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Post by themaxxx on Dec 24, 2010 4:32:53 GMT -5
Thoughts and comments on the BMS ROAR? Horror stories? Praise? www.superiorpowersports.com/250cc_Gas_Scooter_Touring_p/bms250sc-lroar.htmWould anyone suggest a better 250cc-ish instead? Are SSR's a better buy, for example? In the same price range anyway. Will be doing city riding and some cruising with the scoot. It will be primary transportation into next winter, at least. Two spots out of the city mostly: one an hour away, one an hour and a half away. Can do highway or back-roads (some really nice) for both drives. |
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Post by earthman on Dec 24, 2010 4:37:55 GMT -5
your gonna be traveling man!
the roar does not have long range tires !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
get something big with 13 or 16 inch tires.
the roar is a great bike but not on a high way with the woman you love on the back.
tell Jason at superior to vacume the tank and buy a clean gas bottle to store gas.
break in engine with sea foam!
U GONNA B THE HAPPY MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by widehide on Dec 24, 2010 15:16:28 GMT -5
themaxx, I have 2 scooters with 13 inch tires, They are fine if you have good tires like Michelin, I have 6K miles on the VOG260, the front is like new. What I would consider is the 257cc Engine, what you are looking at is 244cc and it is great but about 2 more HP comes with the 257cc. You can get a better price, Look here, I have not purchased from them but do some looking. www.countyimports.com/inc/sdetail/24613 |
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Post by kwaidonjin on Dec 24, 2010 15:27:42 GMT -5
I thought the engine in the Roketa 54B was the Linhai 257cc, is the vog the only one with the 257cc.?
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Post by widehide on Dec 24, 2010 15:54:21 GMT -5
yes the 54B and Vog have the 257cc . the picture of the BMS ROAR shows A finned side case, that is the 244cc Honda Clone. The 244cc is a great engine.
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Post by WarrenS on Dec 24, 2010 17:13:48 GMT -5
Both my Burgman and Morphous get along fine with 13 inch tires.
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Post by braveheart on Dec 24, 2010 18:20:42 GMT -5
Correct if I am wrong scootdawgs, but I believe that the BMS scoots are Znen built. Also, I would want front/rear discs on a highway scoot. I agree that 13" tires would not be an issue as long as a quality tire like Michelin was used.
Good luck on your purchase Themaxxx. You might want to consider a 150cc or 200cc...
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Post by earthman on Dec 24, 2010 19:18:23 GMT -5
When I was shopping for a bike months ago I looked at better tires and took note that many good tires are out there in all sizes, but the 13s and 16s I looked for where on back order ( this was summer) which tells me 13 and 16 are taking on a greater popularity an if that is true market forces may bring us even better tires then where being sold last year.
imagine a TIGER PAW for scooters.
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Post by jimh on Dec 24, 2010 21:43:29 GMT -5
I thought tiger paws went out in the 70's!
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Post by kwaidonjin on Dec 24, 2010 23:16:42 GMT -5
yes the 54B and Vog have the 257cc . the picture of the BMS ROAR shows A finned side case, that is the 244cc Honda Clone. The 244c c is a great engine. Is the 244 better than the 257? and Why?  |
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Post by haywire17 on Dec 25, 2010 1:04:13 GMT -5
check out SYM citicom 300 has 16" tires
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Post by widehide on Dec 25, 2010 10:53:23 GMT -5
kwai, the 244cc is not better, probably the best way to describe it is it has more history, it has been produced in China for many years and parts are easily available. The 257 cc is slowly catching up with parts supplies. The 244cc has better access to the valve adjustment and is easier to set. There is slightly more power from the 257cc but depending on the weight of the scooter and yourself you might not see the difference. I personally would buy the 244cc for my next scooter just due to the valve adjustment process. On my wifes Roketa 54B 257cc scooter I have had to adjust the valves 2 times in in the first 2800 miles. It for me is a hard project to adjust the bottom exhaust valve. Here is a page from the 244cc manual that shows the ease of setting the 244cc valves. mpsracing.net/helix-manual/03-06.html |
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Post by sarge24 on Dec 28, 2010 5:01:23 GMT -5
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Post by quest4fire on Dec 28, 2010 6:16:31 GMT -5
kwai, the 244cc is not better, probably the best way to describe it is it has more history, it has been produced in China for many years and parts are easily available. The 257 cc is slowly catching up with parts supplies. The 244cc has better access to the valve adjustment and is easier to set. There is slightly more power from the 257cc but depending on the weight of the scooter and yourself you might not see the difference. I personally would buy the 244cc for my next scooter just due to the valve adjustment process. On my wifes Roketa 54B 257cc scooter I have had to adjust the valves 2 times in in the first 2800 miles. It for me is a hard project to adjust the bottom exhaust valve. Here is a page from the 244cc manual that shows the ease of setting the 244cc valves. mpsracing.net/helix-manual/03-06.htmlWhat makes the valves go out of adjustment so quickly? I only adjust mine if I remove the head. |
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Post by widehide on Dec 28, 2010 8:38:31 GMT -5
Gosh, I guess it probably has to do with the quality of the steel used on some of the Chinese Scooters. Possibly not hardened to the level of hardness required ??
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Post by ce on Dec 28, 2010 14:40:39 GMT -5
Nah, the steel is plenty hard, I think it's just the stacked tolerances throughout the whole machine, and the vibrations inherent in the one cylinder engine.
It's no big deal, really, I can adjust my valves with relative ease with only removing 2 screws. For the intake, I bored two holes in the battery basin to use an 8mm socket on an extension with a swivel, using a magnet to capture the bolts so they don't fall in. Easy.
Then, for the exhaust, just take the 2 bolts off the black right side bottom panel, prop it down out of the way with a block, and reach up in there with your left hand.
I guess it was kinda harduous, it took me half an hour to get one bolt started, but if you're left handed, it'd be easy. Plus it's nice to lay down under the scooter, checking out all the stuff you can't see from the top.
Once you've done it, it's de rigeur to run right, so whenever you feel performance is inadequate, it's easy to check.
My latest is to check the valves while they're hot, when the metal is all expanded, and the gap is all but imperceptable, and that is how the machine runs best, so far, with the slightest of movement of the rocker arm with the engine on the compression stroke.
It's outlaw mechanics, done entirely by extra sensory perception. And it works.
You really ought to get a Linhai, Questdude, you'd have a ball getting to know its inner scooter.
I mean, yeah, the Heimlich is an awesome and esoterically superb machine, but a Chinese pirated copy of an antiquated design, it's just so impossibly easy to work on, and parts are so available and cheap, what could you muck up?
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Post by themaxxx on Dec 28, 2010 23:24:50 GMT -5
Thanks for all the feedback guys, I appreciate that.
Definitely going with 16" and ideally would love to get a SYM 300i, but I'm just not sure if that will fit in the budget this spring.
Thanks for the low-down on some of the water cooled engines. I want to stay with air cooled, for now, then maybe move up to something like the 300i in a few years. The ROAR was attractive for its somewhat smaller size, compared to cruisers, since the vast majority of my riding will be in the city (could have explained that better).
Anyway, thanks for all the help and I'll be reading and doing more research over the next month until I buy.
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Post by kwaidonjin on Dec 28, 2010 23:52:34 GMT -5
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Post by earthman on Dec 29, 2010 0:17:18 GMT -5
just went to that link and saw remote control/alarm.
I have heard a world of bad about them and a world of good about the after market ones.
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Post by jim150 on Jan 4, 2011 9:56:29 GMT -5
Looks just like my 250B which is the larger (257) I believe. Great motor, lots of power. Moves myself (6-1" and 260) very nicely. Leaves a 150 in the dust.
Jim
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