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Post by culdren on Jul 12, 2012 20:02:45 GMT -5
I have a 2012 tao tao 50-a and have heard that upgraded variator springs can help with climbing hills. Anyone have any experience with them on a tao tao? Any suggestions for upgrades and where to get them?
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 12, 2012 20:05:58 GMT -5
Try lighter rollers first . I went from 8 grams to 5 grams in my TaoTao and take off and uphill was much better
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Post by millsc on Jul 12, 2012 20:12:20 GMT -5
I can go 30 up fairly steep hills with 4.5 gram sliders
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Post by culdren on Jul 12, 2012 20:28:17 GMT -5
I get 25-30 up the rolling hills of michigan. I just want to get a little more out of this thing. Start making upgrades where I can. Will definately do the weights. I've put 3000km on it in just over two months, it's probably due for a belt. Where do you suggest getting parts from?
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 12, 2012 20:31:08 GMT -5
Best option is a fat pig
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Post by wile on Jul 12, 2012 20:33:36 GMT -5
24-30 on a 50cc got to tell you is damn good. You are not going to get anything better than that. sh!t folks on here would be happy to get 20mph going up a hill.
Wile
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Post by culdren on Jul 12, 2012 20:42:50 GMT -5
Yeah, gonna pass on the "fat pig" man. I already read that one from some other guy's thread.
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Post by culdren on Jul 12, 2012 20:45:56 GMT -5
I'm under 140#, don't think lighter weights is the way to go. Most of my driving is long distance, through the country.
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Post by skuttadawg on Jul 12, 2012 20:49:27 GMT -5
Lol it means a big bore( boar ) kit which is a larger piston and cylinder
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Post by wile on Jul 12, 2012 21:06:17 GMT -5
Well here is how your CVT should be tuned but you need a tach to really tell.
If you hit the bottom of the hill say at 40 and your rpms say are at 7000 as your going up the hill your rpms SHOULD NOT DROP only your speed due to the weight it has to pull. If your rpms drop dramaticaly your CVT is not tuned right. You have to tune it so the rpms stay up otherwise you will loose quite a bit of speed due to loose of power.
Wile
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Post by culdren on Jul 12, 2012 21:29:13 GMT -5
thanks for the technical info. I don't have a tach on my scoot though.
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Post by millsc on Jul 12, 2012 21:30:16 GMT -5
my rpms uphill are lower than flat or downhill
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Post by millsc on Jul 12, 2012 21:31:53 GMT -5
get some 6gram dr pulley sliders im 200 pounds is why i run 4.5
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Post by wile on Jul 12, 2012 21:34:42 GMT -5
Downhill don't count your scoot is picking up speed no load on the motor and you can cause the motor to overrev and blow it all to hell.
Wile
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Post by millsc on Jul 12, 2012 21:37:57 GMT -5
my rpms are 500 lower uphill but who knows with crappy china tach
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Post by wile on Jul 12, 2012 21:50:43 GMT -5
500 is exceptable I am talking dropping 1000 or more rpms.
Wile
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Post by millsc on Jul 12, 2012 21:54:19 GMT -5
im not challenging you wile you know more than me i respect all your opinions your right most the time
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Post by wile on Jul 12, 2012 22:14:26 GMT -5
I did not take anything as a challenge Mill, I am just explaining what is good and what is bad, nothing more nothing less. You mention yours drops 500 rpms going up a hill and that is good, dropping 1000 or more rpms might as well walk the scoot up the hill.
Wile
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Post by millsc on Jul 12, 2012 22:19:22 GMT -5
all good thanks for all the help wile learned a bunch from you even started a scooter repair side job from all your info
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Post by culdren on Jul 12, 2012 23:06:56 GMT -5
Any guess as to what gram weights come stock on the tao tao atm50-a 2012 edition?
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Post by millsc on Jul 12, 2012 23:08:54 GMT -5
tune the cvt to your weight stay in powerband
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Post by culdren on Jul 12, 2012 23:09:47 GMT -5
If I'm understanding right, when you go with lighter weights, you sacrifice top end speed? I have a long commute. There's a couple annoying hills, but if I had to choose, I would pick overall speed over hauling up a hill faster.
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Post by millsc on Jul 12, 2012 23:12:02 GMT -5
i have found that the weights depend on your weight what do you weigh? my 4.5 mix keeps me at 7000 rpms and my scoot likes it gives me most power and speed
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Post by culdren on Jul 13, 2012 7:59:15 GMT -5
Hi millsc -- I'm under 140# so I'm not sure the light weights are gonna work for what I need. I like the idea of hauling up a hill, but if it means I loose speed on the top end, I don't want to make that trade-off. I commute 20 miles to work down country roads every day. Overall I need the speed more.
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Post by Pony66 on Jul 13, 2012 9:09:28 GMT -5
If I'm understanding right, when you go with lighter weights, you sacrifice top end speed? I have a long commute. There's a couple annoying hills, but if I had to choose, I would pick overall speed over hauling up a hill faster. No, lighter rollers simply raise your opperating RPM. Most scooters make more power at a higher RPM than stock. You simply want to find the RPM that your scooter makes the most power. No, lighter rollers do not sacrafice top end and heaver does not make a faster top end. They simply effect the RPMs. If someone goes way too light, it wont overcome the torque spring and then loose top speed. Most here report success with 5 or 6 gram sliders. |
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Post by millsc on Jul 13, 2012 10:57:02 GMT -5
get some 6 gram sliders from partsforscooters.com or mainelyscooters.com
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