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Post by mike1948 on Sept 8, 2011 12:46:29 GMT -5
Noob here- I was very interested in this reverse trike untill I found this forum.
Now I don't think the trike would be worth the problems.
Does anyone have one that runs fine. Any that ran good out of the box?
I realize that there will alway be a problem child, but this looks like the the whole family is sick. Should I run (very fast)?
Any dealers in Wisconsin carrying these?
Thanks
Mike
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Post by sarge707 on Sept 8, 2011 12:51:04 GMT -5
Some run OK But if I had to do it all over again I would have used the $2,300 on a quality Known brand used scooter. The Big Guy in the videos with the perfect handling one suckered me in?
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Post by fleeter on Sept 8, 2011 14:15:15 GMT -5
no first hand experience, but from what I've heard, they're not worth it. some will say save your $$ and get a used can-am.
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Post by Heytim on Sept 8, 2011 15:01:48 GMT -5
HI Mike,
Like you, I love the concept and price. At the present time I am waiting for a pickup order from the distributor. I had too many issues to discuss here. I gave up when the tinkering time, was ten-fold the riding time. It was two weeks after delivery that I got the first ride, a successful 60 miles. But only after repairing several missing and broken parts due to incorrect packaging, and discovering the reverse fuel pump installation.
After that even a 2 mile ride was not reliable. I started to suffer electrical problems in several areas, including the instrument cluster, and ending with melting micro switches near the brake levers, which are critical to the start safety circuit. At this point I gave up because after many attempts with dealer and distributor, and in addition, conversations with the manufacturer's reps in China, I was unable to obtain wiring diagrams or schematics, ultimately necessary to diagnosis electrical issues. Again!! I love the concept but would not do it again until I had some guarantee that fundamental problems could be resolved. 10 to 1 ratio for riding to tinkering would be more acceptable. Total ride miles = 113 total fixing / tinkering time at least 150 hours( more like 200 hours). And I am a well tooled and experienced technician and mechanic.
I might add, the return process is very difficult to get implemented, and as of this moment has not been accomplished.
You might notice that IceBear, one of the importers, no longer offers this Scooter on their web pages. Hmmmm What do they know that we don't?? OH I forgot to mention, cutting my losses at this point, assuming I can get the purchase price refunded, I will be out about $500 . . . . ENJOY !1
Tim
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Post by edfr on Sept 8, 2011 16:00:13 GMT -5
Hi Tim,
Sorry to hear of the bad experience, But many will thank you for the very important information and hopefully will save someone else from going through the problems with that Trike. Also the poop about the Dealer and or Manufacturer not able or willing to resolve the problems. Hope you get somekind of Refund and maybe work out that they pay to ship the Trike back to them.
Lefty
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Post by dayseedee on Sept 8, 2011 20:34:06 GMT -5
Noob here- I was very interested in this reverse trike untill I found this forum. Now I don't think the trike would be worth the problems. Does anyone have one that runs fine. Any that ran good out of the box? I realize that there will alway be a problem child, but this looks like the the whole family is sick. Should I run (very fast)? Any dealers in Wisconsin carrying these? Thanks Mike I guess we have been lucky with our purchase! The only problem we had was a dirty carberator---my mechanic cleaned it out, balanced the wheels, adjusted the shocks, and has been riding with no problems. My sister loves it and rides it everyday. Has a little over 100 miles and still half a tank of gas! So far so good! I bought it from Supersportz.com and it came fully assembled to my door. |
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Post by Heytim on Sept 8, 2011 21:37:28 GMT -5
Dayseedee,
Did you forget about backward fuel pump, which you found out about here, and then gave the info, to your mechanic? Also didn't you have some tire balance stuff done also? BTW how much was the manual?
Not one of these scooters that we know about here. has come through without something wrong. I am glad you love your DF150tKD scooter, but would you really recommend it to others?
Also: Has your sister taken it over 30 yet? Things including your opinion could change. Apologies, I seem harsh, and that was not my intention. I am hoping to get out of my deal without having to involve Ohio's "Lemon Laws", but only my dealer and distributor can spare me that step. As I said previously, I am willing to cut my losses at $500.00 But not add crating and shipping back to California to the expense. Most likely another $700 or $800.
Tim
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Post by Heytim on Sept 8, 2011 21:40:26 GMT -5
Sorry, I meant to say how much help was the manual the manufacturer provided, and then put a smiley after it.  |
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Post by mike1948 on Sept 9, 2011 9:17:22 GMT -5
I going to hold off on this purchase, probably forever. Sounds like it would be a nightmare with no recourse after things go sour.
I did take a look at Supersportz.com and it looks like they don't sell them anymore.
Thanks for the input guys!
Mike
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Post by dayseedee on Sept 9, 2011 16:20:02 GMT -5
Dayseedee, Did you forget about backward fuel pump, which you found out about here, and then gave the info, to your mechanic? Also didn't you have some tire balance stuff done also? BTW how much was the manual? Not one of these scooters that we know about here. has come through without something wrong. I am glad you love your DF150tKD scooter, but would you really recommend it to others? Also: Has your sister taken it over 30 yet? Things including your opinion could change. Apologies, I seem harsh, and that was not my intention. I am hoping to get out of my deal without having to involve Ohio's "Lemon Laws", but only my dealer and distributor can spare me that step. As I said previously, I am willing to cut my losses at $500.00 But not add crating and shipping back to California to the expense. Most likely another $700 or $800. Tim I did mention on another post about the fuel line to my mechanic and it started but the following day did not start. That mechanic gave up on it so i took it to a scooter mechanic/dealer, he did not mention anything about the backward pump just everything else i mentioned including tire balance. My sister has gone 50mph with no problems. Yes my opinion might change but as of now it is working very well with no problems. |
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Post by cliftonc on Sept 9, 2011 20:54:24 GMT -5
Hmmm... I just checked the Sunny Sports website. They have the 50 and 150cc versions still there, AND a 300cc version.
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Post by stewali on Sept 10, 2011 10:07:23 GMT -5
My scooter runs fine and I like its just not big enough for me so I'm putting it up for sale. It is for sale on craiglist in Evansville IN. 1700.00 takes it and it is ready to go.
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Post by mike1948 on Sept 10, 2011 10:10:30 GMT -5
Hmmm... I just checked the Sunny Sports website. They have the 50 and 150cc versions still there, AND a 300cc version. Sunny still has them but, not Supersportz.com |
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Post by stewali on Sept 10, 2011 10:19:00 GMT -5
I have a good one no problems but I'm going to sale it because I need a bigger one. On craiglist in evansville in. 1700.00
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Post by dayseedee on Sept 10, 2011 12:28:02 GMT -5
The 150cc and the 50cc reverse trike are still available at Supersportz.com
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Post by dayseedee on Sept 10, 2011 12:30:50 GMT -5
I have a good one no problems but I'm going to sale it because I need a bigger one. On craiglist in evansville in. 1700.00 are you getting the 300cc reverse trike made by the same company? It looks really nice and big |
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Post by sarge707 on Sept 10, 2011 16:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by sarge707 on Sept 10, 2011 16:34:21 GMT -5
heytim- Returns seem impossible once you have Fueled,Put it together and riden it? I wish you luck!
Lemon Law- If your state mhas a Motorcycle lemon law could it apply to this scooter?
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Post by Heytim on Sept 11, 2011 22:25:18 GMT -5
HI Sarge,
In all of my previous posts here, I have only scratched the surface of my problems encountered with this scooter. I managed to maintain my enthusiasm for a full month, until I could no longer justify the time and money. In addition I have avoided even talking about the Dealer I purchased from, nor the Distributor who shipped it directly to me. But it wasn't any of the other names, typically mentioned here. If, after a few more months of negotiating, I am unable to reach a satisfactory conclusion, I will make this forum aware of who they are. Again I am still negotiating and do not want to poison the deal.
You all realize of course,that there are probably plenty more sad stories out there regarding this "trike" who are either unaware of this forum, or just not posting anything.
Ohio does have lemon laws, I wish for you, that your state also would protect you. You situation slightly differs, because customized. Mine is all original except for the different fuse holder, which I had to install because of the access issue. (cheapest possible fuse holder, in one of the most unreachable locations).
I changed fuses 15 times in 1 week, but had replaced the holder after the third fuse. After the brake micro switches, (part of the starting safety circuit), melted with the last fuse change, I decided to toss in the towel, and attempt returning it to the distributor. In an attempt to obtain schematics or wiring diagrams, I have also talked to a rep at DongFang, who told me they did not assemble this trike as the packaging implies, but it was assemble by Huari Ltd. Dong Fang gave me a contact email who's rep said, only after I had given him a model number DF150TKA, "could I send him a picture of my scooter" "because they have so many electric scooters that they assemble, he wasn't sure which wiring diagram to provide" . . .
HUH!! did he miss the model number that I provided???
Did the first guy give me incorrect info as to Huari ?? Hmmm Maybe this could explain why the fuel pumps were installed backwards. Anyway how are you suppose to diagnose electrical problems with no documentation? I haven't a clue, and apparently neither do the factories. !!!!!!!
I am through with typing for tonight, maybe in a couple days I will tell more of my tale.
Tim
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Post by sarge707 on Sept 12, 2011 12:16:10 GMT -5
A lot of people research before buying, So the typing is not in vain! Someone is reading and making a more informed decision about this vehicle as we speak!
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Post by markt40 on Feb 14, 2013 19:46:54 GMT -5
I just received my 2012 redesigned DF150TKA with 40" wide front end yesterday no damage from shipping. I set everything up and today drove around our block. Put 10.1 miles on it. So far so good! I purchased from Scooter Depot so far I am very happy the trike rides great, ran it up to 35 with no problems other than speedo stopped working. I pulled the speedo mechanism from the rear wheel and found there was a washer and c clip that held the assembly together. The washer was to thin so the two ears that connect it to the wheel became disengaged. I located a thicker washer at Lowes and installed it now it is working but as most people have found out it is not very accurate. Mine is reading 9 mph faster than GPS speed. Attachments:
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Post by edfr on Feb 14, 2013 22:32:17 GMT -5
Ice Bear dropped them within a very short time they do not sell them anymore. To many problems and complaints. Especially with the front wheels, getting up on speed or decelerating the wheels shimmey so bad almost ripes your arms off. This happens on the 150s and 300 since they can get up to around 50mph. Stories glore not only on this forum but on other forums. One guy that is on ScooterProfessor has added air shocks and stabilizers to the front to stop the shimming, also go over little rough road and you will get sick swaying back and forth.
I do not think the FRONT of the REVERSE TRIKES are ready for PRIME TIME. They need to redeign the front and make it stable.
Why not get a proven Trike with the wheels on the back?
Lefty
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Post by skuttadawg on Feb 14, 2013 22:46:48 GMT -5
Do trikes or reverse trikes have a reverse ? I have only ridden offroad ATCs back in the 80s but never a street trike and would love to see how a reverse trike rides .
The Can Ams start at 16 and go up to 28 grand or at least that what the dealer has them listed for near me . That is insanely over priced IMO , yes Can Am is a high brand but for that much you could get a Harley and a small car
I have read where some have weird rear tire wear . The reverse trikes to me would seem safer to ride and not as likely to flip over like I have on ATC when horsing around as a teen
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Post by edfr on Feb 14, 2013 22:55:00 GMT -5
One guy don't remember which forum this forum or ScooterDoc or Scooterprofessor he was just making a turn onto his driveway about 5 miles an hour and it fell over on it side and he was trapped under it. The neighbor had to come and pick it up so he could get out from under it. Like I said those REVERSE trikes right now are death traps, the front end is not QUALITY and not stable at all and needs stronger parts in front to hold it together.
Lefty
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Post by skuttadawg on Feb 14, 2013 23:14:42 GMT -5
So was your buddy on a reverse trike or regular ? I would think reverse would be more stable
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Post by edfr on Feb 14, 2013 23:43:05 GMT -5
No not my buddy I do not know him from adam he is just a member like you and me and he bought a Reverse Trike and was nice enough to tell it like it is. Like I said he is either on this forum or ScooterDoc or ScooterProfessor. Real Live stuff from a member that bought one.
No your wrong the reverse trikes are NOT STABLE at all, your REAR axle trikes ARE VERY STABLE you do not have to LEAN to turn. So think about it on a REVERSE trike any little sway from your body will tilt the wheels in front not good at all. A fellow on Scooterprofessor took several videos trying to fix his 300cc Reverse Trike front end and even making a turn was not smooth at all. One Video he took it on a dirt road NOT SMOOTH of course and not a pleasant ride at all trying to keep it straight.
Lefty
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Post by skuttadawg on Feb 15, 2013 0:28:21 GMT -5
Thanks for the input as I do not know anyone who has a trike scooter near me
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Post by markt40 on Feb 15, 2013 6:00:50 GMT -5
Actually from my experience so far with my new reverse trike it won't fall over unless you take it with you when you feel like your going to fall. It took me several try's to tame this bronco. First pull out from my driveway to turn right and I went straight across the street. I think I tried to lean to turn then felt like I was going to fall so I straightened it out. I then started backing it up to the end of my driveway and then tried just going straight to the garage I was wobbly at first then got better after about 6 runs. Then I started going around my car through the grass and driveway to the left about 10 times then something just clicked and I felt in control. I then went to the right about the same. Once I did that I felt confident enough to take it around the block and ran 10 miles all through my development. I love this thing had several young girls beg for rides ;D!! And lots of looks!! Oh and no it doesn't have reverse but its easy to move with your legs. Link below is a video of me riding in my yard. m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=mq-1kCPLK00&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dmq-1kCPLK00 |
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Post by savy09 on Feb 15, 2013 12:58:07 GMT -5
Alternative trike: Vogue/Auto Moto 150cc trike made by Xingyue read my new thread in trikes Attachments:
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Post by markt40 on Feb 15, 2013 14:33:54 GMT -5
Before I bought my reverse trike I went to a place in SC that had a bunch of ice bear regular trikes and I tried a 150cc one it shook so bad at 30 mph in the parking lot it scared me. The salesman said it was normal and that I would get used to it (no way). Plus it just seemed too small and had very little room for a passenger. So I went for the reverse trike I'm glad I did it is much bigger and lot more room for the wife.
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