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Post by biglauch on Jan 30, 2012 2:54:32 GMT -5
Hi i've got a Adly cougar 50 stock i want to get more power out of it without spending too much money
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Post by Pony66 on Jan 30, 2012 10:21:32 GMT -5
Put a slightly larger main jet in the carb and put lighter rollers in the variator. Thats about $20. You will get a LITTLE more power.
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Post by terrilee on Jan 30, 2012 10:31:03 GMT -5
more power from a 50 cc  ? 
trade it in or sell it and get a 150cc.
your gonna throw alot of $ into a 50cc
and get maybe 5, maybe maybe maybe 10
more mph. and then burn the engine out
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Post by Pony66 on Jan 30, 2012 10:49:16 GMT -5
If $20 is a lot of money and 10MPH is not fast enough, then consider a different scooter. However, tuning a 50cc will not burn up the engine. Actually it would probably last longer. Many scooters die from running to lean, which does burn an engine. If your looking for an inexpensive fun hobby, 50cc are a blast. There is a lot to learn and experience on the journey like fixing up a classic car. Sure anyone can go buy a new Corvette but there is nothing like cruising in old car you fixed up yourself. |
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Post by inuyasha on Jan 30, 2012 10:55:35 GMT -5
If $20 is a lot of money and 10MPH is not fast enough, then consider a different scooter. However, tuning a 50cc will not burn up the engine. Actually it would probably last longer. Many scooters die from running to lean, which does burn an engine. If your looking for an inexpensive fun hobby, 50cc are a blast. There is a lot to learn and experience on the journey like fixing up a classic car. Sure anyone can go buy a new Corvette but there is nothing like cruising in old car you fixed up yourself. Hi I agree whole heartily I have a bigger bike the Indian but really love the nimble handling of a small one 50 cc scoots are imho an absolute blast to modify and ride Bigger is not always better just different and all motorbikes regardless of their size have their time and place to shine ;D Take care and drive safely dear friend Yours Hank |
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Post by biglauch on Jan 30, 2012 22:14:25 GMT -5
Thanks guys
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Post by biglauch on Jan 31, 2012 1:28:10 GMT -5
Whats the best exhaust to put on it
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Post by dinogy6 on Jan 31, 2012 2:11:29 GMT -5
Leo Vince is good for an exhaust ,jet up your scoot and run the best 2 smoke oil out there ( I like Castrol) and do it all right and the gains will be fairly impressive. Look @ binning the stock air filter and going for a Uni ,K&N or similar. Keep the drivebelt fresh and run a good aftermarket variator like the Koso with 5.0 to 5.5gram weights as a starting point,also go for a full derestricted cdi unit. Just be very aware of your jetting as it is a 2 stroke. Go for it  |
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Post by biglauch on Jan 31, 2012 3:42:59 GMT -5
ok Thanks for the advice
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Post by biglauch on Jan 31, 2012 4:02:09 GMT -5
Do u no how much those pipes are
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Post by thood28 on Feb 2, 2012 14:43:34 GMT -5
leo vince runs like 225... technigas makes a great pipe also about the same price though check local shops for used ones youll about half the price if you can find one
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Post by biglauch on Feb 5, 2012 0:53:57 GMT -5
OK thanks mate
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Post by gregw on Feb 6, 2012 20:08:14 GMT -5
A BBK will give you the best bang for your buck, a pipe and rollars is a close second...
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Post by imnts2 on Feb 6, 2012 23:38:03 GMT -5
Hank. You are talking about an Indian Chief. Right? a real classic? What Year? something like 80 Cu in??
cheers
lefty2
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Post by terrilee on Feb 7, 2012 12:50:50 GMT -5
i sorta agree with the guys
BUT
i can read between the lines.
these people wanting MORE power, MORE speed
are gonna run them lil 50's WOT all the time
to get MORE SPEED.
is that good ?
my way of thinking is its better to get a 150, then cruise at 1/2 or even 3/4 throttle
than WOT on a 50cc
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Post by Pony66 on Feb 7, 2012 13:12:19 GMT -5
i sorta agree with the guys
BUT
i can read between the lines.
these people wanting MORE power, MORE speed
are gonna run them lil 50's WOT all the time
to get MORE SPEED.
is that good ?
my way of thinking is its better to get a 150, then cruise at 1/2 or even 3/4 throttle
than WOT on a 50cc Sorry but most of us choose 50cc to ride for many benefits. We are not agressive speed maniacs trapped on a slow vehicle. Many of us want speed and power Available. Actually since I hopped up my 50cc a bit, I rarely need to go WOT. I barely bump the throttle to cruise at 35-40mph. Lower RPM does not mean less engine wear. There is more friction on your cam, lifters and rings at low rpm. But our scooters dont idle that low. Engine wear occurs on a curve with damage occuring more at very low and very high RPMS. My rollers control the RPM, so its no different if 7500rpm pushes my scooter at 30mph or 40mph. |
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Post by scootercapecod on Feb 9, 2012 12:04:31 GMT -5
OK, OK...I guess I have to weigh in on this. ALL of you have valid points BUT the ultimate truth is that most people just want that extra grunt when going up hills etc.. not necessarily more speed per SE' but just what he said "More power"...which does in some sense equate to more speed but in the end if you want more power OR speed I agree with terrilee on this one. More power means you need more displacement and there is NO cheap or easy way around it other than a BBK but even that compromises the intended design of the smaller cylinder and piston as well as the crank shaft etc... You're truly better off with a 150 or more if you want to not only keep up with traffic, but get out of your own way at a light. I know some people will argue this to no end but everyone on here KNOWS that the more cc's under the seat, the happier you are! In all fairness though, in most states now anything over a 50cc is considered a motorcycle (which to me is totally silly!) and I personally can't justify buying a used scooter for %600 and being told I have to insure, register, inspect and get my class MC license just to ride around on something that can barely crack 50MPH on a good day! If we all had to go that route, wouldn't it make more sense to buy a Harley? My point is, people do want to keep them "legal" as far as 50's go and that makes total sense but again the REALITY is, if you want more...you gotta get more.
Scooter
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Post by gregw on Feb 10, 2012 22:00:50 GMT -5
The cool thing is, you register a moped as a moped, don't have to insure it, don't have to register it every year, don't have to wear a helmet if you don't want to, and you can still modify it to do 50-55 mph. If you take the cost of a 150cc, subtract the cost of a 50cc and add the cost of performance parts to make it go as fast (or nearly as fast) as a 150cc (BBK, pipe&rollars), you've still spent half as much money as the guy who bought the 150cc that has to insure and register his scoot every year (hundreds in savings each year just in insurance and registration costs!).
The idea that running WOT will hurt a motor is a myth. Over reving will hurt a motor. Insufficient cooling will hurt a motor. Improper jetting will too, but not simply running for an hour at WOT.
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Post by yoshidawg on Feb 11, 2012 0:12:00 GMT -5
Honestly, I get scared when I scoot over 35mph. But need that power to get up them hills.
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Post by skuttadawg on Feb 11, 2012 0:40:30 GMT -5
Check your state moped laws as here if it foes over 35 its a motorcycle . Technically here a moped is a pedal type and its like a bicycle with helper engine but since so many scooters are here they are letting people slide by . Insurance can also help you in case you wreck on your own like a tire blows out thats why I have medpay up to 10,000 for ER along with full coverage like theft . You should always wear your helmet . If I am going around the block or gas station I may opt out but always wear on highways Is that Adley a 2T ? If so look here www.mhr-usa.com/70cc-scooter-moped-cylinder-kits/47-6mm/airsal-atv-50-t-6-racing-47-6mm-cylinder-kit-.html |
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Post by larryhagman on Feb 22, 2012 21:36:01 GMT -5
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Post by skuttadawg on Mar 1, 2012 1:19:23 GMT -5
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Post by ltdhpp on Mar 22, 2012 10:57:14 GMT -5
Honestly, I get scared when I scoot over 35mph. But need that power to get up them hills. I felt the same way... my big frame 150 feels SO much more stable on the road, even at 55mph. Even with a BBK, no 50cc is going to keep up with a 150. sorry... I dont get passed anymore. I can ACELLERATE while doing 40-50mph. The frame is MUCH more beefy (and safer) on a 150. I bought mine used for about what you pay for a used 50cc, and the extra cost of tags/insurance every year is WELL WORTH being able to keep up with traffic, hold hills, and accelerate out of a dangerous situation if I need to. |
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Post by wile on Mar 22, 2012 11:16:07 GMT -5
This is some funny stuff..lol, I guess some folks don't mind looking like drocks on a small 50cc their butts sticking out from the sides of the seat and their knees up to their chins. If your a big guy you need a bigger scoot to carry your extra weight and look half way descent on it.
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Post by inuyasha on Mar 22, 2012 11:27:54 GMT -5
Hi I beg to differ on a couple of points My newest scoot, a 2012 Aprilia SR502 stroke, efi, liquid cooled, 11:5 to 1 compression 4.9 bhp stock, after a little tweaking and some well planned up grades will eat most stock 150s for breakfast, scoff if you will but theres many out there already doing just such a thing with this scoot www.speed-sports.com/motorscooters/scooter_models/aprilia_scooters/sr50_05.htmlAnd i dont think i look like a drock whatever that is while riding her Take care and drive safely Yours Hank |
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Post by wile on Mar 22, 2012 12:28:07 GMT -5
..LOL, could happen but not likely don't forget a little tweaking on a 150 you will starve, no breakfast, no lunch and no supper.
Where have you been that you do not know what a Drock looks like?
Be carefull out there
Wile
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Post by inuyasha on Mar 22, 2012 12:35:51 GMT -5
..LOL, could happen but not likely don't forget a little tweaking on a 150 you will starve, no breakfast, no lunch and no supper. Where have you been that you do not know what a Drock looks like? Be carefull out thereWile Hi Wile Thanks my friend I look like a watercourse ::)while riding her www.webster-dictionary.net/definition/DrockAnd heres what im shooting for with mine, cant hardly wait until shes broken in so i can start the upgrades Shes reading mph not kph in the video Take care and drive safely Yours Hank |
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Post by ltdhpp on Mar 22, 2012 17:58:59 GMT -5
I should rephrase my statement... I'm sure a well modified 50cc could keep up with a neglected stock 150, but otherwise... Is it even possible to get 10HP out of a 50cc block? And I hope the big frame 50's are made better than the small frame ones, because I certainly got the fear when I hit 40+ on mine!!!!!!!!! Attachments:
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Post by inuyasha on Mar 22, 2012 18:16:33 GMT -5
I should rephrase my statement... I'm sure a well modified 50cc could keep up with a neglected stock 150, but otherwise... Is it even possible to get 10HP out of a 50cc block? And I hope the big frame 50's are made better than the small frame ones, because I certainly got the fear when I hit 40+ on mine!!!!!!!!! Hi After a BBK and the other mild high performance parts needed to get the power to the road ( clutch cvt new main gearing etc) i also plan on milling the and porting and polishing the head I plan on 8 to 10 BHP easily for a mild performance build more then enough and comparable with any new 150 in great shape Check out these full blown high performance 2 t engines these put out HP in the 20 range, just to show what a quality 2t engine is capable off adrenalinpedstop.blogspot.com/2011/01/2011-polini-evolution-70cc94cc-2t.htmlSo there no reason i cant have a very quick off the line high top end speeds and an engine thats still extremely reliable 2 ts are the only way to go if your looking for the most performance from a small displacement scoot Take care and drive safely Yours Hank |
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Post by ltdhpp on Mar 22, 2012 18:46:34 GMT -5
Damn I didn't think that much HP out of a 50cc would be possible...!! Being lighter too... looks like I need some BBQ sauce for my feet.
Even if I fit on a 50cc well, I'd still want to reinforce the frame and upgrade wheel bearings and brakes... anything I could before going that fast on it!!
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