than the typical 250, I would not count on it for an Interstate cruiser. Not good to run a machine at wot for long distances, anyway.
what is the best scooter to get the 300cc or the 400cc most of my driveing time is in the city 75% and the other 25% is highway from my home to my brother home is about 50 miles all highway
I have one now a 250cc viva touring edition top speed is 75mph it will hold at 70mph I need one it can do 75mph to 80mph and have some reserve and be good to drive in the city from looking around there is a 18hp and a 22hp for the 300cc i will still need to know the top speed for the 300cc
Post by scooterollie on Dec 23, 2007 2:31:02 GMT -5
Bill; What you are seeing about HP variations for the Linhai 300 are just incorrect specs. Initially, the 300 was listed on websites as 22 HP but now is being listed as 18 HP - probably much more accurate. That is about 2 HP more than the CFMoto 247 cc engine. The engine in the Linhai 300 also is supposed to have a 4 valve head.
As yopu describe your needs, I feel that a 400 cc would be best for you. The Yamaha Majesty is 400 cc and very similar to the Linhai 300. When I say "very similar", I mean that the Linhai is derived from the Yamaha and that the current Majesty 400 is a more advanced form with fuel injection. You will also have the benefit of a large dealership network behind you, if you go with the Yamaha. Tires on the Majesty are slightly larger and will give you better stability at high speed. The majesty is only slightly larger and heavier than the Linhai so it should still be a nimble city scoot.
Several folks here on the forum have a Majesty and speak very highly of them.
I owned a Majesty for several months this summer and found it to be the usual Yamaha. By that I mean I have owned many different Yamaha product over the years and have never been disappointed with any of them and the Majesty was no exception. I performed very well on the interstate. Was very nimble around town and gave me a consistent 60+mpg to boot. I added the factory top case so the storage was great. My only issue was riding to up with my wife I was not able to get her comfortable for the long hall. I added the backrest for the top and even did some shade engineering to add the factory backrest. I did get her back well supported but the bottom cushion did not quite cut it.
When we started to examine after market seat option the prices caused us to looked elsewhere for the solution. We found the answer in a Yamaha V Star. Another testament to Yamaha quality and value retention was the fact that they allowed me almost all of what I paid for the Majesty on the trade while discounting the V Star besides.
I hope this helps.
Monty57 Yamaha 450 Rhino SE 06 Miata 07 Yamaha V Star Classic
Post by YellowScooter on Dec 23, 2007 7:31:28 GMT -5
The speeds you are looking for will not be found in anything made in china. In reality, the only scoots that are really at home on the interstate are the maxis from the big 3. Yamaha Honda Suzuki Trust me, I hunted, searched, scrounged, and scoured the internet from start to finish hoping beyond all hoping there were something good for interstate travel at the chinese steal-me-prices, but unfortuatly, if ya ain't got the $5k entry fee, you gotta stay off the interstates or hold the motor at full twist and run the risk of blowing the motor clean off long before you get across any state line.
Hi folks, I am fairly new to the forum, have posted a few times this will be the first post of any substance. I can't figure out why most of you guys keep pushing for the bigger scoots, 400cc and up, for interstate riding. I agree there is more speed bang with the bigger scoots, but how many of you will be doing those speeds on the interstates? In 1993 and 1994 I owned a helix. Took the little bugger each of those years from Cody Wy to Tahoe Calif, to Landcaster Ca. to Vegas and back to Cody. You can imagine the hours me and it spent on those interstates, including cal 99, between Fresno and Bakersfield. It easily kept up with traffic. I kept the speed at about 67 mph with twist left in the throttle. There were no problems at all dealing with any part of interstate travel. I can't imagine any of you Bergman owners going much faster that I did. Wanted to get back into scoots so in the summer of 06 I bought a linhai 300, rode it home from Cody to Lovell (where I live now) and nearly blew myself off of the scoot because of the small hole it cut. Sold the scoot. After a whole lot of research and counting the bucks, I bought a Qlink commuter from Jim at Bandit. I feel that is the best bang for the buck and plenty fast for any two lane or interstate riding I will do. And more important, I will be back to the Helix ride only on a clone. If you want to go fast and have a huge top end, buy a bike.
geetee, I too struggled with the choice of going to a bigger scoot. I love the look of the Helix, but the price of the clones stopped me. When I spotted the used Burger I could not pass it up . This scoot was as close to new as one could get. Plus having a dealer 20 minutes away was a big plus , should I ever need one. I own a Strada Eurojet also, I love this scoot, but the Suzuki is hands down so much more scoot. I can run with my Harley buddies and have no trouble keeping up!
Post by scooterollie on Dec 24, 2007 9:26:08 GMT -5
I guess it all comes down to preferences and how you feel on a particular scoot. Some folks prefer riding at slower speeds, enjoying the scenery. Others like cruising at high speed. Friend of mine is 74 and has owned many cycles during his life except for the past few years. Recently bought a used Honda Shadow with about 10K miles on it. Tried to talk him into a large scoot but he just enjoys cycles and loves to do high speed distance riding.
Most of my riding is at speeds up to 50 mph but with the Linhai 300 I know I have speed and power to spare. Never plan to do Interstate riding. Don't have to and there are local roads that go to the same places and at more pleasant (to me) speeds. Originally bought the Bali 250 for that purpose but it just was not stable and comfortable (handling-wise) at speeds over 50. The Linhai 300 is a MUCH more stable bike at 50-60 mph. Geetee, maybe one of the taller windshields would have helped you on the 300. It is true, it's design is more like a sport bike in the front with a low, stock windshield.
If you are using your scoot to commute on the Interstate and feel safer with more power, than a heavier, larger wheeled 400+ cc scoot is probably best for you. As others have pointed out, there are several good high end options available used. Probably be the next way I go if I go up in size from the 300. Can't beat the service available almost anywhere from Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda. KYMCO is a great scoot but dealers are much more sparse.
12String- And probable more fun to ride. I see and understand your point in buying the Burger. Price and closeness of a dealer are major considerations. My point with my comments were you don't need a big bore scoot to travel on an interstate. In my case, the comefort and posture the helix riding configuration puts me in is of major importance. Thats the reason I sold the Linhai, I was upright, cutting the wind, not down and forward letting the wind go over me. Now back to the orriginal point. With the experience I have had on a Helix, Goldwing, Venture, and presently a kawasaki vulcan classic, What would I buy to ride on an interstate hwy? And what would I recommend to other riders? It would be the Qlink commuter. It's cheap, easy to maintain, do 70 mph, light weight and easy to manuver. Keep Scooten, Tim
I did put a bigger windscreen on Scooterollie, helped a little but not as much as I liked. And I have to agree with you, to each it's own when it comes to personel preference. I'm getting old (66) and prefer a bit more comfort over speed. Geez, lets face it, if I could ride my recliner down the street I would! Keep Scooten, Tim
I'd like to ditto what geetee says.. If you want to go fast on interstates,, get a bike...BUT remember, bad things happen at high speed ! This past summer, traveling on interstate 86 on my 1100 shadow, behind a F250 p'up, It got airborne (truck).. a wheel and tire came off a semi and truck ran over it.. good thing I was a safe distance behind and got off the road. Me, on a two wheeler would have been toast.
I've done a lot of interstates in the past.. this experience gave me the "willies",, now I stay away from them as much as possible.. We are all aware things can happen,, just sayin at those 70+mph highway speeds.. it happens faster..
If you are looking for any reliability and trying to keep the cost down, you can't beat a Kymco People 250 and the S version. They will easily reach 80 mph and even 85 to 90 mph from what I have read in a view different reviews, cruising at 75 mph should not be a problem either.
The only scoot I would like even more is the Honda SH300i with a verified top speed of 100 mph, but only available in Europe and build by Honda in Italy. This scoot is very similar to the Kymco People 250 S.
geetee, did you consider a used Helix when you were shopping for your 'new ride'? Just curious, as I will be moving up to a highway capable scoot sometime before the price hikes in the spring ( ;d ). From what shopping around I have done, a used Helix with a few miles on it can be had for about the same price as a new Qlink Commuter. I really like the Commuter, and looking into it is how I got into researching the Helix used market... any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated... from anyone that might be informed...
In answer to your question rerun2- I have done a lot of research on availability and prices of a used helix and on new helix clones. Getting it here to Lovell Wy was one of the considerations, there are no used helix's or any Qlink dealers closer than 350 miles. Decided on Bandit motorsports, a dealer for Qlink. Reasons: 1. Didn't like the idea of buying a used helix with 8 to 10 yrs and 5000 to 15000 miles on it, sight unseen. Kind of like wearing someones else's underwear and not knowing where they came from. I would rather have a new one and break it in to my own terms and be willing to put up with whatever idiosyncrasies and failings it has the first time around instead of third or fourth time around. 2. Was concerned about supply and availability of parts and a dealer I could work with. Qlink and Jim at Bandit answered that question. Two years warrenty, parts and labor, and have parts in hand within a week. The Honda parts nework can't meet that. Now the dealer. When I bought my helix (sold it 3 yrs later, had too many toys) I couldn't even SIT on it unless I was over the line serious about buying it. And if I did take it out for a test ride I bought it. I took that chance and never regretted it. My research back then was mostly issues of Scoot Tours quarterly publication. It sure as hell wasn't that prissy Honda dealer. 3. Would the commuter last? That question has to be answered by time. The one peek we all had on longevity was the thread "250 workhorses, what is holding up under abuse" by jollyman. On his Sept 10th and 15th reply's, a little bit of the cat was let out of the bag. Some guy bought one (I would assume it was a CFMoto Fashion, the commuter was not around then) and regularly rode it from Tampa Bay area to the keys with only regular maintenance done on the scoot. He has over 33,000 miles on it. Another good reference about Commuters is solarscootdawg's experiences in the thread, "CFMoto Fashion/Qlink 250 Commuter", Sept 14,2007. 5. Price. Honda can't come near it. I'm willing to bet Honda out sources a lot of the helix parts and most if not all come from China. Hope this helps, GT
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