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Post by TeamTEOR on Sept 13, 2008 15:22:06 GMT -5
Hey gang, a fellow rider elsewhere posted about tire valve stems that are on recall. It appears there are A LOT of them. Please check yours, be it your scooter, or other vehicles to make sure you are using one that is dry rotted and starting to crack. Consumer Reports article about this problem. blogs.consumerreports.org/safety/2008/06/valve-stem-reca.htmlMods, can you sticky this or make it an announcement so the whole forum gets notice on it. Thanks, Tom
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Post by cathouse on Sept 13, 2008 16:56:19 GMT -5
It not an easy thing to take your tire apart and check the brand of the stem, just bite the bullet and change all 4 of your tires , if scooter change them before they blow out.
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Post by jayhawk on Sept 13, 2008 17:29:24 GMT -5
This doesn't seem like any new stems are listed as compared to a month ago. If you can tell what your stems are (some list the name outside the tire area so you can check), it's silly to replace them in advance. If you think they might be the affected stems, by all means replace them.
Eric
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Post by TeamTEOR on Sept 13, 2008 19:10:42 GMT -5
None the less, it is showing that there is a problem. I have seen new scoots and ATVs on the floor with dry rotted tires. That is something most of us would look for, but not so much the tire stems.
It is better to make it part of your routine when you check tire pressures to make sure your valve stems are doing fine. Tom
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Post by earlwb on Sept 13, 2008 19:57:43 GMT -5
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Post by kcguy on Sept 19, 2008 0:22:08 GMT -5
Kinda scary to see, I hope all is well with mine, as I did the research I am pretty sure it is, but still to those who are affected, I feel so worried for those who might never find out there was a recall.
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Post by trigerman on Sept 24, 2008 23:49:41 GMT -5
i put black high temp silicone rubber sealer on my valve stem ,nicely applied to the rubber part of the valve stem,the silicone will act as insulator, coating, support and water repellant as well./ heat and moisture and vibration contribute to the rapid deterioration of the rubber part, if kept sealed it will last longer than usual. try it. it will give you years of worry free scooting.
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Post by nodestiny on Oct 7, 2008 13:40:27 GMT -5
I recently swapped mine out. Used a 8" C clamp, from Home Depot for around $12. Put a piece of 2x4 on the wheel and the screw-end on the tire nearest the wheel. took a bit, but they popped and clamped just enough to get to the valve stem. Then, pulled the valvestem to the side and cut the base of it with a razor. Pulled it all off, then got the new valve stem ready... a bit of WD-40 on it and the tire bead to make sure all goes smooth. Pushed the valve stem from the inside then used a pair of pliers and pivoted off the wheel at an angle to pull through (since I didn't have one of the real tools!). After that, simply pulled off the clamp, around 6psi it popped back into its bead, filled it up and drove off!
Easy to do, 15 minute job on a whole scooter with ease.
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Post by sl15018b on Oct 8, 2008 0:44:29 GMT -5
I just barely bought a 2008 Chinese scooter. Are they still using the faulty stems on 2008 models?
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Post by joet on Oct 8, 2008 8:27:46 GMT -5
Faulty stems on 2008 models?? YES!!
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Post by kb on Oct 21, 2008 12:29:48 GMT -5
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Post by kb on Oct 21, 2008 12:30:36 GMT -5
Pretty much sums it up, Yes they are trying to legally kill us.
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Post by kb on Oct 21, 2008 12:31:11 GMT -5
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Post by earlwb on Oct 22, 2008 5:25:23 GMT -5
Wow, this morning on the TV news, they had a quick news spot about dozens of people complaining about faulty valve stems on their new SUV's. So it is starting to make the TV news now.
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Post by TeamTEOR on Oct 22, 2008 9:04:42 GMT -5
Wish we had more stems like the ones on my 300m. They are metal stems where the base of the stem is captured and recessed in the rim supporting and protecting it. Those silly L-style brackets used at times are just not enough IMHO. Tom
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Post by cathouse on Oct 22, 2008 16:32:49 GMT -5
Ford just announced that several million of their cars has faulty valve stems from China installed on their F-150 trucks , mustang and a host of other models and i'm sure if Ford bought china valves everyone else did to.
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Post by TeamTEOR on Oct 22, 2008 17:42:30 GMT -5
Got a link on that?
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Post by cathouse on Oct 24, 2008 17:53:32 GMT -5
nope, I read about it in last sunday's paper , { The Paducah Sun, Paducah, Ky. } I bet you can google up auto recalls and get it.
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Post by TeamTEOR on Oct 24, 2008 23:38:14 GMT -5
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Post by earlwb on Oct 27, 2008 19:54:04 GMT -5
Ok if you have the angled rubber valve stems. The brass elbow actually separates from the rubber and comes out on you. Not any fun while doing 50 per on the highway, with traffic right behind you. The fact that the rubber looks good means nothing. So it boils down to how good you are at not crashing when you get a sudden air pressure loss at speed. With a Ford F150 right behind you. This valve stem looked perfectly good too.
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Post by TeamTEOR on Oct 30, 2008 9:23:38 GMT -5
man, that sucks.... I wanted to put in 90 degree stems in my tires as well. In fact I was hoping for a set that was low profile to. It is kinda difficult to check my air pressures right now on the front tire due to the dual disk brake setup, the rear tire is a little easier. Don't they make those french types that screw down into place, or are those only for tires with tubes? Tom
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Post by earlwb on Nov 3, 2008 6:45:29 GMT -5
You can get the metal bolt in angled valve stems. I have a couple different sets here at home myself. The bolt on valve stems, have a rubber gasket or grommet or seal, and you tighten down two nuts (double nutted) to seal the joint. So no problem on using them. Auto parts stores like Auto-Zone has the bolt on ones, as does Harley Davidson stores. HD's use a extra short valve stem version, which might be a good choice too. They sell them online too. If I remember right, the popular online place was Rick's Automotive Hardware Parts: automotive-hardware.com/tire-supplies-c-5.html?osCsid=6885225283de62f6dc7363e88745a85e
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Post by earlwb on Nov 3, 2008 6:51:12 GMT -5
If you study the valve stems. The soft rubber angled valve stem for example. The angled brass valve is bent over of center. As you ride along, the valve stem actually vibrates or oscillates back and forth and up and down rapidly. As the wheel moves forward into the wind the valve end is pushed back, and as the wheel rotates back with the wind, it rebounds back forward again. This constant flexing causes the brass stem to separate from the rubber if the bonding was improperly done by the manufacturer. I noticed Honda put on a support bracket to prevent the valve stems from oscillating or vibrating at speed. There is obviously a reason Honda engineers did that.
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Post by TeamTEOR on Nov 3, 2008 17:18:12 GMT -5
That looks like there is metal molded into the rim to support that bracket. Not sure if that would work for me since my rim does not have that molded in. The Harley dealer would most likely not give me the time of day, however the Honda dealer might have something else to suggest.
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1985 Honda Elite 150D aka CH150
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Post by notdave on Dec 22, 2008 16:26:07 GMT -5
gonna change mine out when get a new tire soon
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Post by wf1761 on Jan 1, 2009 9:42:20 GMT -5
As I was checking the tire pressure on the front tire, I could only get 15psi on it. I found the stem had a leak in it. I used a 8 inch C clamp on the tire to change it. That worked very nicely and didn't take very long to do it.
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Post by chaz12 on Sept 8, 2009 20:02:23 GMT -5
I replaced mine, after a blowout at 60 mph.. I bought chrome L shaped valve stems with bolts for snug fit. But I have never seen such el cheapo parts.
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Post by Ixty on Nov 21, 2009 22:13:24 GMT -5
Just replaced mine today. Not the easiest to do, but not hard either.
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Post by texastoast on Nov 22, 2009 1:33:27 GMT -5
so u used the c clamp to compress the tire so u could get t the stem?
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Post by Ixty on Nov 24, 2009 23:28:42 GMT -5
so u used the c clamp to compress the tire so u could get t the stem? Yes,bought my C-Clamp at Harbor Freight I used a piece of wood on the foot (screw handle) side to distribute the pressure on that side and had to lube inside the C-clamp foot so the foot would spin freely (the foot was chewing up the wood and drifting all over the place). That allows the other side (base) to pull the tire across so you can get at the stem. Hope this helps, send me a PM if you have any questions TT -Brent
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