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Post by Kaos on Feb 28, 2009 14:11:42 GMT -5
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Post by silverspar1 on Mar 1, 2009 1:05:48 GMT -5
I have heard of this. What's next bicycles requiring insurance?
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Post by Kaos on Mar 1, 2009 1:17:46 GMT -5
I have heard of this. What's next bicycles requiring insurance? ......and a tag and a license lol Two words: control and revenue. Since the gas prices started climbing after Katrina, so have scooter sales. Now with the economy in shambles, car sales have plummeted and people are doing less driving for pleasure, so less gas sales, and thereby less taxes for the gub'ment to steal...uh, collect. |
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Post by Kaos on Mar 1, 2009 7:39:56 GMT -5
I was doing 42 in a 45 on a 50cc in an urban area and got a ticket for no registration and dwlr anyway which i plan to fight.......you know what the law is and it seems to me this dude just pulled those charges right out of thin air.
I have lived in NC 38 years out of my 38 years on earth, im certainly no illegal lol.
I was furious...according to this cop....it doesnt matter what size the engine is...if it will go over 30, all the same rules apply as if it were a 500 or 1500.......
I plan to fight it. it should have been a speeding ticket on a fixed speed vehicle and NOT that other crap which is not required by law anyhow. it just ruined my entire beautiful sunday ride.
As for being on a fixed income, I am on one...i am disabled and im tapped out every month...insurance on a "motorcycle" will put me over the edge.
-Kaos
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Post by thumper650 on Mar 1, 2009 9:37:43 GMT -5
. I was furious...according to this cop....it doesnt matter what size the engine is...if it will go over 30, all the same rules apply as if it were a 500 or 1500. That's the law here in MA, but it's rarely enforced. As long as you have your little sticker they'll usually let you go. |
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Post by rapidjim on Mar 1, 2009 11:18:04 GMT -5
Here in Wisconsin, "50cc" scooters are registered, titled and plated as a Moped. You are required to have a valid drivers license, but not a motorcycle endorsement. As far as the capable speed is concerned, unless you are speeding, ie doing 40 in a 25, the law enforcement officers don't even bother. They don't look or say, oh there is a Moped doing 45 in a 45. Common sense rules here, thank God.
Jim
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Post by Troll on Mar 1, 2009 12:08:39 GMT -5
Next they'll be trying it in SC
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Post by silverspar1 on Mar 1, 2009 12:44:07 GMT -5
Thought you might want to know that there is also another bill in NC that has passed the first reading that will raise the maximum speed from 30 mph to 50 mph for 50cc scooters. If you can keep this in court long enough, this bill may actually get passed. Google " house bill 166 in NC" to check it out. I live in NC also and this is one bill that I hope they do pass !
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Post by scosgt on Mar 1, 2009 13:14:28 GMT -5
Some NYPD cops helped me one night when I blew a tire. They thought that as long as it's under 150cc no motorcycle license is required. I am not about to educate them.
As far as speed restrictions, NYS law requires a "Class B moped" to top out at 30 MPH and ride in the right lane. So far, I have never heard of anyone having a problem. The one thing the cops look for BIG TIME is motorcycles without a motorcycle drivers license.
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Post by medman1952 on Mar 1, 2009 14:54:33 GMT -5
here in California if it goes over 30, it needs to be licensed. I've heard of the Highway Patrol giving tickets for it even it does not go over 30, they seem to think if it uses the road it needs to be licensed no matter what. I think if you were riding somrthing with pedals though they will look the other way.
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Post by Kaos on Mar 2, 2009 10:38:04 GMT -5
Thought you might want to know that there is also another bill in NC that has passed the first reading that will raise the maximum speed from 30 mph to 50 mph for 50cc scooters. If you can keep this in court long enough, this bill may actually get passed. Google " house bill 166 in NC" to check it out. I live in NC also and this is one bill that I hope they do pass ! I do too...putting along in the morning traffic doing 30 with the world pissed off at you and scooterists like me getting ran over,seems to me the speed increase on a scooter will be causing LESS accidents and saving MORE lives. |
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Post by crossbolt on Mar 3, 2009 6:32:47 GMT -5
Since we each have a scooter and live full-time in an RV I guess we won't be going to South Carolina again. We go to Pidgeon Forge periodically and SC is a short distance from there. We will stay away if they get slushy about scooters.
Karl
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Post by Kaos on Mar 4, 2009 0:24:23 GMT -5
here is some more NC BS....
GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF NORTH CAROLINA
SESSION 2009
H 1
HOUSE BILL 238
Short Title: Require License for Moped. (Public)
Sponsors: Representatives Goodwin; M. Alexander, England, Insko, Killian, McGee, Neumann, Spear, and Tillis.
Referred to: Transportation, if favorable, Finance.
February 23, 2009
*H238-v-1*
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED:
AN ACT TO REQUIRE A DRIVERS LICENSE TO OPERATE A MOPED.
The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts:
SECTION 1. G.S. 20-7(a) reads as rewritten:
"(a) License Required. – To drive a motor vehicle or moped, as defined in G.S. 105-164.3, on a highway, a person must be licensed by the Division under this Article or Article 2C of this Chapter to drive the vehicle and must carry the license while driving the vehicle. The Division issues regular drivers licenses under this Article and issues commercial drivers licenses under Article 2C.A license authorizes the holder of the license to drive any vehicle included in the class of the license and any vehicle included in a lesser class of license, except a vehicle for which an endorsement is required. To drive a vehicle for which an endorsement is required, a person must obtain both a license and an endorsement for the vehicle. A regular drivers license is considered a lesser class of license than its commercial counterpart.
The classes of regular drivers licenses and the motor vehicles that can be driven with each class of license are:
(1) Class A. – A Class A license authorizes the holder to drive any of the following: a. A Class A motor vehicle that is exempt under G.S. 20-37.16 from the commercial drivers license requirements. b. A Class A motor vehicle that has a combined GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds and includes as part of the combination a towed unit that has a GVWR of at least 10,001 pounds.
(2) Class B. – A Class B license authorizes the holder to drive any Class B motor vehicle that is exempt under G.S. 20-37.16 from the commercial drivers license requirements.
(3) Class C. – A Class C license authorizes the holder to drive any of the following:
a. A Class C motor vehicle that is not a commercial motor vehicle.
b. When operated by a volunteer member of a fire department, a rescue squad, or an emergency medical service (EMS) in the performance of duty, a Class A or Class B fire-fighting, rescue, or EMS motor vehicle or a combination of these vehicles.
c. A combination of noncommercial motor vehicles that have a GVWR of more than 10,000 pounds but less than 26,001 pounds. This General Assembly of North Carolina Session 2009 sub-subdivision does not apply to a Class C license holder less than 18 years of age.
d. A moped as defined in G.S. 105-164.3.
The Commissioner may assign a unique motor vehicle to a class that is different from the class in which it would otherwise belong. A person holding a commercial drivers license issued by another jurisdiction must apply for a transfer and obtain a North Carolina issued commercial drivers license within 30 days of becoming a resident. Any other new resident of North Carolina who has a drivers license issued by another jurisdiction must obtain a license from the Division within 60 days after becoming a resident."
SECTION 2. G.S. 20-7 is amended by adding a new subsection to read:
"(a3) Mopeds. – To drive a moped, a person shall have a limited provisional license, a full provisional license, or a regular drivers license."
SECTION 3. G.S. 20-7(a1) reads as rewritten:
"(a1) Motorcycles and Mopeds. Motorcycles.– To drive a motorcycle, a person shall have: (1) A full provisional license with a motorcycle learner's permit; (2) A regular drivers license with a motorcycle learner's permit; or (3) Either: a. A full provisional license; or b. A regular drivers license, with a motorcycle endorsement.
Subsection (a2) of this section sets forth the requirements for a motorcycle learner's permit. To obtain a motorcycle endorsement, a person shall demonstrate competence to drive a motorcycle by: (1) Passing a road test; (2) Passing a written or oral test concerning motorcycles; and (3) Paying the fee for a motorcycle endorsement. Neither a drivers license nor a motorcycle endorsement is required to drive a moped."
SECTION 4. G.S. 20-8 reads as rewritten:
"§ 20-8. Persons exempt from license.
The following are exempt from license hereunder: (1) Any person while operating a motor vehicle the property of and in the service of the armed forces of the United States. This shall not be construed to exempt any operators of the United States Civilian Conservation Corps motor vehicles; (2) Any person while driving or operating any road machine, farm tractor, or implement of husbandry temporarily operated or moved on a highway; (3) A nonresident who is at least 16 years of age who has in his immediate possession a valid driver's license issued to him in his home state or country if the nonresident is operating a motor vehicle in this State in accordance with the license restrictions and vehicle classifications that would be applicable to him under the laws and regulations of his home state or country if he were driving in his home state or country. This exemption specifically applies to nonresident military spouses, regardless of their employment status, who are temporarily residing in North Carolina due to the active duty military orders of a spouse.
(4) to (6) Repealed by Session Laws 1979, c. 667, s. 13.
(7) Any person who is at least 16 years of age and while operating a moped. "
SECTION 5. G.S. 20-10.1 reads as rewritten:
"§ 20-10.1. Mopeds. (a) Unlawful Operation. – It shall be unlawful for any person who is under the age of 16 years to operate a moped, as defined in G.S. 105-164.3 G.S. 105-164.3, upon any highway or public vehicular area of this State. (b) License Required. – It shall be unlawful for any person who is 16 years of age or older to operate a moped, as defined in G.S. 105-164.3, upon any public street or highway of this State without being licensed as a driver pursuant to G.S. 20-7."
SECTION 6. This act becomes effective December 1, 2009, and applies to offenses committed on or after that date.
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Post by Kaos on Mar 4, 2009 0:44:43 GMT -5
Since we each have a scooter and live full-time in an RV I guess we won't be going to South Carolina again. We go to Pidgeon Forge periodically and SC is a short distance from there. We will stay away if they get slushy about scooters. Karl its NC not SC |
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Post by Kaos on Apr 14, 2009 10:25:53 GMT -5
well i just got an email...it seems I got at least one sentator to vote against it.....
his email to me:
Jason, I voted against it.
Neal Hunt
Deputy Republican Senate Leader
District 15 (Wake County)
Legislative Office: 919/733-5850
Business Office: (919) 781-3464
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Post by jamesb69 on Apr 14, 2009 14:24:10 GMT -5
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Post by Kaos on Apr 14, 2009 15:03:06 GMT -5
another email:
Jason, it passed the Senate and now has gone to the House.
Neal Hunt
Deputy Republican Senate Leader
District 15 (Wake County)
Legislative Office: 919/733-5850
Business Office: (919) 781-3464
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Post by Kaos on Apr 14, 2009 15:12:34 GMT -5
The article you gave me is a 100% contradiction of what Deputy Republican Senate Leader Neal Hunt just told me...hmmmm
Dont you just love politicians?
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Post by crazyivan on Apr 14, 2009 21:45:22 GMT -5
dont dog on people with a DWI. we are not all alcoholic, drugaddics, freaking gluesniffing folk. some of dwi convicts keep on drinking like meatheads and driving anything they can with a motor. this is wrong, but do you have to take it out on someone with a DWI? mark them as outcasts? im sorry, but most of the bad rap is given off by retarder 16 year olds that cant get a car(for one reason or another, most of the time the parrents know the kid is too stupid for a car so they dont let them have one)and that go and mod the scoot, dont know how to drive and get in all sourts of sh!t with it. support thoughter DWI laws, not bash on everyone that has one. do you know how much a 160LB male needs to be over the limit? 2.5 beers. think about it
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