Roketa MC 54B 250 headlight question

[revets]

Can the unused light switch on the right side handlebar be used to turn one headlight off for daytime driving? Isn't it a law now that motorcycles have to have headlights on? The manual say it turns the lights out but may have been eliminated because of the running light law.
The switch is there. Too bad it's not functional just for the times when you have low battery. I put 35 watt bulbs in place of the 25 watt that come in it. I read where other people did it. Is that too much for the electrical system?
(I found it)
Since 1979, most motorcycles sold in the United States have been equipped with automatic-on headlamps to meet some state requirements.

[ssj4goko4]

i dunno bought a headlight always on being law never herd of it i never see bikes day running there lights. could have been some dumb law that they thought up but never passed like Florida trying to require seat-belts on bikes the retards.

if you wanted a brighter light you should have gone led. they tend to draw less power and are bright. stators are not a car alternator they barely toss out 12v idle and like 13v when riding on a tiny 7 amp battery.

[revets]

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led headlights do not work. they do not project enough light to see the road.

plus & this is a big plus.... stock headlight circuits are AC from the stator.

to use LED or HID lights you need 12V DC.

this is the reason for the conversion---- to get the 12 V DC


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[ssj4goko4]

yea i herd his statement he really doesn't know led lamps or had a crappy one. led bulbs tend to project in one direction in a nice solid beam like a flashlight. so yes it does not light the road as well but it has a grater range being its a focused light. so it light object in front of you much sooner then a normal light would.

as for a on/off switch being you have the switch that's a pretty straight forward answer. the light it probably wired directly to the stator take that hot wire and wire it to the switch then run the hot back to the stator. you will be able to turn the light off them.

and if hid are so weak whats with this guys it owns the stock light.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPgYlJl3Sd4

hears a led www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgOXVdof8tg

[noday]

we disagree.

LEDs are not the same as HIDs.

LEDs are seen well but do not project well.

HIDs work very well as headlights.

it is easy & cheap enough to try and see what you think about LED headlights about $5-6 on Ebay.

as far as I know, no lights are wired directly to the stator on a 54b

the 54b has an 11 pole 3 phase stator & RR with about 150 watt output.

if the battery runs down perhaps an alarm circuit is involved ? or a bad diode ?

here is a link to a ? generic 54b wiring diagram.

home.roadrunner.com/~earlwbollinger/scooters/Circuit_Diagram.JPG

the mentioned switch is a dimmer switch.

I am still not sure what revets question is.

[ssj4goko4]

if you get led you do not get a 5$ one off ebay. done correctly a led light can even match a hid. if led relly had the issue that guy thinks why do new cars use them as there headlamps. theirs a massive difference between a cheap 5$ one and a quality high lntentsy led.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mAkdtdQeGQ

[tomfl62]

I live in Florida and its been along time since i seen any bikes on the road without headlights on .

[noday]

there are no magic powerful LED headlights. they all come from the same factories in China.

I agree with bninch

[ssj4goko4]

wow if you really think leds quality does not very largely you are badly mistaken its the same deal with hid. if you get one of those crappy conversion kits on a scoot not designed for it the light scatter is not only bad but a danger in fact a improper conversion is illagle in the uk. you need to pretty need to change out the entire headlight system.

and if theirs no led headlights bright enough why are they in new cars.

[ssj4goko4]

if you do a hid conversion correctly they can be awesome. same for led but comparing 5$ ebay models is like comparing apples to rotten apples. as i said before with led they tend to project in 1 direction so it takes a different cover on the light and some extra led to do the proper scatter. even on a audi car that has had them sense 2008 those bulbs are not cheap.

[ssj4goko4]

did that kit include a new front assembly to tighten the hids beam. hid and led work the opposite of one another. led need to be scattered and hid need to be focused.

[bhinch]

The H4 bulb has a shroud .... which focuses the light.... then the relay gives you Hi beam....it is a telescopic movement...

[bhinch]

Go to Ebay and search Xenon HID's and see what is available....I used the H4 bulb...which has a new holder for the bulb and you use the original attachment that came with the scoot...two bulbs...two digital ballast...and wiring harness....take a look....

[smokindawg]

I had a problem with the charging system on my scooter. The wiring was also a problem.

I rewired a lot of the items on my scooter, including relays and that helped. I then added a switch in the headlight power wire so that I could turn mine off. I also bought a set of cheap LED driving lights and mounted them on the front for daylight driving. I just think there should be something lit on the front, as it's hard enough for us to be seen.

I just started riding it yesterday and will report back if I have any problem with the law and my light set-up.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, the switch your talking about on the right should be the engine kill switch..... Although mine takes fits and sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.

[bhinch]

My scooter has the HID mod....and the manual choke mod...which does away with the enricher...new grips....and I recovered the seat...othe than that it is bone stock...one battery in 3 yrs......one set of tires.....original tires lasted about 2300 miles.....then switched to Michelin's......now have 5600 total miles....we do not build a scooter....so we all have gone Chinascoots....enjoy the ride...

[revets]

The MC 54B 250 (2007 year model ) scooter I have has an 18 pole stator.
alfonzo.pixa.us/images/19371264/%20Stator-inside-housing

Let me ask this question. Are changing 25 watt headlight bulbs to 35 watt bulbs too much for the electrical system on this scooter? I read on here where many people have done it. I thought with a new stator and regulators I would be ok. Like I said before it is fine until the cooling fan comes on and then I think it it may reach the discharging range. The lights get a lot dimmer also. A few days riding and the battery goes flat.
I have noticed on some of the new scooters they only run one headlight for daytime running light.

[harrywr2]

Aug 7, 2011 11:38:27 GMT -5 revets said:

Are changing 25 watt headlight bulbs to 35 watt bulbs too much for the electrical system on this scooter?

It's easy enough to offset the extra wattage in the headlights by replacing the tail lights with LED's.

[revets]

Here is a photo of the right handlebar switches. Actually there are 2 switches on the right handlebar.

alfonzo.pixa.us/images/19407924/%20Switch-handlebar

According to the manual the one in the middle turns the lights off. I figure that was not used for sales in this country. You have the red kill switch and not sure about the yellow switch. It doesn't do anything as far as I know.
Motorcycle laws by state.
www.eastcoastmarc.org/art_laws.htm
Alabama
Safety Helmet. required by law
State Funded Rider Ed. available for all eligible applicants
Eye Protection. no restriction
Daytime Use of Headlight. modulating headlight permitted.
Passenger Seat. required if carrying a passenger
Passenger Footrests. required if carrying a passenger
Passenger Age Restrictions. none
Helmet Speakers. no restrictions
Periodic Safety Inspection. none
Mirror Left(L) Right(R). required by law
Radar Detector. no restriction

[ssj4goko4]

well if you have to have day runner defiantly use some low watt led for the daytime. and use that extra switch as a switch between the led and whatever else you have. day running lights is just stupid dunno what retard thinks that helps. guess i live in one of the more sane states.

something like this for day runners then your normal or whatever for night

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqbq4_i_9Cs&feature=related

Kentucky
Safety Helmet. required for novice riders, under the age of 21 and required for instruction permit holders.
State Funded Rider Ed. available for all eligible applicants, may waive skills test for successful completion of rider ed
Eye Protection. required by law unless equipped with windscreen
Daytime Use of Headlight. no restriction
Passenger Seat. required if carrying a passenger
Passenger Footrests. required if carrying a passenger
Passenger Age Restrictions. none
Helmet Speakers. no restrictions
Periodic Safety Inspection. annual emissions, some areas
Mirror Left(L) Right(R). required by law
Radar Detector. no restriction

[breeze71]

I have a Roketa 250cc and I put in 45/35w headlight bulbs and no problem. They were a little bit brighter. I then went to halogen 35w bulbs and they're much brighter and I haven't had any problems. I also changed to LEDs on the rest of my lights. My 9 amp replacement battery has handled the load although I do keep it on a float charger most of the time just to make sure I have a fully charged battery when I take off. Jonway and Roketa are the same. I'm attaching a wiring diagram which should be the same for your scoot or close to it. And my scoot runs with lights on which is standard/mandatory for the 2 wheel industry including motorcycles. The electrical systems on these Chinese scoots are substandard quality. But you get what you pay for.

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[revets]

Thanks for the info. I changed the 25 Watt headlight bulbs to 35 and with a new stator a world of difference. I still would like to be able to use that switch on the handlebar to turn one headlight off for daytime driving. I ordered a bunch of LED's the 1157 tail light bulbs and the 194's for tag light, turn signal indicator, bright light indicator and fan light. Got two of those high intensity 194's for the front parking light (above headlight). Plugged one into the tag light and they are pretty bright. Hope this lightens the load on the electrical system.
If anyone orders LED 1157 for the MC 54B 250 the diameter cannot be over25.6 mm or it will not go in the housing.
alfonzo.pixa.us/images/19412911/%20134573602-o-%281%29
These bulbs are bigger than this print shows. They are actually about 1.050 in dia. That's too big to fit the tail light housing.

194 high intensity
alfonzo.pixa.us/images/19412922/%20LEDoption-L11-2

[surferjoe1992]

So is there a link to the LED tail lights? I tried to google the information ie: the bulb size of 1157 with the tail lights, but I'm still a bit confused. I ordered the xenon lights though. I've got to admit I'm super stoked to install them this week.