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Post by gtbike on Dec 30, 2010 20:12:32 GMT -5
I tried to fire up My 08 Lance Milan which I rode 1 week ago, but last night all I could get was a click each time I hit the starter switch.
Kickstart has never worked for me on this one in spite of realigning the whole set up several times, I think the return spring is shot.
This sure seems similar to solenoid problems on my VW's.
Do these scoots have replacable solenoids? Is that a likely issue?
What else should I check? Could I have a starter extended and stuck on the flywheel or on a toothless gap or both?
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Post by inkyben on Dec 30, 2010 20:26:00 GMT -5
Check the volts on the battery if it has sat for a week. My 50cc will do the same even after 3 days of sitting.
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Post by medman1952 on Dec 31, 2010 3:34:18 GMT -5
low battery or dirty cables/ground can do that.
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Post by rockynv on Dec 31, 2010 9:48:08 GMT -5
On my 2007 Lance Vintage the ground connection inside the starter is what had failed. I was having a hard starting issue and the crimp to the ground cable was bad causing it to overheat and burn up. The entire starter was charred up when it burned so I picked up a starter pulled form a wreck from a local dealer for $15.
Start by charging the battery and making sure your battery to frame ground connection is good. Now verify that you have 12+ volts at the solenoid where the large cable from the battery goes into it and if you do then hit the start button and see if you have voltage coming out. If it clicks but you don't get 12+ volts then you have a bad solenoid. You can do this with a $3 volt meter from Harbor Freight or a 12 volt test light from the Dollar Store. If you have voltage coming out of the solenoid next check the terminal on the starter and if you get nothing there then you have a bad cable between the solenoind and the starter otherwise your starter has failed.
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Post by gtbike on Dec 31, 2010 15:38:39 GMT -5
I've been reading other threads about starting issues and want to clarify...
Single click (what I get) = relay?
multi click = starter or solenoid?
any other considerations? My garage is like 40degrees today and tight from a dismantled VW so I don't want to start in the wrong direction.
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Post by edfr on Dec 31, 2010 15:51:51 GMT -5
Check if it is your solenoid that is bad. Take a screw driver or something and touch both terminals on the solenoid, if it turns your starter it is either bad connections or your solenoid is bad. Most likely your solenoid is bad.
Lefty
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Post by Bong on Dec 31, 2010 15:53:26 GMT -5
Check the battery first!!!!!! If it is weak, is could save you time in a cold garage and money ;D
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Post by lshigham on Dec 31, 2010 16:52:44 GMT -5
Check the battery first!!!!!! If it is weak, is could save you time in a cold garage and money ;D ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said. It's the most likely explanation. |
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Post by medman1952 on Dec 31, 2010 19:43:51 GMT -5
Check the battery first!!!!!! If it is weak, is could save you time in a cold garage and money ;D ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What he said. It's the most likely explanation. /\/\/\/\/\... my opinion too, then check your cables and grounds. After that worry about starter and solenoid. First of all do the cheap/free stuff first. |
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Post by gtbike on Dec 31, 2010 21:46:23 GMT -5
Update, the battery is fully charged and the multimeter confirms it too. Looks like it's time to put on the mechanix gloves and check the grounds, wires and then the solenoid, relay and starter.
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Post by edfr on Dec 31, 2010 22:31:18 GMT -5
Just take a screwdriver and touch both terminals on the solenoid, if it cranks the starter you know it is a bad solenoid. That is where the clicking is coming from when you push the start button. That is what goes bad in them the rest of the solenoid is good but the piece that finishs the connection to the starter is the weak link. Unless the scoot is old and been out in the rain and stuff the connections will not be rusted or not making good contact.
Lefty
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