Lance Vintage vs no-name ZNEN

I'm pretty sure Znen makes the Lance scooters.

Exactly, just wondering how Lance decides to spec their's out. Any Lance dealers out there?

I know Timmyjane (sp?) on here that runs scootershopsc.com sells Lance and Znen side by side. He can probably tell you exactly what you need to know.

Her scoot!

I'm looking at kczukiman's photos of his wife's lance vintage, it has the same chrome on it that my il bello has. I like the deep red.

Also, a vintage is not the same as an il bello. The importer of any ZNEN scooter makes hundreds of decisions about the components of the scooter. My question is what decisions does Lance make for its vintage. I'm batting about 500 on people understanding what my question is.

That Vintage looks nice kczukiman. You don't happen to know how many poles are on its stator do you?

USF,I'm sorry I don't know the number of poles on the stator.When we purchased her bike the better stator was one of the selling points but I ust don't remeber how many poles it is.

usf, the biggest single difference between various incarnations of a particular model Znen will be dealer and importer support. As you found out, there are no guarantees that support will be painless regardless of the name on the scooter.

I think the best you can do is go check out the dealers with your eyes wide open and let your instincts guide you. Check BBB ratings and various forum comments too.

IIRC, you had problems with dealer support on your Fly but the importer helped you out. That sounds better than average.

That's encouraging kczukiman. It sure does sound many of the ZNENs have the upgraded stator.

My brother and I went down to San Diego yesterday and looked a bunch of Lances and no-name ZNENs. He eventually settled on a black one. We got the dealer to put on a brown leather Flyscooters seat on this model. Paid $1395 out-the-door, inclusive of all fees and taxes. I put the first 2 miles on the scooter during the test drive, and I must say, it is quieter, shifts smoother, and is overall "tighter" feeling than my il bello when I took it home. Also, under the seat, every line, cable, and tube was snapped into place (again, something my il bello did not have). We got a no-name ZNEN because NOBODY had a black Lance Vintage or Flyscooters il bello. Apparently it would be weeks before new ones came in.

Here's a video of my brother on his new scooter. I'm still trying to convince him to become a dawg here, but I think he knows he can just call his little brother and have me do the work.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOa-yJ3Z_WE

the Vintage has a chrome cvt cover and the Il Bello does not....both share the same stator, gates belt, tires, cables, carb...etc > Znen offers one 150cc engine for this body application.... seats are different...color choices are different...warranty is the same..... msrp is lower on the Lance.....

Thanks XS, I'll pass along that good piece of advice.

I started the PDI for him last night. He had two plastic T-joints splitting his vacuum tubes twice before it got to the fuel pump; how dumb. I upgraded all of these vacuum lines to Goodyear 3/16" and made the fuel pump have its own nipple on the intake manifold.

As far as differences under the hood, I haven't seen many yet. Like I said above, the engine looks more organized and tied down better than my il bello. Maybe the worker in China was in a good mood that day, I don't know. One difference I did notice was that all of his fuel lines were contained within springs in order to prevent kinking. Every last inch of fuel line is threaded through those spring things; i'm sure that is one of those 'best practices' type things that is not required. I haven't gotten much more beneath the surface. But I can report it has the same Keihin-style carb that mine had. I will have to look at the body fasteners, nothing jumped out at me though.

I'm going to do the 2-mile oil change today, I have a quart of 10w-40 Valvoline conventional here, I used that in my scooter since day one, does anybody have good cause to recommend a different type of oil?

After my performance upgrades on my scoot, I think i'm going to start using Mobil 1 now.

Here's a pic of my brother on his new scoot. I think he's going to name it "Sir Scoots-a-lot."

Congrats to your bro on his new scoot.My money say's after the PDI is done it will last as well as the others.

oh the same is true for the fly scooters as well. i was talking with my znen sales rep about them and she got a kick out of the price they are selling for. again though it all boils down to the warranty and support that you get after the sale.

I have two things to say here. The first is over at Motorcycle-USA's scooter forum one guy bought a no-name Znen for $999 in Utah and was surprised at the fit and finish compared to another Chinese scoot in the family.
Second, while it will start much discussion, I think this is just another case of the progress in quality the Chinese are making. In another couple of years it won't be so unusual to see cables and wires snapped into place along with better hoses.

there is no one importer. anyone can import from znen if you have enough $ ( a full container runs about $50k) and enough time to handle all of the logistics involved. the vinage is Znen model ZN150T-E.