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Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibility?
« Thread Started on Sept 4, 2008, 2:48am »
I started this topic elsewhere but it developed into a viable tip.
Affordable Scooter Rear Shock Absorbers Earlier Link

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Wouldn't these shocks appeal to you if the price was <$60/pr?
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #1 on Sept 4, 2008, 6:04pm »
My first recommendation is to note the dimensions of your present shock, overall length of shock, barrel size, die spring length and cross section to start.

You need to remove your shock and measure the present/non-compressed/natural state. As I remember it, most shocks have a 3/3.5" plus/minus play, check your shock. It should be similiar.

I've used EMPI shocks before on dune buggy projects and they never failed me, so why not now use them on scooters.

I'm not trying to circumvent the performance line of super shocks but since I not doing high jumps and racing off road, a standard blend of shock absorber should handle street loads, providing they are derived from familiar and reliable manufacturers. (Bilstein, Monroe, Gabriel, EMPI, KYB, etc.)

For obvious reasons, one can stick to the oem products or use the familiar hi-perf products available today.
This is only intended for those individuals who need a little economic relief from the high cost of parts.

If one should need to work out some specific/tehnical data, 2 heads may be better than 1, pm me.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #2 on Sept 4, 2008, 7:55pm »
My scooter has only a sinlge shock in back, so besides length, what else do I need to know? How do I determine what shock to get?
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #3 on Sept 4, 2008, 9:43pm »
A picture of scoot's suspension and make would help, and if you could follow the link Affordable Scooter Rear Shock Absorbers
Your situation is quite unique but not difficult to work on. Looking forward to your pic and measurements.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #4 on Sept 5, 2008, 2:58pm »
EMPI 9570-8 VW BUG KING PIN ADJUSTABLE COIL OVER SHOCKS

Just won set for $49.99. Now to get it shipped by Parcel Post.
The Tank OEMs were not in stock and BO, so this definitely fitted my needs.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #5 on Sept 5, 2008, 8:44pm »
See Similiar listing

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My total cost shipped to Maui by PARCEL POST is $69.99

Your shipping is less within continental USA.
Hopefully, this will keep your scooter costs affordable.
See Dan's Performance Parts for other possibilities.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #6 on Sept 6, 2008, 7:07pm »
It's going to be a few days before I can post a pic and measurements; I screwed up my back again and getting down on my hands and knees to work on the scoot is contraindicated.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #7 on Sept 7, 2008, 10:10am »
If one knew one's dimensions and needed to look for a place to search for bargains this would be a good place to start or Google.
Shock absorber
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #8 on Sept 8, 2008, 5:00pm »
Found these...

Overload shock absorbers

Check with seller for overall dimensions, eyelet to eyelet and spring D.
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« Reply #9 on Sept 8, 2008, 7:28pm »
OK, here are the pics, left and right sides-[image]

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The shock is about 10 1/2" from eye to eye, as best as I c an measure without removing a lot of stuff to get closer to it.

Sorry about the dirt, my back yard is plain dirt, and even covered the wheels get splashed when it rains (and we had a deluge Sat. night).
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #10 on Sept 9, 2008, 7:20am »
What make and model is your scoot.
What's the diameter of the outer coil spring.
Thanks.

12" shock Check this out. It would be nice if we had the shock or part number to compare.

13" shock This has a maximun compression of 2" leaving 11 1/4", recheck your measurements carefully.
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« Reply #11 on Sept 9, 2008, 5:19pm »
It's an Argo 150-18. I'll measure the spring when it isn't so muddy out back (torrential rain again today, good thing I didn't ride to work!).

I see on the first ebay listing that he says he also has 10 1/2" shocks.

Now, when I've looked at online shops selling shocks, they don't mention anything about a shock being appropriate for single use, or only for applications where there are two. It's the spring that matters for that, right? Or would a single-shock scoot be designed so that the shock is place differently, so the same shock can be used for it? The only single-shock bike I ever had was a Silver Wing, and it had a purpose-built unit, not a standard shock.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #12 on Sept 9, 2008, 6:08pm »
10.5" shocks on ebay, adjustable as well. im thinking about it cause my rear one is WAY to stiff. my fronts are so soft the slightest braking and they bottom out -.-

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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #13 on Sept 10, 2008, 2:50am »

Sept 9, 2008, 6:08pm, meitianman wrote:
10.5" shocks on ebay, adjustable as well. im thinking about it cause my rear one is WAY to stiff. my fronts are so soft the slightest braking and they bottom out -.-

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http://cgi.ebay.com/PERFORMANCE-SCOOTER-....VQQcmdZViewItem

270mm blue :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/PERFORMAN....sspagenameZWD1V



Note that you can adjust the height and stiffness of the shocks. For my scoot, the 16" shocks I ordered is fully adjustable; one can first adjust the height, shorten it and the shock becomes stiffer with less rebound.
You'll need to know the play of your new shock. My has a 6" play, from 16" down to 10". Some are less, so before buying, ask the seller for specs.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #14 on Sept 10, 2008, 2:58am »

Sept 9, 2008, 5:19pm, owenbrau wrote:
It's an Argo 150-18. I'll measure the spring when it isn't so muddy out back (torrential rain again today, good thing I didn't ride to work!).

I see on the first ebay listing that he says he also has 10 1/2" shocks.

Now, when I've looked at online shops selling shocks, they don't mention anything about a shock being appropriate for single use, or only for applications where there are two. It's the spring that matters for that, right? Or would a single-shock scoot be designed so that the shock is place differently, so the same shock can be used for it? The only single-shock bike I ever had was a Silver Wing, and it had a purpose-built unit, not a standard shock.


One has to know the outer spring diameter before buying. It stands to reason since its a mono shock, the spring thickness and rebound rate is greater, doing the work for 2.

When I wanted to carry more, I just replaced the die spring with a slight larger diameter or longer version.

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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #15 on Sept 10, 2008, 3:39am »

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I see on the first ebay listing that he says he also has 10 1/2" shocks


In your case, 12" or 13" is acceptable, not the compressed 10 1/2" on your scoot. Since your's is a mono shock, exact measurements would be helpful, or getting specs from the manufacturer is better.
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« Reply #16 on Sept 11, 2008, 2:41am »

Sept 8, 2008, 7:28pm, owenbrau wrote:
OK, here are the pics, left and right sides-[image]

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The shock is about 10 1/2" from eye to eye, as best as I c an measure without removing a lot of stuff to get closer to it.

Sorry about the dirt, my back yard is plain dirt, and even covered the wheels get splashed when it rains (and we had a deluge Sat. night).


YSS has the shock to fit your scoot.
Click Mono Shock at bottom of page
Let us know what turns out.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #17 on Sept 13, 2008, 5:13pm »
Though these maybe too small for most scoots, one might find one that might work.

MINI SHOCKS

While there, check out the other stuff, you might be pleasantly surprised.

At least, my dog was.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #18 on Sept 25, 2008, 12:07am »
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Just got notification this 10" shock is on its way. $24 to Hawaii.

Scooter Rear Shocks / Shocks / 10 inch Shocks

Got it for a little project I've been working on.

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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #19 on Sept 25, 2008, 9:50am »
Nifty!

I've been laid up for the last couple of weeks, so dealing with the shock has been put on hold until after I move, probably a winter project.
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Re: Affordable Scooter Shocks, Myth or Possibilit
« Reply #20 on Oct 2, 2008, 5:14pm »
Just a little bit of info on adjustable shock absorbers.
Tuning link
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« Reply #21 on Oct 9, 2008, 12:43pm »
Here's another....
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