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Post by leo on Jan 27, 2013 19:09:52 GMT -5
i bet mike and proboards is freaking out at this point. lee is probably scratching his head wondering what he created.
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 27, 2013 19:15:06 GMT -5
ya know
if they woulda just followed the rules and changed it by PRO B's rules there would have been NO hassle what ever so.
he could have moved it to a new site even this vbulletin site etc and kept the dot com addy also i was on the PRO B site,,, 2 girls did about the same thing, took PRO b 12 hours to make the switch etc. ALL they had to do is follow the rules
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Post by wutzthedeal on Jan 27, 2013 19:27:39 GMT -5
Some people just aren't happy unless they're bitchin. Seriously. Those personality types often share two common traits; first, they thrive on drama. If they can't find it, they create. If they can't create it, they are miserable until they find or create it. Secondly, they bitch. Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch. They bitch about free stuff, non-free stuff, people, places, and things. Constantly. Hank, Millsc, and Scootnwinn don't seem to buy into it; for that, I'm proud of you guys. For the rest that enjoy seething in the negativity like a crab in a piss pot, enjoy the bath. I'm going to happy fields with shifting winds and pretty meadows and trees and birds and happy butterflies. Rather, I'm going to the other forum, where talk about scooters, sans spam, seems to dominate the agenda.
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Post by scootnwinn on Jan 27, 2013 19:38:56 GMT -5
One person claims to be getting spam which happens to all of us from time to time this person has also claimed to be people they are not so they have a track record of deception. So you are on the side of greed and corporate america aren't you just want your slice of a poor sick guys tiny pie I don't know how you can expect to be blessed in your endeavors. Almost all if not all forums are not money makers for the admins they do it for the love of the hobby/lifestyle it supports
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Post by leftwayleft2 on Jan 27, 2013 19:39:00 GMT -5
All of this could of been avoided if they just informed us way in advance of their plans. And given us the option of moving to the new site. I personally am happy here and will not be at the other one. I asked that my posts be deleted....yet they are still there they just deleted my account.
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Post by scootnwinn on Jan 27, 2013 19:41:55 GMT -5
I agree advance notice would have been cool
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Post by EPAhater on Jan 27, 2013 19:54:47 GMT -5
i dont see Lee moving my thoughts and views somewhere else to be quite the same situation
Doesn't matter what you and I think but what is fact is Proboards thinks different and they're the one running the show, not Lee and Mike. Hi I may be wrong in this and please correct me if i am But isnt proboards just the land lord of the site? before i bought my own home if was unhappy with where i lived i let my landlord know and i moved some wheres else Is it not the same with this? Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank Oh yes hank but you couldn't sell any of the landlord's stuff! No one said Lee couldn't move but he wants what the landlord has and all the "other" tenants stuff too and BTW he didn't give notice. When moving from a rent house in lots of cases one has a contract and must give a certain amount of notice or they forfeit deposits etc. Doesn't matter how you want to twist it Hank again the landlord is running the show here and he's going to get a new renter you can about bet on that. Question is where the renter moved to here at the new landlords house, how well is it going to hold up? Now that they've lost the link transfer from this forum that comes up on every search engine known to man what is the tenants at the new rent house going to do to keep the water bill paid. Again the sole purpose of that forum is money. Take away the exposure you lose the ones paying the bill. No exposure, no money = dead forum.
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Post by scootnwinn on Jan 27, 2013 19:59:28 GMT -5
EPA Hater is always right do not argue with a man who uses hating as his handle. Are you going to use the other site if it turns out to all be kosher
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Post by leo on Jan 27, 2013 20:11:43 GMT -5
All of this could of been avoided if they just informed us way in advance of their plans. that's it, right there. the internet is a strange place and a sudden "move" like this without lee informing us is the same thing as browser highjacks. people actually start wondering if it's legit. medman, one of the only 2 mods i've seen on here within the last couple of years told me he knew nothing about a "new forum". it's easy to see how all of this can add up to a big question mark. about content: i personally feel the content belongs to the website scootdawg. it does bring up some interesting things though.
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Post by EPAhater on Jan 27, 2013 20:16:55 GMT -5
EPA Hater is always right do not argue with a man who uses hating as his handle. Are you going to use the other site if it turns out to all be kosher Already on the other site, didn't say it was a bad site just that it is on very shaky ground. And as far as my handle goes I've not insulted what you call yourself. Seems that someone disagrees with you then you seem to want to insult what/who they are. I've stated my opinions, haven't in any way said anything wrongly about anyone here who has posted. As far as hate, let's see if you hit your finger with a hammer do you jump up and say "man I love this" or do you say "man I hate hitting my finger" What do you say when someone gets hurt? Some can say "I sure hate that he got hurt" As far as the EPA I hate the things they sometime do example ethanol gas but I don't hate anyone who works for them, don't know anybody who does work for them. Lastly I hate having to explain why I chose my handle to someone who insults me because of it but I don't hate you even if you are wrong.
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Post by scootnwinn on Jan 27, 2013 20:32:45 GMT -5
I didn't insult you I said what I see no matter what any one does even using the things you are quoting to show you you don't let it go. Post an example of your supposed insults I tell people they lie when they're lying don't want to be called a liar don't lie. I said don't argue with someone who identifies themselves with hate as a name for themselves. I am going to take my advice now. You can change your display name you know I'm thinking you like it though.I accept defeat you are right proboards owns this all there is no grey area in internet law terms and conditions are beyond reproach and we should accept lousy moderation that allows garbage threads like this to go past page 1
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Post by inuyasha on Jan 27, 2013 20:32:59 GMT -5
Hi Rob I fail to see what impact this has on you personally, could you elaborate? And what do you hope to accomplish or get by seeing a laywer over this? Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank Hank, first of all my name is Roy, Second they are no longer" lawyers" they are attorneys. It is wrong that lee sold the content of this forum to make money on something that does not belong to him,if he did so. If he has a copyright on the ScootDawg name he has the right to sell that, but not my content. This is not a business it is a free forum for free information. If he did sell the content that was posted we are entitled to a portion of this money. I have to question these individuals morals. They did this in a sneaky way and didn't inform any of us as to what they were doing. They moved my content to another site which I have no desire to be a part of and I consider this as theft. If lee is in bad heath and doesn't have time or energy to run this forum he could have just transferred the administrator account to another individual. What does the person that bought the content of this site stand to gain? I do not know anybody that would invest a lot of money and time without making a profit in the end. I have already read that people who signed up on the other forum is getting spam e-mails. Roy Hi Roy So sorry about that , it was a slip of the keys when i posted the wrong name and i do apoligize I do agree with you that this move was poorly planed and they didnt choose the right way to go about it And as to whether they are called lawyers or attorneys is a matter of semantics Either way i try to stay as far way from them as possible "The trouble with law is lawyers" Clarence Darrow As to the spam one member and one member only posted that they had an uncommon amount of spam no one else did and i have found none in my in box as well The bottom lline is that this is just a scooter forum not Nato or the UN and this will not affect my personal life in the least so i just cant get as worked up over this as some of you, yourself included have Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank
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Post by medman1952 on Jan 27, 2013 20:48:02 GMT -5
I am currently on both sites and I have to admit the other one looks very nice.
I think that instead of stirring the pot we need to see what happens next. On the Proboards Support forum they have posted that they will know something tomorrow after conferring with the legal staff.
What will happen here I do not know. I do know that members can join and participate in any forum they want to. If people do not like it here they should not be here.
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 27, 2013 20:55:04 GMT -5
One person claims to be getting spam which happens to all of us from time to time i saved 'em all. still in the spam folder along with the 23 other e mails in the whole mailbox, which is all i ever received, i get calls not many emails. its a very un used e mail of mine. i can forward 'em all to you BUT i dont want you to have my e mail sorry BUT like i said before, these were all about gucci belts and handbags, other about dresses one about bicycles, JUST like the spam we were getting here. And then being asked to click to go to the 'new' site instead of being redirected automatically to it, which is what most real moves do, having to click was like, idk, a spam bot that was VERY curious
and the deception one of the mods, that is no longer here, wel at least active in a long time , & i got into a PM shouting match at each other i was PMSing , him, i dont know why a mod would say the things he did to another person let alone a woman, we were both very wrong. i got banned BUT i wanted to learn about scoots ive learned alot, i am always learning im on alot of forums, if i want real technical answers, guess where i go? if i wanna read theories , guesses, etc guess where i go? if i wanna go where i feel like im in a 'family' guess where i go?
theres a ton more traffic on here than any site, if you wanna read, learn, make your own guesses, ask advice ya come here so yeppers i came back on here to learn, make some dam good friends, make some enemies, etc etc you know hankers, correct? actually you respect him huh? he a dear friend, he points out when im wrong,but in a tasteful way sometimes in PM not usually tho, you've seen him do it. well i wont speak for him but if you ask him, i think he'll tell you that he respects me , yeppers, for what has been my life and all. Ask him so if im wrong for wanting to be here, well we will,let the new ADMIN make up his/her mind?
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Post by inuyasha on Jan 27, 2013 21:12:19 GMT -5
One person claims to be getting spam which happens to all of us from time to time i saved 'em all. still in the spam folder along with the 23 other e mails in the whole mailbox, which is all i ever received, i get calls not many emails. its a very un used e mail of mine. i can forward 'em all to you BUT i dont want you to have my e mail sorry BUT like i said before, these were all about gucci belts and handbags, other about dresses one about bicycles, JUST like the spam we were getting here. And then being asked to click to go to the 'new' site instead of being redirected automatically to it, which is what most real moves do, having to click was like, idk, a spam bot that was VERY curious
and the deception one of the mods, that is no longer here, wel at least active in a long time , & i got into a PM shouting match at each other i was PMSing , him, i dont know why a mod would say the things he did to another person let alone a woman, we were both very wrong. i got banned BUT i wanted to learn about scoots ive learned alot, i am always learning im on alot of forums, if i want real technical answers, guess where i go? if i wanna read theories , guesses, etc guess where i go? if i wanna go where i feel like im in a 'family' guess where i go?
theres a ton more traffic on here than any site, if you wanna read, learn, make your own guesses, ask advice ya come here so yeppers i came back on here to learn, make some dam good friends, make some enemies, etc etc you know hankers, correct? actually you respect him huh? he a dear friend, he points out when im wrong,but in a tasteful way sometimes in PM not usually tho, you've seen him do it. well i wont speak for him but if you ask him, i think he'll tell you that he respects me , yeppers, for what has been my life and all. Ask him so if im wrong for wanting to be here, well we will,let the new ADMIN make up his/her mind?
Hi I'm a kind courteous and friendly man for the most but, Your my near and dear friend and any one who has a problem with you has a problem with me Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank
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Post by EPAhater on Jan 27, 2013 21:25:03 GMT -5
I didn't insult you I said what I see no matter what any one does even using the things you are quoting to show you you don't let it go. Post an example of your supposed insults I tell people they lie when they're lying don't want to be called a liar don't lie. I said don't argue with someone who identifies themselves with hate as a name for themselves. I am going to take my advice now. You can change your display name you know I'm thinking you like it though.I accept defeat you are right proboards owns this all there is no grey area in internet law terms and conditions are beyond reproach and we should accept lousy moderation that allows garbage threads like this to go past page 1 You can change your display name you know I'm thinking you like it thoughI sure hate it when people try to think what I'm thinking? Don't you? ;D You can change your display name you know You first! ;D I don't hate mine.
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Post by Kiwiscoot on Jan 28, 2013 3:15:56 GMT -5
Boy I'm away a month & look what the dawg pound has gone to. All dawgs snapping & snarling at each other. ;D Advice: 1.) as we say here in Kiwi land "Take a chill pill!" Take a breather - helps to calm down you know. 2.) take that scoot & blow the angry cob webs out - hmm..may be a bit cold in some parts, but I've never seen a hiperthermia person ready for a fight - strange that Now that I've got your attention... which scoot should I get: 1.) red hot mad Italian 2012 Gilera Nexus 500 2.) very sensible 2012 SYM Maxsym 400i 3.) 2008 beautiful blue Yamaha Tmax 500 Nice answers will be considered... ;D Kiwiscoot PS I can send photos on nice requests..
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Post by MEAN_MOTOFINO on Jan 28, 2013 3:56:10 GMT -5
4.) ROKETA 150cc 5.) Tomos 50cc 2t
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Post by flyangler on Jan 28, 2013 8:15:36 GMT -5
Well Kiwi, I know you like the Sym but having owned a Piaggio x9 500 I would say go with the Gilera. BTW, I loved my Citycom but it was a little under powered for my needs.
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Post by rockynv on Jan 28, 2013 12:47:40 GMT -5
All of this could of been avoided if they just informed us way in advance of their plans. that's it, right there. the internet is a strange place and a sudden "move" like this without lee informing us is the same thing as browser highjacks. people actually start wondering if it's legit. medman, one of the only 2 mods i've seen on here within the last couple of years told me he knew nothing about a "new forum". it's easy to see how all of this can add up to a big question mark. about content: i personally feel the content belongs to the website scootdawg. it does bring up some interesting things though. Other sites do change ownership and on those that I belong to the Current Owner introduces the New Owner most time publishing the new owners basic biographics once the deal is struck and then informs the users if there will be any transitions publishing the calendar of implementation events and change dates. They also bring the mods on-board ahead of time and don't leave them holding the bag so to speak. Perception is reality or becomes a reality that sticks even if it is not 100% accurate. Yes this could simply be a good intention carried out badly which does happen way too often. The sponsors and legal folks will probably have to sort that all out now.
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 28, 2013 12:52:16 GMT -5
PRO B staff is talking to their lawyers as we speak/type how, when, etc will be worked out
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Post by medman1952 on Jan 28, 2013 15:30:07 GMT -5
Get the Yamaha TMAX, I like that name, reminds me of TREX.
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Post by Bong on Jan 28, 2013 19:50:03 GMT -5
ScooterProfessor.proboards.com Check it out!!!!! ( I gave NO permission for ANY of my posts to be used on any other site when I signed up) Just sayin.... Please point out the TOS/CoC where personal info, and posts can be used else where....
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Post by snugglebunny on Jan 28, 2013 20:11:54 GMT -5
i see scootdawg.NET finally go a ad a scooter store (mobility) one
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Post by Bong on Jan 28, 2013 20:24:06 GMT -5
So, What happend to Scootdawg.com?? ;D This forum was nothing more than a small link at one time. Lee Chose poorly back then aswell IMHO.
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Post by jarlaxle on Jan 29, 2013 11:35:19 GMT -5
God and goddess, what a soap opera.
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Post by EPAhater on Jan 29, 2013 11:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by Enviromoto on Jan 29, 2013 17:00:43 GMT -5
I've removed my sponsorship banner from the .net site.
It all smells just a little too fishy for me.
Kinda unsettling to think that all the 2000+ posts, tech tips, and build writeups are being used to build membership on a forum I didn't give permission to.
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Post by medman1952 on Jan 29, 2013 23:57:13 GMT -5
I saw your post about not being able to log in there now. Strange.
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Post by mainepeace on Feb 2, 2013 20:12:41 GMT -5
Well, I've been busy and have been unaware of this fiasco, until I started looking into why the "new" site hasn't had much traffic at all.
Now I know why.
"Legal" is looking into it? Yeah right. I have several masters in computer science, internet security, online privacy, etc. and I do know that 99.99% of all "Terms of Service" agreements are UNENFORCEABLE. You cannot have a CONTRACT without positive agreement on both sides. A contract cannot be "one sided". If anyone ever took Proboards to actual court Proboards would lose.
Regardless, I posted here to help people out. I could care less what fiduciary agreement between Lee and Proboards exists or doesn't exist.
I was planning on restarting Askit.mainelyscooters.com (after removing the virus code, it got Wordpress hacked) and get it up and running. Seems to be a good time to do that.
Greg
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