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Post by wolfhound on Jan 11, 2010 21:33:56 GMT -5
Jack, I did not say I ride them. I just keep them in the shop and look at them alot!!!!!8^) David, my hats off to you, man. Get back on the horse and keep riding, that was what I was always told. I spent many yeard going all over the south east doing dog shows as a handler and later as a vendor. Lot of long hours on the road and a lot of hard work setting up and tearing down at the shows. sort of like working in a circus. I was just lucky that I did not buy the farm myself a time or two. Be careful out there. And you are only as old as you feel. I am actually 110.
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Post by WildMan on Jan 11, 2010 21:56:59 GMT -5
Wolfhound I hear ya!! I'm not sure who's in better shape me or my Grandmother, she's 85..
Hay if you can open & read PDF file on your computer, send me a PM w/ your email address, I'll send you a file that my father sent to me.. It's cute, & useful..
David Sr.
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 12, 2010 6:38:58 GMT -5
David, click on my profile and you should find my email address there. I will ask my daughter in law/office manager what a PDF file is?? I are compooter ignerunt
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Post by WildMan on Jan 12, 2010 9:22:44 GMT -5
wolfhound Your email is hidden..
David Sr.
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 12, 2010 11:44:43 GMT -5
Wolfhound...thats funny. By the way, do you handle wolfhounds? Cause I have got a Basset that is really a great fella. My wife is so in love with him that if any thing happened to me (God forbid), I am sure he would get my trike, my truck, all my tools, AND my pillow.
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 12, 2010 20:04:28 GMT -5
David, not any more Its unhidden. Jack, when I first got into Show Dogs my breed as Borzoi(Russion Wolfhound) hence the moniker. As aprofessional Handler in the 70's ands 80's I did show a great many Irish Wolfhounds, a wonderful breed. Not touting for any business but tarabar.com will give you mine and my wifes bio. She judges 6 hound breeds and Jr, Handling. I retired from handling in 87. We have the remnents of the old show kennel still.
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Post by aileronjack on Jan 14, 2010 5:41:58 GMT -5
Wow! That's cool wolfhound. I have a Chaweenie I bet could take your Wolfhound though. lol He's every bit of 6lbs. 7 ona good day.
Well. I finally got my license. What an ordeal. I go for an inspection tomorrow. I was pleasantly surprised that the girl let me take the tests without it. But she did and I am grateful. Once the weather warms up a little I'll tackle the fuel gauge sensor and a few other little things. It's about time to change the oil again. I'm at about 150 miles. My nephew comes in from Marine boot camp in a week. He wants to take a ride. around the ol hood. It's incredible. He was just a 7yr old kid last week. Where was I when he signed up for the Marines? I have never been too concerned about the war on terror knowing the President seemd to have it under control. Now, ... since we have a new President, we have had a terror attack every month since June last year (on American soil!) and I am not sure the President has it under control anymore. I just hope my nephew has gotten the training he needs to stay ahead of the enemy's intent to kill him and anymore of his buddies. Well, enough of all that. Next Tuesday, they are forecasting 69 and sunny here in central Louisiana. What a great day to take a bike ride! You snow bunnies need to come down here and getchya some this stuff.
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Post by wolfhound on Jan 14, 2010 6:48:24 GMT -5
69 degrees. As Sylvester girl thingycat would say, you are dispicable!!!! 8^) Our toy breed is Italian Greyhounds and I have a couple that can outrun anything on the place. My 16 year old grandson is in ROTC and plans to join the Marines once he is out of school. He would be the 4th generation in my wifes family to make the military a careeer. Sadly the worst is yet to come regarding terrorest attacks on this country. We can only hope for swift action on our part. My tranny problems started around 300 miles. Let us know if you have a simular problem.
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Post by WildMan on Jan 14, 2010 11:31:04 GMT -5
aileronjack Hay, I've got a better Idea, just load that heat up on that trike & bring it to NY State, & while you here, we can do some scootering too!!
Ya, son #2 has 6 years in the army, just came back from Iraq.. He's a Sargent.. Still waiting to see what direction he's going to take, he seem to really like giving orders & giving discipline to the men.. I got a kick out of this, He calls his mother on the cell phone while his problem guy's were pulling him around in a boat swimming.. ;D Funny thing of it is, that's similar to how I'd discipline the boys when they were little.. So I think he like the other shoes better.. ;D
David Sr.
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Post by aileronjack on Feb 1, 2010 12:45:53 GMT -5
"WHO DAT" !!!!!!!!!!! What a collossal crok of $**T. The NFL has tried to rob ownership of our native Louisiana battle cry! What the hey!!! is anything sacred anymore?
I have never seen such an incredible show of team spirit in all my years of team sports. From high school basketball, football, or baseball I have never witnessed anything like it. My wife and I were in the mall yesterday. Everyone, and I mean everyone, (babies to grandpaws) had on some version of a Saints team clothing item. We decided to check out the jerseys in a Hibbet Sports". $80 for a small Drew Brees black number 9 jersey!!!! A year ago you could've gotten them for $20.
I have to admit, though, that I have betrayed the team. It's been kinda like sleeping with one eye open though. The years since the brown bags have been hard ones. I was a real Saints fan back then. That's also the about the time that "Who Dat" was first uttered by we Cajuns. But, because of the loosing seasons, one right behind another, I fell to the ranks of a lowly casual observer. One who might ocassionally pic up a sports section; or one who in casual conversations asks "How are the Saint's doing this season?" And the reply was....well....disheartening at best. The sports announcers seemd to always know instinctively where to inject a little "Saints humor"; which cast the team in the expected light it was intended. For instance,
Legand has been tole it... dat Boudreaux died and waent to Heaven. When he waent, he took dat elebator dat takes forever to go all de way to da top? When de dore open, dere was Saint Pete dere who said AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaEEEEEEEEEEEE BoudreaueaueaueauX!!!!!!!!!! whe been watchen you all dis tyime and maaaan are we glaad to see yeaux. Come on in and let me answer any questions you may have. Boudreaux, he followed Saint Pete and scratched his head and said "Well, now that you offer, I kinda tought dat I would like to see Hell........." A silence fell.....(hush).......and Saint Pete said..........."Excuse me" ..... Boudreaux, but it sounded like you said you wanted to see Hell" "Uuuuuh, well, hmmmmm, said Boudreaux. "I was just wondering if it was like Sister Thereaza tole me all de tyime." The silence was very loud........................ After what a second, Saint Pete smiled and said "Hokay Boudreaux, since hit's you, hit'll be hokay. Get back on dat elebator, and hit de doown button. When it get to de bottom whad ever you do, donn step out. Now, dat's important Boudreaux, you GOT DAT?!!" "Yeah, Yeah", said Boudreaux So Boudreaux, he got on de elebator and he hit de doown button. De elebator took what forever to go doown. When hit finally touched to de bottom de bell did "diiiing" and de dore open. Boudreaux, remembered wht Saint Pete had tole him and he juuuuust poked his head out. "Woooow!" he said....He scratched his head and said "No, dis caint be right. Dis is not what Sister Thereaza tode me all my life. There's Ice everywhere!!!!" He poke his head back in and hit dat "Up" button and again it took what forever to go back up. Waehn it got back to de top, dat bell said "diiiiing" and de dore open. Dere was Saint Pete wit a smile in his face and he said. "AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! Boudreaux we glaad to see you man. We were all hopen dat you didn' step out. Did you fnd out what Sister Thereaza tode you? Boudreaux said "No......not really Saint Pete....Maan, dere was Ice everywhare." Saint Pete said "What!!? dere was ice everywhare? Whas dat you say Boudreaux?" He said "Ya, ice everywhare"... Saint Pete put his finger to his chin and said " Oooooooh Yeaaaaaaah dat's right Boudreaux. Maan, Boudreaux, when you were on your way doown. Dem Saints.......Dey won dat Superbowl.
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Post by shalomdawg on Feb 1, 2010 13:26:16 GMT -5
howdy there aileron, you might check outa da winder cause i think ya gots one aileron up and the other down alla time---lol lotsa miles and smiles to ya
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Post by cosmo3405 on Feb 1, 2010 19:08:42 GMT -5
65+mph on my 150cc trike Hi. I'm the owner of a Roketa MC-104 trike which is the same as the ice bear. I've made several modifications and enhancements that are relatively easy to do and I will share them with you so you can get some decent performance from your trike like I am now enjoying. Here's what I did: 1. Short incremental engine breakin with oil change after third run at heavy throttle. You can find details of this online like I did. 2. Application of synthetic grease to the rear differential and wheel bearings-- mine took 4 tubes and now glides and makes little if any noise. 3. Change the transmission fluid to a full synthetic. 4. Change motor oil to full synthetic. 5. Upgrade the battery to the size originally supplied with the Honda Reflex which this machine is a knock of of. The batter mine shipped with is under-sized and lower in amps for cranking and running. 6. Polish the intake manefold and exhaust pipe right off the cylinder head. I found both to have irregularities and the welding irregularities of my exhaust exit was actually constricting flow. 7. Remove the restrictive insert on the end of the exhaust pipe-- simple, but makes a large performance gain. 8. Purchase and install a high quality no-rev limit CDI. I went through 3 of these until I found one that actually worked like it was supposed to. This engine is capable of 12,000 rpm. 9. Upgrade your variator to something like the Dr. Pulley. I used this brand variator with 12g. weights and upgraded to a kevlar/poly belt. There are no 100% kevlar belts sold in the US. These are only available outside the country. I'll leave that to someone else to explain why. 10. Replace the airfilter to something really large like a Uniflow.
That's for the most part it. If you do these 10 little steps you will certainly have a better performing machine. I enjoy passing cars in mine and have good power climbing hills in my neighborhood. Gas mileage is really good, too. Enjoy! Mike
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Post by als01seville on Feb 1, 2010 20:46:44 GMT -5
Como3405, First let me Welcome you to the forum and glad to hear of another Triker. You will find that we have a lot of experience with the Trikes. Have teared the rear ends apart and everything. So if you have a problem we probably have already run into it and have a solution or at least a suggestion. Have to say My Ice Bear PST150H is running like a top. Me and my Brother-In law have had ours since June of 2008 and have been riding all summer into even NOVEMBER:)
Not to blow your bubble but 65+U.S MPH with your changes is hard to swallow, now if you are saying 65+MPH in Chinoometers then we all agree to that. The trikes out of the Crate will only do 50U.S mph. I have the same Trike but from Ice Bear its the PST150H. Now I have a lot of mods on mine as well and so far it will only do 55mph and thats U.S mph not the chino numbers. I have the Racing Prodigy Variator & Fan with 12G Sliders and a Gates Powerlink belt, Iridium Plug, Perromance Coil, and Purple CDI no rev limit. I am not saying that the Trikes cannot do 65+U.S MPH but I have to question the 65+U.S MPH with the changes you mentioned. At what RPMS are you at WOT at 65mph.
The reason I question the 65+U.S mph claim is the only thing difference in yours and mine is Removing the retrictive insert on the end of the exhaust pipe. And one other Triker Dwild62 has even built a bigger Head Pipe and has built three Free Flow Mufflers, he even put on a DRAG PIPE and neither of us can get the mph you are claiming.
Put up pictures of your Trike and what you did to your muffler and what your carb and filter look like. Around here we need PROOF OF CLAIMS of performance and pictures so that if its true then we all learn and others can get the same results.
Me and another Triker DWILD62 he has the PST150-11 Trike have been experimenting with the trikes and we are going to put on TALLER TIRES on the rear. My tires are arriving this Wed and Dwild62's are arriving this thursday. And this is because we want to REACH 60+U.S MPH. Alleyoop
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Post by cosmo3405 on Feb 2, 2010 12:47:45 GMT -5
Hi Alleyoop, Thanks for your comments. I know it is hard to believe, but it is actually true that my trike is performing like this. I'll be happy to post some photos for you so you can see my trike, the carb and filter in place. I did make a switch to the iridium plug and high performance coil, but did not find that they made a difference until I switched out the battery. I also have changed all bulbs for LED's and upgraded to a HID xenon light set because I was outdriving my headlights. I'll take some photos later this week for you. Also, I upgraded the rear shocks to YSS because there are control issues with the rigid factor shocks at higher speeds. Do you know how to post them on this site? I haven't really looked around that much. Appreciate your help. Mike
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Post by cosmo3405 on Feb 2, 2010 12:52:00 GMT -5
Alleyoop... forgot a portion of my response to you. I am at 65mph with 8200 rpm. I guess I can pace with another car, but I have been easily passing cars. It made a big difference to grease the differential with synthetic. The bike really glides if you lub the differential and wheel bearings. There are some 8 or 10 mm nuts on the rear axle you can remove and shoot grease in to get the outer drive shaft and bearings. There is also a little nipple in the center of the rear differential that I don't have a gun fitting for. I simply removed it and shot grease right in with a needle nipple. Mike
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Post by aileronjack on Feb 2, 2010 13:56:48 GMT -5
Dang!!!!!!!!!!! 65mph!!!!!!!!!!! That is really unbelievable. If he could shoot a youtube video and post a link to it, I would love to see it on a GPS right next to his speedometer. The 65kph is directly above the 40 mph marker on my speedometer. Thats on the 150-9. With his apparent knowledge of the modifications, I am sure he knows how to read the difference. You go dawg!!
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Post by WildMan on Feb 2, 2010 16:03:21 GMT -5
Mike Well, I can tell you one thing, if you used 4 tubs of grease for the differential, you wasted 3 1/2 tubes of grease.. I'll guarantee, you have grease clear out to the hubs, the axle bearings are sealed, & there's nothing between the differential & the axle bearings.. You're going to have a nice mess, if you leave it there, eventually it'll get dry & caked.. You might want to consider pulling the axles & trying to pull that excess grease out of there while you can still save it & put it to better uses.. I've greased my differential & I've had mine completely apart after greasing it, so I know exactly how much grease you have in there..
David Sr.
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Post by cosmo3405 on Feb 2, 2010 16:31:23 GMT -5
David, I hope everyone reads your important points. It would be terrible if I somehow misled anyone and caused harm to their trike. I should mention that I used a synthetic grease purchased at Harbor Frieght in 4 or 6 oz. tubes, which is actually small. It was the only readily available source for me for the synthetic. I'm particularly fond of the sythetics after reading the superior performance characteristics of them. The consistency and appearance are different from regular grease. They resist breakdown from what I have read. I should also mention that the lion's share of the grease I used went into the central grease fitting of the differential unit. As for the wheel bearings, my Roketa bearings were dry as a bone. They were making noise and I found the castle nuts loose, introducing some wobble and play after a hundred or so miles. I used about a half a tube of grease for each rear bearing. The results are a silky smooth ride and absolutely no noise now. I hope everyone will read your cautions and ask specific questions about their particular trike so they can benefit from your expertise. Mike
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Post by als01seville on Feb 2, 2010 18:23:10 GMT -5
Mike, The numbers just do not add up, 65mph at 8200 rpms with 12g rollers. I have tried weights from 10g to 13g weights. The Trike came with 10G rollers and would top out at 8200 rpms with a no Rev limiter CDI. Now for every Roller Weight size up or down you will gain or loose 500-600 rpms. 12g rollers you will be around 6800-6900 rpms at WOT and you can match those RPMS with 13G SLIDERS. With Sliders you gain or loose 200-350 Rpms less than with rollers. The wheel bearing are sealed so the grease you put in there is just going to gather dirt and dust its not doing anything to the bearings. The bearings are pressed fix onto the AXLE and both sides of the bearings are sealed. As for the TWO screws one on top and one on the bottom on each side of the Axle Tub they hold a floating ring which is about 1/2 in in width. This ring stops the AXLE from coming out completly if it loose. The Axle itself has a piece of pipe welded to the AXLE right next to the Floating ring held in place by the two screws and thats what keeps the axle from moving out any further than that. Dwild62 and I have taken the AXLE completly apart so we know what we are talking about. So filling up the TAXLE TUBE with grease is not doing anything but accomulate dirt dust and get caked up like Dwild62 said. The differential we have taken it apart as well and we both have filled it with grease to lube the 4 Spider gears. Now if since you mentioned the Castle Nuts where loose that means that the AXLE has moved out a little. And if not fixed right away the HUB will be ruined. Now to fix that you need to ADD a thick WASHER behind the Castle NUT and tighten it up and put the Cotter Pin in to hold the NUT in place. If it again comes loose then you have to ADD ANOTHER WASHER until it will no longer comes loose. So all in all I personnaly do not buy the 65 U.S MPH especially at 8200 rpms with 12G rollers. If thats what your speedometer is reading then your speedometer is off like 10mph to fast. 55mph I will believe that but not 65. So to if you do not have a GPS the next thing would be Speed Radar, or depending where you live some police put up those Speed indicators that have the radar built in them to let people know what there speed is to slow them down. The other thing is have a friend drive down the street say at 40mph and you behind him and then you can check your speedometer and rpms and see what it reads. But that is usually not very accurate but close. To put photos up, logon onto www.photobucket.com/ and sign up free and then you can download your photos into it. Once you get your photos there you go to the IMG. link under the photo and copy the link then come to the forum and past it. Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Feb 2, 2010 19:36:37 GMT -5
MIke, Forgot one thing, the reason you were hearing the noise by the wheel is because the axle had moved out and the hub was loose making your wheel wobble. Believe I know I went through it back in JUNE OF 2008. As a matter of fact you can look at my ICE BEAR PST150H TRIKE thread and you will see pictures of the axle and the washer behind the Castle Nut.
And here is another thing, if all of a sudden you hear metal to metal clinking by your CVT its that the Nut on the Variator came loose and whats banging against the CVT cover is your Variator Fan and your PULL START ALUMINUM CUP. If that happens you will probably fine that the ends of the Variator Fan FINS are partly eaten up and you wil find metal bits all over inside your CVT. Alleyoop
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Post by cosmo3405 on Feb 3, 2010 0:17:22 GMT -5
Alleyoop, Thanks for all the info. Maybe my speedometer is off, but I have taken the trike the highway and have been passing cars. I've had it up to 105kph, but I've been hesitant to go any faster. I don't know anything about the speed rating on the tires and the thing is made in China. I did have the variator nut fall off the first week into operation because no one put a lock washer on the nut. It scared the hell out of me when it happened. I'm not exactly anxious to get myself killed. I just intended to run errands around town. Now it has giddyup and I've been riding it alot. People were pulling out in front of me at night so I added additional lights and changed the original headlights for HID xenons. I'm sorry I don't have a gps like someone suggested to verify the speed thing. I'm going to leave that up to the guys who have one. It is really possible to get this thing running faster with all the things people are doing. It sure surprised me. I'm posting some photos like you asked. It's cold and I'm too lazy this evening to take the inner seat panel off for photos of the carb and air filter. I'm happy to do that later in the week. Didn't mean to create any ruckus. I was just excited that the thing runs so much better and quieter than when I started. I wanted to share the experience. When I exceeded the 100km/h listed in the owner's manual I was really surprised. Mike i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae254/cosmo3405/Myscootertrike-1.jpgi977.photobucket.com/albums/ae254/cosmo3405/Myscootertrike2.jpgi977.photobucket.com/albums/ae254/cosmo3405/Myscootertrike3.jpg
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Post by als01seville on Feb 3, 2010 1:48:19 GMT -5
Mike, Well ours are Speed Rated at 87MPH. Look on your rear Tires they should be INNOVA RACER 18-10-10 then you will also see 225/10-10 followed by 32N. The 32 is the max load which is 247lbs and the N is 87mph speed rating.
Take a picture of what you did to the Muffler to unrestrict it.
Now You have to understand, there are like 8 of us with Trikes and NOBODY has results like you claim with JUST the changes you did. So thats why we question your claims of the MPH and EVEN the RPMS with the 12g weights. Now you understand you are claiming greater speed on a 353 lb Trike with 10" Drive wheels and 150cc CY6 engine than some 250cc 2 wheel scoots with 13" wheels and less wieght.
Also take a picture of your FRONT SPROCKET maybe yours came with a Sprocket with more teeth. But I bet your speedo is off because the other questional claim is that you are running 8200 rpms with 12g rollers. 12g rollers in there you should be running 6800-6900 rpms max. So you can see why we are questioning the results with what you did.
Dwild62 and I have tried many combinations of weights from 10g all the way up to 13G Sliders. So we know what rpms are gotten with each weight and your 12g rollers do not jive with what you are saying your rpms are.
We need Pictures and Proof or if you can find something that is different with your trike that did not come with ours. Alleyoop
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Post by als01seville on Feb 3, 2010 2:25:24 GMT -5
MIke, What are the numbers on your Rear Tires there should be two numbers one in inches like 22x10-10 and another in metric like 255/60-10. Alleyoop
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Post by cosmo3405 on Feb 3, 2010 11:28:31 GMT -5
Alleyoop, There was a barrel washer in the exhaust exit held in place by a 10mm machine screw. The washer is about 5/8" thick and the opening thru it is much smaller than the exhaust pipe at the cylinder head. I'll take a photo this week for you of the part that is easily removed and also the muffler. I also took the muffler to a car exhaust shop and had someone weld all the seams shut-- I didn't like the noise and you could feel exhaust escaping at all the seams and rivets. It made the bike quieter. After removing the washer I describe on the end, the bike had a little deeper exhaust sound and I noticed an immediate gain in acceleration. I'm assuming it is the same stock muffler as on the Ice Bear.
As for the weights, I'm using the Dr. Pulley 12g weights. They are flat. I put a little lithium grease on the weights and variator, along with the shaft thinking it might help them glide easier and my father always told me the grease is good for higher temps. I noticed that old belt wore at a slightly different angle than the old variator so I changed it to a powerlink. I really wanted a 100% Kevlar belt, but they are only made by Gates Europe and you cannot purchase one here. The best you can do is a kevlar/poly belt. I wonder why this is.
I'll take a photo of my front sproket. I have adjusted the chain several times to the manufacturers specifications. I have lubricated it with synthetic grease.
Early on before making changes I noticed the 6800-6900 rpm ceiling with my bike, but also noticed that I would get past this ceiling with the stock bike when the outside air temperature was colder--- easily to 9,000 rpm, but the bike was not safer at highter speeds and I thought everything would vibrate loose. I dropped fender bolts, my exhaust bolts, a rear wheel cap, variator cover bolts and parts to my airfilter on the pavement. It was an exercise in patience to take things apart, lock tight them or place lock washers on things. I also bought a small torque wrench on ebay and torqued everything to the specs I found for the GY6. I have no idea why I am able to obtain higher rpms than you say I should. Does the break in have anything to do with this? Maybe someone else can answer this.
As for the rear tires they are ISP or IST tires and the markings are 205/30-12.
I hope this information helps someone with their trike. It is a real exercise in patience. I'm almost convinced they might be assembled by child labor in China. Who else would not think of tightening critical bolts for safety. My bolt of the handlebars to the forks almost fell off. There was no lock washer and it was loose.
Anyway... I really like the trike and I believe with everyones input it can be a really great ride. I think I have to adjust my valves here real soon because I've got about 1,700 miles on mine already. I found a small turbo charger from Japan with a Chinese knock off online the other day. I'm wondering what that would do for the ride.
Mike
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Post by als01seville on Feb 3, 2010 12:24:53 GMT -5
Mike, I think we just found the difference, and you know what it is!!!! YOUR REAR TIRES:) THATS WHERE YOUR GETTING THAT EXTRA SPEED:) You have 12" RIMS, ours only have 10" RIMS!!! I knew their had to be an answer and why you where so sure yours could crank at 65mph and ours only 55mph. Yep the extra taller tires will give you a lot more speed. Because just the changes you made and we made will only get you around 5mph more.
The RIMS being 12" also explains the difference in RPMS at different speeds with the 12g weights.
Thanks Mike, now we won't doubt you anymore:) Sorry for all the questions and doubts but like I said there are about 8 of us and nobody can even claim 60mph:)
One more thing mike Get the Name of the Tire so we can see if we can find those. Also following the 205/30-12 there should be two numbers followed by a letter that tells the max load and Speed Rating. Also there should be the size in inches like 18x10-12 what does that say.
You have got a screamer there my man. Now we just hope ours will crank as well since we ordered bigger tires they will arrive today:) Alleyoop
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Post by cosmo3405 on Feb 3, 2010 13:23:36 GMT -5
Alleyoop, Whew!... I was starting to feel like the lone ranger there-- wondering if someone slipped me a psychedelic mushroom or something. All of the questions of performance with my trike raised some questions in my mind about my riding experiences. If it's the tires, plus the other things that's great! I'll get you the information on my tires that you want and you can tell me about the speed rating on them. I'd also like to know the speed rating on the front tire because a blow out at higher speeds could be a disaster. I'm going to go back and read all your posts and those of the other guys to see if there is anything else I have missed for tweaking performance.
Thanks again for the assurance I'm not halucinating-- The needle really is really going up and past 105km/h. You should be enjoying the same experience soon with your bigger tires. ))) Mike
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Post by WildMan on Feb 3, 2010 13:26:49 GMT -5
Mike Time to add my 2 cense now... I haven't read anything yet that was bad, that you done.. But, I haven't read anything that would make any difference in speed either.. Now I'm not trying to run you down, just trying to understand it. I plug your tire size into a tire comparison calculator, & the results showed me that your tires are actually .74 mph slower than our 10" tire, so it doesn't appear that the tires are it..
As far as the peice on the muffler, well, that's just decoration.. I did the exact same work to my stock muffler you've done to yours.. I also took that decoration peice off, I also had muffler completely disassembled & there was no difference in size of the baffles vs. the peice of decoration.. Now a glass pack would be different.. I've been expierimenting w/ different mufflers & head pipes, I'm in the process of Custom Building my 2nd muffler right now.. 1st muffler was Stainless Steel Drag Pipe muffler w/ 1 1/4" diameter silencer core (glass pack), 2nd muffler is a 3" diameter x 12" L mild steel muffler w/ 1 1/4" diameter baffle core, both mufflers w/ a slightly bigger then stock Stainless Steel Head Pipe.. I have seen some top speed gain, but I've had problems keeping them (not losing them do the vibration breakage) which keeps putting a damper on the re-jetting process.. I've made modifications the way the exhaust system mounts, & need to make another change, & when I get that worked out I can get on w/ the jetting..
So to sum it up, what you've down we or I have already done plus more..
Like I said, I don't think anyone is trying to run you down, but pictures w/ as much detail as possible w/ explanation, coupled w/ proof of GPS vs. speedo & tach readings, would surely back up your claims, & everyone could also benifit.. What's making it hard to believe is the fact that so far all of us trike owners are having the same problems & getting nearly the same results, w/ the exception of your claims.. Now I grant you, I've made a couple of claims as well but untill I can get through the jetting process & get my mods stable, I can't back up any claims for sure either..
David Sr.
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Post by cosmo3405 on Feb 3, 2010 16:23:49 GMT -5
David, Thanks for the post and for your expertise. I really don't have an explanation for you. Maybe my speedometer is amiss. When my trike arrived and I took it for some runs I was disappointed with it and started tinkering. After reading and tinkering it is not the same scooter now. I arrived at this performance point quite by accident. I don't know what one thing is making a difference here. Does location, road surface, altitude, temperature, fuel or other factors have anything to do with with the speed I'm getting? I have no idea. I don't take offense that you have questions. I'm not going to get beaten up by anything anyone says. I don't have anything at stake here. I don't know enough about tires to know if they are a factor or not. You sound like you know a heck of alot more about the mechanics and physics here than I do. I open to all the suggestions on how to verify these results for you. But I have no other explanation to what my tachometer and speedometer show me if there are indeed correct. Mike
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Post by WildMan on Feb 3, 2010 18:50:25 GMT -5
mike Here's what I say, If it's performing to your satisfaction & if it's really doing 65 mph, then I say if it ain't broke don't fix it.. Quit while you're ahead..
David Sr.
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Post by als01seville on Feb 4, 2010 0:10:53 GMT -5
Mike, Lets start with the Tires because that would DEFINITLY MAKE a difference in Top Speed and Rpms readings. The other stuff you did like Dwild62 pointed out would not have gotten you the 65MPH speeds maybe around 5mph more. But with bigger tires you could easly pick up 10mph and the rpms reading would be different.
So go out to your garage and right down the numbers and post them. They should be like i mentioned show something like 18x11-12 or something like 255/60-12 or both numbers and usually after the like the 255/60-12 are TWO NUMBERS FOLLOWED BY A LETTER.
Those are the numbers we are looking for. Do not go by what the Dealer specs say which in your case show 205/30-12, they are usually wrong. Mine said that it had 12" tires and it has 10". Alleyoop
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