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Post by imagesinthewind on May 13, 2012 17:44:48 GMT -5
It's spring, we are getting scoots ready or already riding. Don't forget the seafoam!
Here in CO, our winters are of the type that we can scoot a few times in the winter. So, many don't go to the trouble of winterizing them. Which means the gasoline sits in the tank and the carb for long periods. This can cause problems starting and idling, so it's time for a glub of seafoam.
It also helps remove water if your last fill up was from a not-so-good station. I helped get a motorcycle running yesterday with a couple ounces of the miracle cure in a full tank of gas. Wouldn't start for a week and left the rider stranded 8 miles from home. A couple glubs of SF and some cranking to get the stuff in the carb and wonder of wonders it started!!
So, get some, put some in the scoot for each fill up to get the engine and carb cleaned.
You can even use it in your crankcase oil next time you do a change!
[end public service announcement]
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Post by qwertydude on May 13, 2012 18:41:56 GMT -5
One thing though when using it for an oil change is you ride it til it's completely warmed up then put a little Seafoam in the crankcase, then let it idle only for five minutes and drain and fill. You don't want to be running the engine with what amounts to mineral spirits in the oil. It thins the oil out like gasoline which is bad for the bearings.
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Post by timk225 on May 14, 2012 0:25:02 GMT -5
I've been putting Seafoam in my gas tank for about 5 fillups now. An ounce or 2 each time in a 3 gallon tank. Haven't noticed any difference, but it was running well before the Seafoam.
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Post by rockynv on May 14, 2012 3:57:27 GMT -5
Adding the Seafoam or Berrymans to an engine that is still running well should help keep it that way. Just a note of caution about Seafoam as it does contain alchohol to deal with water so it can amplify ethanols effects on the rubber parts in the fuel system. Check out link below for more information: www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_additive_safe_with_e10_list.html
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Post by HotStuff2 on May 14, 2012 5:20:59 GMT -5
I've been putting Seafoam in my gas tank for about 5 fillups now. An ounce or 2 each time in a 3 gallon tank. Haven't noticed any difference, but it was running well before the Seafoam. From the link below: AVOID unecessary use of Gas Additives & Fuel System Treatment Products that contain alcohol with E10 gas blends...You don't need to use Seafoam every time you fill up your gas tank. Every few hundred miles is more than sufficient. I add one ounce (which treats 1 gallon) every ~5 fill-ups. Adding the Seafoam or Berrymans to an engine that is still running well should help keep it that way. Just a note of caution about Seafoam as it does contain alchohol to deal with water so it can amplify ethanols effects on the rubber parts in the fuel system. Check out link below for more information: www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_additive_safe_with_e10_list.html
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Post by larrball on May 14, 2012 8:03:38 GMT -5
I add about a cap full every outher fill up on my scooter. Now even thou it does have a little alcohol in seafoam it will still help with the rubber in a carburetor due to the Pale Oil in it.
1 - 16oz can has lasted me about 1-1/2 years and that's with using it in the lawn mower as well.
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Post by qwertydude on May 15, 2012 0:36:13 GMT -5
Had a friend with a head that was badly coked up recently valves were sticking and having problems revving. You could see the build up when removing the muffler and a chunky black coating when you removed the spark plug. I didn't want to tear it apart. So I treated it like I did mine, simply poured a whole bottle in a tank that was only 1/4 full. Ran the scooter til it was nearly empty. Then filled up and changed the oil. It was really smokey but upon removing the spark plug and exhaust, it was like a brand new engine, shiny metal. No carbon whatsoever.
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Post by HotStuff2 on May 15, 2012 5:27:27 GMT -5
I add about a cap full every other fill up on my scooter. Now even thou it does have a little alcohol in seafoam it will still help with the rubber in a carburetor due to the Pale Oil in it. 1 - 16oz can has lasted me about 1-1/2 years and that's with using it in the lawn mower as well. "1 cap full" isn't enough to do anything. Basically you're just adding a drop, not enough to perform what it needs to do. Per the bottle itself: WHEN USED IN SMALL (2-CYCLE or 4-CYCLE) ENGINES:One pint treats 8 to 25 gal. or 6 to 12 gal. in all types of gas oil mix ( avg. 2 ounces per gal.) for cleaning and stabilizing." Two ounces = 30mL (or 2 tablespoons.) One cap full is about ~8mL. Get one of the little plastic cups that come with NyQuil (or the generic brands); they're labeled 1TBSP/15mL - 2TBSP - 30mL. Use the 2TBSP - 30mL mark, since that's 2 ounces.
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Post by larrball on May 15, 2012 8:22:01 GMT -5
Well when i fill up im only about 1/2 a tank more or less $1.00 worth of fuel @ $3.59 per Gl. Haven't had a need to open the carburetor in 3 years and i run all year around.
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Post by HotStuff2 on May 16, 2012 8:06:43 GMT -5
Yeah but that doesn't mean anything. The same could be said of someone who isn't using any Seafoam. Using the proper amount will let it do it's job. You probably need it, not as in "OMG ur carb is gonna explode!", but as in "it would be a good thing to do".
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Post by rockynv on May 16, 2012 11:49:01 GMT -5
BTW: It is 2 tablespoons to the ounce. One capfull would be about a tablespoon so a tablespoon for $1.00 worth of gas which is somewhere around 1/4 of a gallon is probably close for a maintenance dosage.
The new containers of Seafoam have a safety cap so you may need a medicine cup or a measured bottle to dose out the cleaner. I use a 4 oz bottle to measure mine out and fill it halfway for regular use and fully if I am treating something that has been problematic. My bike has a 2.5 gallon tank which I refill when it needs 2 gallons.
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Post by HotStuff2 on May 16, 2012 17:51:21 GMT -5
BTW: It is 2 tablespoons to the ounce. One capfull would be about a tablespoon so a tablespoon for $1.00 worth of gas which is somewhere around 1/4 of a gallon is probably close for a maintenance dosage. The new containers of Seafoam have a safety cap so you may need a medicine cup or a measured bottle to dose out the cleaner. I use a 4 oz bottle to measure mine out and fill it halfway for regular use and fully if I am treating something that has been problematic. My bike has a 2.5 gallon tank which I refill when it needs 2 gallons. What are you smoking? Have you READ THE BOTTLE? "One capful would be about a tablespoon"? Seriously? Rather than writing anything, or even taking pictures, I made a video just for you explaining just how wrong you are about the amounts and measurements. (Hey, it's raining, and I'm bored.) If you're going to use Seafoam, at least use the proper amount. 1 ounce (on average) treats one gallon. Says so right on the bottle. Using any less does...not as much, and possibly just wastes it, since it won't be able to do what it needs to do. Imagine putting less oil in than it takes to fill the dipstick. Same principle. Scooters have (on average) a 1 gallon tank, give or take (my 150cc is a 1.2 gallon tank.) So you need to use ONE OUNCE OF SEAFOAM to treat ONE TANKFUL. One capfull of Seafoam would treat...about 1/6 a gallon.
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Post by rockynv on May 16, 2012 22:21:50 GMT -5
BTW: It is 2 tablespoons to the ounce. One capfull would be about a tablespoon so a tablespoon for $1.00 worth of gas which is somewhere around 1/4 of a gallon is probably close for a maintenance dosage. The new containers of Seafoam have a safety cap so you may need a medicine cup or a measured bottle to dose out the cleaner. I use a 4 oz bottle to measure mine out and fill it halfway for regular use and fully if I am treating something that has been problematic. My bike has a 2.5 gallon tank which I refill when it needs 2 gallons. What are you smoking? Have you READ THE BOTTLE? "One capful would be about a tablespoon"? Seriously? Rather than writing anything, or even taking pictures, I made a video just for you explaining just how wrong you are about the amounts and measurements. (Hey, it's raining, and I'm bored.) If you're going to use Seafoam, at least use the proper amount. 1 ounce (on average) treats one gallon. Says so right on the bottle. Using any less does...not as much, and possibly just wastes it, since it won't be able to do what it needs to do. Imagine putting less oil in than it takes to fill the dipstick. Same principle. Scooters have (on average) a 1 gallon tank, give or take (my 150cc is a 1.2 gallon tank.) So you need to use ONE OUNCE OF SEAFOAM to treat ONE TANKFUL. One capfull of Seafoam would treat...about 1/6 a gallon. Hey kid your better at reading the fine print on the new style bottle than what I wrote about that bottle and how the smaller safety cap on the new style bottle would not work as a measure. I also wrote that 1 tablespoon would treat the $1.00 of gas that Larr was speaking of. Actually since Larr is only putting about 1/4 of a gallon of gas at a time in that 50cc bike of his then 1/2 tablespoon for an ongoing treatment would be just fine. Before the rain stops cap that bottle and get some fresh air. The Seafoam fumes may be getting to you. ;>
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Post by larrball on May 17, 2012 22:27:26 GMT -5
1 Cap full = 1/2 tablespoon using the cap off the seafoam bottle i have. I do pore it over the tank fill on my scooter before i jot on down to the filling station to fill up. I showed 0.24 L (close to a 1/4 gal) Not all filling stations are the same price and i frequent a few. For the most part 1/4 Gal x 4 (1/2 tablespoons per cap full) = 2 oz. So as preventive maintenance even if im a bit off it's ok. Remember it treats UP to (which in turn, simply in-ply's that you can use UP to) just not any more then what's on the label as your video clearly shows. Now mom's lawn and garden equipment i kinda use much more given it's been setting all winter long to help out, as long as dad doesn't know.. Never tell a NAVY vet, he needs help if he doesn't want it, even if he is not mechanically inclined. (do it anyway, and don't get caught.) Hey, no one is really in the wrong here.. a dollar in fuel simply is not what it use to be and as long as you can ride on a nice day and not be cleaning the carburetor jet's then it's more time on the bike (Smiles and miles) then off.
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Post by kmrinpa on May 29, 2012 23:21:50 GMT -5
good to know about Seafoam and E-10 fuel; I've been riding @ 1 year and I have been using Seafoam in maintenance dose in my stashed gas in gas cans...guess I'll just do Sta-Bil ethanol stabilizer in the gas cans and use seafoam or berrymans for tank/carb cleaning
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