My Son Is Fixing To Turn 16,And He's A Freshman In High School. (His School Is Not To Far From The House) And Hes Going Through The "I'm 2 Cool 2 Ride The Big Yellow Cheese Wagon" Phase
So,In Your Personal Opinion.?????? Whats The Best 50cc Scooter/Moped That Is Easy To Upgrade And Buy Parts For.?????? Alot Of The 50cc Scooter/Mopeds Out There Are Made In China (POOR USA DOSEN'T"T MAKE ANYTHING ANYMORE<>NO WONDER WHY JOBS ARE HARD TO FIND).... But The Reason I'm Asking About Buying Parts And Upgrades,Is Because When It Does Breakdown.I Don't Have To Wait 30days For A Simple Small Part Coming From Half Way Around The World.That Way,I Can Order The Part From Someone Who Already Has It In The Good Old USA... ;D Also,PLEASE Let Me Know Of A Good Cheap 50cc Under $1,000 or Less....Some Of The Ones I Was Looking At On The Internet Go All The Way Up To Almost $3,000(with shipping and tax)...LOL..... Theres No Way On Gods Green Earth,I'm Paying That Kind Of Money For Something That Goes 30mph.... The Whole Reason,I Want To Get Him A 50cc Moped/Scooter...Is Because In Florida You Don't Have To Have A Motorcycle Endorsement,And I Won't Have To Shell Out Hundreds Of Dollars Every Month In Insurance,As Long As Its Paid Off...
He's Always Loved Motorcycles,And I Feel That This Would Help Teach Him Some Riding Motor Skills,Along With Some Responsibility
Hi David Pleased to meet you Im quite pleased and impressed with my Puma Scoot www.pumacycles.com/ It cost a slight bit more then your $ 1,000 cap but not by much Fit and finish are great performance and gas mileage consumption wonderful Do have your son take a MSC online2.msf-usa.org/msf/Default.aspx And also make sure he wear's the proper riding gear and helmet at all times Take care and drive safely Yours Hank
Most chinese 50cc scooters are the same. I find it hard to believe a chinese 50cc scooter for $3000.00, I can believe a Yamaha Zuma for that price.
Good advice on looking at the used world, like craigslist or your local paper. If you go the used route from a rental company, remember they are a used rental and God only knows what abuse they have had.
Scooters are a inexpensive way for a person to gain riding skills!
Hopefully I won't get jumped on for trying to sell you a scooter. But, I don't show the 2 wheeled scooters on my site however, I can get this model www.icebearatv.com/pst50-4,scooter.htm dropped shipped to you for $895 including drop gate shipping. If you are interested give me a call.
Partsforscooters is a great place to get parts!
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www.premierscootersgreenvillesc.com/ the have a Sunny for 999 its a longcase with 12 in wheels and modern headlight . The longcase frame is more comfortable than the shortcase if hes tall like I am . 12 in tires ride better than the 10s
Most China scooters are all the same except the body panels , so for parts most use a 139QMB engine also called a Gy6 50 . Gy6 is usually associated with a 150 . I strongly urge you to get the longcase ( its longer and uses taller tires ) so he can grow into it . The shorter ones , well for me , I am crunched up and not comfortable for a long ride . The longcase I can sit up straight and be in comfort . I HATE drum brakes , as they squeak , do not stop as good and cables stretch and brake , and requires removing the exhaust and rear wheel to service . The higher end model have disc on the rear . Most have disc on the front except the real cheap ones . You want one with a bright headlight so he can see better . I had a Taotao ATM 50 the headlight was too dim for my bad eyes and powered by stator instead of battery . Higher RPMs it gets brighter but dims when you slow down . Replace the China tires with Pirreli or Michelin etc , the will ride better , brake better , and not as likely to blowout . Here is a link to 3 50s around 1,000 the bottom 2 have 13 in wheels and disc brakes on both ends . The taller tires ride more like a motorcycle or bicycle , where the scooters with doughnuts , 8 or 10 in wheels handle much different and take getting used to . They claim a top speed of 40+ , as you will have varables with rider weight and road conditions like a hill . Check your state laws on mopeds as it may be required to be registered as a motorcycle since some states have a 30 MPH limit on mopeds . If you have to get insurance , my Spree 50 was only 48 a year . I would get medpay which would pay for ER bill in case he wrecks and does not have health insurance . If he has a job he can get PIP personal injury protection to pay for lost wages .
A helmet is a must have and get a fullface type not the geeky turtle shell that offers hardly any protection . I have a Gmax Platinum was on 90 , but helmets can go up to several hundred , but cheaper than buying a new face or head . www.cyclegear.com has lots of biker wear like gloves , coats and boots . Ski gloves are no good compared to motorcycle gloves like the Bilt Tornados that I have and are waterproof . I wear steeltoe Timberland boots . Even though I have worn sandals in the summer , but only around the block or trips under a mile I would never suggest doing so as they do not offer protection in the event of a wreck or mishap .
Riding a scooter requires responsibility of one being safe and obeying traffic laws . The best tip I can tell him is to NEVER ride amist heavy traffic , always keep your distance from cars . Always drive in defense mode and act like everyone else on the road is an idiot , and most are or careless . Try to ride on secondary roads instead of highways . If in heavy traffic simply pull over and allow them to pass by so you have the road to yourself . I have had so many almosts with drivers changing lanes w/o signaling or being on the phone and not see me . I bought a neck wrap to block wind from getting under my helmet . I had a scarf but did not like it . The neck wrap also goes under your coat some, and really works great for me .
I have seem some riders wear a safety vest to help be visible more . On my 50 I had LEds on the valve stem that flashes while in motion from bicycle section in Kmart for a lil bling .
I use a bicycle u bolt lock through the wheels and heavy chain at home . I have a cable for travel since chain is bulky and heavy to put under the seat . I also use a Bike Club which is a square shaped lock to go around the kickstand . My scooter if the kickstand is down it kills the ignition , starter , and fuel pump . Scooters are stolen quite often and your buying it for him not a dang crook to steal . Best to keep in a garage if you have one , if not a cover is a great idea to protect it from the rain when not in use as well as UVs from the Sun .
The worst thing I have seen is riding with a passenger , which can be sketchy if they are nervous or not used to riding , or the famous let a buddy drive it and they wreck it . This can become a major headache and may involve legal action . I heard several stories of this happening even two that got killed by being careless .
So I hope you find him a good one and he uses common sense to be safe and enjoy it as much as I do mine .
Post by freedomscoot on Dec 10, 2011 22:16:26 GMT -5
The Tao tao CYM50-T3 in my avatar pic can be yours for $699 shipped to your door- and as a newer model, I find it to be of GREAT quality. I('ve had mine for several months, and not even a hint of trouble- and the overall fit and finish and feel is just great- and it will do over 40MPH out of the box with no mods. In my opinion, it is unbeatable for under a grand. Just make sure you deal with a reputable seller (I got mine from MYATVS.com) and that you get a current model (some dealers sell new scoots that have been sitting around for YEARS!). Like all Chinese scoots, parts and mods for the Tao Tao are widely available and not expensive. I LOVE this scoot- and feel like I got the bargain of the century for $699- You wouldn't even think this was a Chinese scoot, it is just so nice- and it looks awesome in person- I was expecting my neighbors to poke fun at it when i got it, but they all love it and want to ride it! And it's got 12" wheels (a rarity for a 50cc) and handles GREAT. [It comes with a free trunk, too- I just never installed mine]
but also remember USED Honda, kymcos and sym are under a thousand too.
I paid $700 for my Honda Elite 80 in May 2010. 1246 miles when purchased, now a bit over 7000 miles.
No. of no starts or breakdowns = 0.
Electrical problems = 0.
Fuel system problems = 0.
Parts needed other than normal wear items (Belt, rear tire, roller weights, air filters, spark plugs) = 2 valve cover seals and 2 exhaust pipe gaskets, which are needed when the valves are adjusted, and one belt cover gasket, which was replaced when a new belt and roller weights were installed.
Money spent trying to eek out 5 mph more (as in a china 50) = 0.
I would get it if you can get it for a good enough price. I like to find cheap bikes on craiglist and fix them up a little and sell them. A site I use to get my parts from is: ScooterDoctor.com This place is still getting all there products on there new site the guy told me. But he had everything I needed. I got a new battery a new CVT and clutch. Then I got a new carb and bigger jet. But yea the dude that worked there hooked me up. Just thought I would share that.
The 209 N. Belcrest Ave. Suite K-204, Springfield, MO 65802 return address is an apartment complex.
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Before you spend money on a scooter, Make sure he wants one and will use it. Remember if you buy the cheapest, you might end up with the cheapest. Look for a 2-stroke, more power than a 4-stroke and easier to work on. bigger wheels are more stable at higher speeds and better over road imperfections like pot holes. Front ABS is a plus for newer riders. My scooter even came with an alarm system. My scooter is a Yamati eurostrada RX8 and I paid $1750.00 out the door. The Chinese have been making scooters along time, so look around and compare. Go to a local scooter store and look at the cheapest and most expensive and compare the difference in quality and how their equipt.
The best 50 cc. scooter I owned was the 100 cc. (94 cc actually) Scarabeo LOL. Parts are certainly readily available. Almost nobody is content with the speed of a 50 so they put money into it trying to get a few more MPH out of it when all they needed was a 100 cc to begin with.
Post by larry001964 on Dec 11, 2011 17:34:27 GMT -5
I tend to think it has a lot to do with the type of driving, if your just tooling around the neighborhood, or going a few blocks to the station then a 50 is ok, if your driving in town on many of the faster roads, 40 MPH or so then a 72 or 83 is very good. If your driving is country then again it's different, Longer distances, longer times at WOT so again a little bigger in cc. Just depends on your type of driving as to what will fill the bill...
3x 8 gram and 3x 8.5 Dr Pulley sliders. LED tail and turn signals Bando Drive Belt. And many other mods to numerous to mention.
Go to a local scooter store. Ask around and find a shop with a good reputation. Parts for Chinese scooters can usually be got the same day as a good shop has them in stock. Hear in St.Pete. we are lucky to have a lot of them. I use one I think is the best, Seminole Scooters. seminolescooters.com/ If you need parts and have the time to wait a day or two, www.partsforscooters.com/ can usually get them to you quickly. I ride my Silverwing most of the time and although it is a fine scooter I always have to order parts for it. I am also lucky to have more than one scooter so waiting for parts is not a big deal. A Japanese scooter has a lot better quality control than a Chinese one but cost a lot more. And for a scooter to learn on I think you are much better to get a Chinese or a Taiwanese scooter. As I said I would find a local shop you can trust and go with them. And I also would advise him to take the MSF course.
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+1 on the MSF course. Very, very important for all riders, not just a new one.
Thanks for the props Pony!
+2 on the MSF course!
Since he's "2 Cool 2 Ride The Big Yellow Cheese Wagon" he might think the "safety" course is for kids, so - TAKE IT WITH HIM... show him that you're never too young or old to learn some things or get them refreshed.
Often times, those that don't think they need it, need it the most...
Could be a good experience for the two of you together.
Welcome. Good question, great place to ask it. I would encourage making it his problem to a big extent. whoever said it depends on where he will be riding is right. If there is not place he wants to go that is safe to go on a machine that tops at 30 or so, you better change plans. He will be like a caged tiger if he can't get to where his buddies and the girls are. I would be scared silly with a son of mine on a 50CC where I live. He needs a least 150 with Fuel Injection to have a reasonable ability to blend with traffic. On the other hand, where Hank lives, I think a puma is a great choice -except maybe it does not need much fixing ever. If you want him to learn wrenching, maybe a car is a better idea. Bottom line. what you put into a scoot is probably less than 1/2 what you pay for it. Wven if he don't use it, it will sell for a chunk of it's cost. He is lucky to have you for a day. I would also enclurage you to go shopping with him. Drive the dealers a bit crazy and of course, scour Craigs list. It is the off season and there really are some near steals out there. Hope we helped Cheers lefty2
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