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Post by jayhammer on Sept 8, 2011 14:32:03 GMT -5
It appears that my 2006 model has pin settings just slightly different then the replacements built after it. Is there an adapter available, or some means by which I can hack it together? Attachments:
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Post by sprocket on Sept 8, 2011 14:35:18 GMT -5
You need to know what the pins did on the old CDI. Is the old one AC or DC? The new one looks like an AC Attachments:
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Post by sprocket on Sept 8, 2011 14:36:27 GMT -5
Typical pin functions... follow the wires back and match them from the old CDI to the new.. if you are certain they are both AC or DC This diagram is for AC type only Attachments:
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Post by fleeter on Sept 8, 2011 14:39:40 GMT -5
wow, sprocket... three minutes flat. you continue to amaze me  |
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Post by sprocket on Sept 8, 2011 14:53:06 GMT -5
Thanks...hope it helps.. you need to do some investigation and match the old wires to your new CDI
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Post by sprocket on Sept 8, 2011 14:55:35 GMT -5
Here is another wiring diagram.. it shows the kill switch wire and the grounds Attachments:
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Post by jayhammer on Sept 8, 2011 14:58:55 GMT -5
Thanks for the quick response. I went out and took a look at the male end of the plug. If I were to plug it back in to the female end, it would line up as follows:
Blk/Y Blu/Y
Blk/R B/W GRN
Since it has one empty slot, I assume that makes it a DC unit? I'm confused because its a smaller unit, not to mention the different plugs. The orange replacement is significantly larger than the black one as well.
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Post by Scooter Elements on Sept 8, 2011 15:02:05 GMT -5
that green plug CDI is the one i sell for Dirt bikes here.
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Post by sprocket on Sept 8, 2011 15:30:14 GMT -5
Here are the pins for the DC CDI.. how you convert them I don't know Attachments:
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Post by jayhammer on Sept 8, 2011 15:47:22 GMT -5
That only accounts for 4 of the pins. Mine has five total.
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Post by sprocket on Sept 8, 2011 15:53:01 GMT -5
I think the 5th pin is for the kill switch...probably the black and white
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Post by fleeter on Sept 8, 2011 15:56:07 GMT -5
I think the 5th pin is for the kill switch...probably the black and white aaaahhh... you don't need that!... ;D |
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Post by jayhammer on Sept 8, 2011 15:59:33 GMT -5
Thank you for posting that picture. I added in the wiring as it relates to the setup on my scooter. Can you please take a look and tell me what goes where? Attachments:
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Post by jayhammer on Sept 8, 2011 16:04:00 GMT -5
So, last question, how do I connect the two together? Cut the old male end and make homemade terminals?
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Post by sprocket on Sept 8, 2011 16:14:36 GMT -5
Why are you changing the CDI in the first place? Is the old one defective? Have you changed the stator?
To hook up the new CDI you will need the correct CDI plug.. and then wire it for the new CDI...
On your diagram you have the red/black and the green ground reversed...
I think you would be better off getting a new DC CDI rather than trying to use the AC type.. it will probably require that you also change the rectifier/regulator
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Post by jayhammer on Sept 8, 2011 16:26:07 GMT -5
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Post by jayhammer on Sept 8, 2011 16:35:14 GMT -5
Sorry for the litany of questions. Scooter parts seem to only grouped by engine type. Someone could make a mint recommending additional components when one is selected. I have the new CDI, new ignition coil, new solenoid, new spark plug. The last component before the stator is the voltage regulator, which should have the male end that is compatible with the CDI unit I purchased (4 pins then 2 pins).
Is there anything else I should test or purchase besides the voltage regulator?
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Post by sprocket on Sept 8, 2011 16:55:24 GMT -5
You need a special double plug for the CDI...
The regulator /rectifier does nothing to run the scooter...it is only there for the lights and battery charging
The AC voltage comes form the stator to the AC CDI on the red and black wire. It is ramped and sent out on the black and yellow wire to the ignition coil. It is ramped to 18,000+++ volts and goes to the plug.
The blue and yellow trigger (pulse) wire from the pick-up coil controls the firing...
The AC CDI needs a ground and a kill switch wire that runs through the ignition switch.. this simply grounds out the CDI to stop the spark and the engine...
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Post by Scooter Elements on Sept 9, 2011 9:31:57 GMT -5
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Post by Scooter Elements on Sept 9, 2011 9:42:09 GMT -5
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