The storm does come with the 244 CF Moto clone engine. I don't understand though why you would be worried about the 244 in a 150 frame. Differences would be about 6" less wheelbase, and less plastics - body panel design has no effect whatsoever on the scooter - it'll perform just like the 250 would.
jrryan: Sorry to bring up an old subject. I've only been a Chinascoot rider for a few months and only on these forums for that long. I didn't realize this has been discussed before. I'll search next time.
That is not my picture. I simply linked to it. Can't resize it. Deleted it from my previous post.
Big Guy: I meant frame, not body panels. I am no engineer, so I put it out there so someone smarter than me can fill me in. Is the small, steel, frame strong enough to last?
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I like this scooter. I would have bought this instead of my 150cc. I didn't start out with a 250cc Chinese scooter because I don't like the bulkyness of maxi-scoots. However, I see that this isn't California legal. Are there any like this that have the carb approval? That engine looks identical to the one in my Honda Elite.
Post by scootinkev on Jan 21, 2010 16:31:06 GMT -5
My first scoot was a chinese 250 in the sport frame just like that one. It had a Komoto name on it and they all had overheating problems that couldn't be worked out. This particular brand used 2 small radiators that were mounted in bad places. One under the front cowling and the other just under the front of the seat. Neither place had good air flow. It was an 07 that I bought in 08 and it was shipped with fluid in the cooling system that had rust and corrotion. I would be very wary of that scoot being an 06 and sitting around with fluid for 4 years.
Last Edit: Jan 21, 2010 16:32:41 GMT -5 by scootinkev
My 1st Scoot - '07 Komoto Sport 250cc, 8/5/08 - 8/30/08 "Beauregard"
Post by scootinkev on Jan 22, 2010 12:06:15 GMT -5
@ evilgenious: Please tell me you are kidding. If you take a turd and wrap it in aluminum foil, you would still have a P.O.S..... that would shine in the sun. Please see my earlier post.
cruiser66: The scoot at Wildfire is the exact brand I mentioned in my earlier post. That is priced alot higher than I paid 2 years ago. The Komoto 250 Sport scooters all had overheating problems. The dealer I bought from stopped carrying them because they all had overheating problems that could not be worked out due to bad engineering.
My 1st Scoot - '07 Komoto Sport 250cc, 8/5/08 - 8/30/08 "Beauregard"
Yea, scootinkev, that model has been around for years. It's hard to see anyway this scoot could work with a liquid cooled engine in a body designed for air cooled engines. Nice to hear from an actual owner.
kev: That's funny...I don't recall saying anything about how it would run, quality, or longevity. I said it was SHINY. Like all mammals, people can't resist shiny things. Put a shiny thing next to the same thing, only not shiny, and which is going to get the attention? I saw the ad, clicked on it when I read it was a 250 sandwiched in there, saw the picture and said "Ooh! Shiny!"
Indeed, I was kidding. Silver Surfer? Big shiny guy? Hell-oo? ;D
It's still a CF Moto clone, good engine and just by looking at the layout of the scooter it wouldn't be a big deal to re-design the radiator to keep it cool! Even the CF Moto version of the 250 has the radiator behind the gas tank and even Big Guy mentioned he reworked his to run cooler without any problem.
If I could steal this scooter on the Ebay bid I wouldn't hesitate to get it because of the radiator issue but that's me, one I'm retired and have the time, two I for sure know how and three it could be done very in-expensively! JRR
Hello all, first post and brand new member. I bought this ebay chrome beast. cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Storm-Scooter-250cc-New-Loaded-Remote-Start-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ330401375548QQcmdZViewItemQQptZScooters_Mopeds I have actually never even ridden before(picked it up with a Ryder truck). Just passed my written exam for my learners permit and was trying to find info about this as it does not come with a manual(except for the broken English directions for the anti theft and wireless start) I have already read over the extensive and most appreciated instructions for first prepping a bike linked elsewhere on this site by Big Guy .....most appreciated. Mine was uncased and assembled. Odometer says three miles. Best I can tell from the title: It was originally titled by a dealership in Pennsylvania(my home state and a town not too far away), was then sold at auction(best I can tell the dealership no longer exists), was bought at auction by the car lot and another individual (jointly) that I bought it from(they are in Maryland) and I brought it back to PA. It's registered and insured. It is listed as being produced by ZHEJIANG LINGYUN and it has "Storm 250" on the outside of it. I tried looking for a manufactures website and all I came up with was one for a brand called Lon-V . Conveniently, the link for the English version is broken. While searching I also found many links for them on B2B sites and most of those seem to be frozen by the websites themselves. So anyway, Here I am with a scooter I know nothing about(make and model specific anyway) and I just found you guys while searching for more info. Any two cents would be greatly appreciated about this bike or company or generally speaking. Scooters in general and this one specifically I am ready to learn about and get my hands dirty so I am not necessarily looking for some one to dump my problems on but as I said...I am very new to two wheel transportation. Incidentally, I got this with the intention of delivering pizza on it during the summer so any advice there(like does anyone make aftermarket boxes for said job and how do you keep the cheese from sliding when you turn) would be greatly appreciated.
equidave - there were some posts on that one when it went on e-bay. Look back earlier in this thread. The "dealer" I'm thinking about was "Pa Buildpro" in Mechanicsburg. It looks like they buy surplus and ebay it. They were running a used car dealership on the Carlisle Pike and the building supply on Trindle Road. I asked some friends of mine down there to check them out but they didn't find them.
If you go over to the general forum, there's a link to VIN's. You may be able to find more info about the manufacturer there. So many of the scoots have interchangeable parts that you can probably find what you need from another supplier. You'll have to be your own mechanic though. The other dawgs are always glad to help. Given the things ancestry, make sure you do a good PDI.
I remember when we saw it that it was kind of strange looking like they took left over 250 engines and put on 150 frames. The specs were kind of strange too.
By the way - welcome to the forum and ride safely! If I read correctly, you're in PA. I hope you're all set with Pa licensing requirements. You said you intend to do pizza deliveries? Check the regs - you can't ride it at night until you have your class M license.
Take the PA safety course- it's well worth and doesn't cost us like it does in other states.
Thank you for the promt reply and welcome. With me being brand new to scooters I really couldn't say what dispacement size of a body it is. Can tell ya that it is bigger than what i imagined from the Ebay pics. I do totally agree after spend most of yesterday surfing the world wide wierd that I am breaking it all down and prepping it before I ride it. Right now the battery is still dead so I haven't even heard it run yet! Rocking it back and forth though I have discovered that it does have some gas in it(maybe 1/4 tank....it's a 2 1/2 gal tank). Was wondering if anyone has suggestion on what to do here. Should I drain it and if so how? Or; would it be better to just throw some gas wetter in there and go with it?
Otherwise, to answer your question I'm in York City, PA. I do plan on delivering with this scooter. I have my permit right now and do not plan to deliver till I get my class M. I work 10am-10pm Mon-Sat so the whole dawn-to-dust thing just wouldn't work. I do plan to do most(hopefully all) work myself as I'll be putting 750-1,000 mile/week on this puppy. Really don't want to think about garage bills if someone else was changing my oil every week. Heck, not even so sure I could find a garage around here to do it and is trust worthy to do so correctly. The whole reason(well....primary reason) I am doing this is financial. right now, even with an '09 Hyundai Accent I still spend between $25-$35/day on gas.(I only use Shell premium) With the scooter I hope to spend maybe $5-$6/day. Figure a $20-$30/day raise for half the year AND I get to ride.....can't really go wrong there. Still wondering if anybody out there has info or experience with pizza delivery on a scooter. I have been searching and comming up pretty much empty. I forget who makes it at the moment but I had found a company that produces scooters specifically for pizza delivery(infact Dominoes uses them overseas) that come with a pizza box build into the frame standard. However, they ony came in 50 and 150 cc(I'm over 6ft and 200lbs with a ten mile delivery radius and lots of hills) and the built in carry box only fit 14inch pies(we deliver up to 18inch) I'm in talks right now with a local sign shop about custom building one(maybe more depending on cost, satisfaction with end product, universal adaptability, and demand....I know at least one pizza boy who wants one!) I would just like to see a working one due to curiousity about "how do you keep the pies from tilting and the cheese sliding". Otherwise, it's a two seater so I figure I can have the box come over the back half of the seat wich should be plenty room to accomadate a box capable of housing 5-6 18in pies and still have a compartment for 2 litres and bagged food.
Also, Big Guy(if you see this obviously), are you saying definatively that these "Storms" come with the 244 CF Moto clone engine? With the amount of use I intend to get out of this puppy I'll probably have to replace everything but the frame at some point or another. I've been doing some looking around and found (I believe it was your post) a post for identifiy 250cc chinese engines but the pics didn't load and till I get the body shell off and begin to play with it I'm not so sure from the written discritpions(I'm a very visually oriented fellow). Again, Big Guy, thank you for the preride prep instructions for chinese scooters. I was already figuring on half of what you have given instruction for but would have never thought of some of it like the silicone sealing and checking the weild points on the frame.
Personal opinion here.....a 150cc scoot is plenty for delivering pizzas, unless you live in the mountains. But you will have to construct a custom carrier if you actually want to carry 5 18" pizzas and some other stuff. I've seen that scooter with the built in pizza carrier. It's neat, but won't handle what you intend. But I think you'd fit in it ok.....I sat on it (6'4" 230lbs), and almost fit.
However....I'd think you would have reliability issues if you actually put on that many miles per week. You'd be changing oil all the time, wearing out tires, etc. My 2c....
Equidave - I'm familiar with York. I worked in Harrisburg for 6 1/2 years before I retired. My son went to York College for a year and my brother's wife is from York,
Good luck getting it up and running and getting your class M. Just a suggestion - truck on over to Harbor Freight and get a Battery Tender and install it. Then plug your scoot in to keep it charged. $30 bucks now beats buying new batteries.
Good idea on the battery tender CCProf. As for the reliability issues bluefront; I now have to do an oil change every 3-4 weeks for a car and I can easily go through 4-6 Khumo tires on it in a year. Even if i have to put $1,000 additional dollars into repairing/rebuilding a scooter every year so that I can use it for 5-6 months I'm still saving money in the big picture with the fuel savings AND I get to ride a scooter for work! Once you through in the miles, wear-n-tear, oil and tires I wont be paying for on my car for 6 mo's well......
I know I am comparing apples to oranges when I say this but the Scicilians I work for all tell me about the scooters from back home lasting forever(obviously not chinese scooters). I do admit that this is quite the experiment but for a newbie I am going to tackle this as resposibly as I can. I am prepared to prep it like BigDog has posted and I intend to order extra parts(brake pads, tires, gas line and filters, tassels for the handlebars....just kidding) from the start to have ready when needed. As for oil changes, I speak only form my experience with changing car oil and from what I have read about changing scooters, it looks like it only takes ten minutes. If I need to change it every week once it's broken in I am prepared to make that sacrifice. Heck, I spend more time than that standing at the gas pumps every week now!
Again, I am thankful for everyones responses and hope to count on the advice of all the ol' Dawgs on this site as i will probably need it soon enough. Thank You
Sounds fun. I would definately do a few upgrades as soon as you ahve the money and think ahead and plan for your maintinance.
Suggestions: extra fuel pump, belts, brake shoes, light bulbs and oil/gear oil, thottle cable and intake manifold, cdi, plugs. Maybe an extra set of wheels and have a set of tires premounted and ready to go.
Courrier/delivery requires lots of maint which it sounds your aware of. Its a lot easier to be prepared because down time waiting for parts n service is more costly than prebuying items you may/maynot need. -Zug
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marklorenzi: I just bought one of the Fleetwoods. They look like a clone of the Honda XRM's they sell overseas. It is in transit now and I should get it this week. I will try to post my experience here. Call me the guinea pig hahaha.
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