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« Reply #150 on Feb 9, 2010, 10:23pm »
Aileronjack, I would say 1 since the engines do not produce that much power only about 8.5HP at over 7000rpms and the Mufflers are restricted anyway. They have a CAT built in them so that really restricts the exhaust.
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« Reply #151 on Feb 12, 2010, 5:46pm »
Hi Dawgs,
Took the tires off the Trike and had them balanced. They were REALLY BADDLY UNBALANCED. One was off 10.00 and the other was 7.70 off. They couldn't use the normal weights so they used the stickums on the inside of the rims. Here are pictures of them.
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« Reply #152 on Feb 12, 2010, 8:25pm »
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Did you take tires to a tire shop or just a regular garage? What did they charge, & did they charge extra for all those weights? Is that 7 & 10 oz?

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« Reply #153 on Feb 12, 2010, 8:46pm »
Dwild62, Well your going to HOLLER AT ME:) Its called JUST TIRES they are down the street from me and I always have bought my car tires from them so they know me and are really nice. THEY DIDN'T CHARGE ME A DIME FOR ANYTHING:) They said its on us:)

I didn't see what each individual piece of weights were but the machine registered 7.50 and 10.00, the guy said WOW!! almost a 1lb off:)

I did take it for a ride even though it is very cold out there. I was doing 50mph at 6200-6300 and cranked it up to 60 then turned around put it back in the garage and POLISHED IT:)
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« Reply #154 on Feb 12, 2010, 9:36pm »
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I'll just bring tires to you then!! ;D I bet it rides better now, A?? My wife said I could use the car tomorrow, so maybe I'll see if I can get mine done.. I know mine is going to be pretty bad, because when I wound it up on the bench it tried to walk right off the bench, so I had to strap the rear down so it wouldn't fall off the bench..

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« Reply #155 on Feb 12, 2010, 9:59pm »
Dwild62, Yes, I like the tires better than the others. These tires are a little softer I think and cushions more going over ruts and stuff. The other tires are harder I think or maybe because they are smaller and less rubber between threads and rim.

Yea sounds like they are pretty unbalanced if they wanted to go walking off on you. Mine were several guys came over they couldn't believe how far off they were:)


WHAT!!!!! You have to ask your wife to use the CAR?????? Tell her if she wants something for Valentines Day you need the car, otherwise HOW can you get her something:)
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« Reply #156 on Feb 14, 2010, 8:59am »
Wow! Alley! 7.5-10. That's huge!
60+ I would bet...in Chicago....temps around 30.... windchill at 60 is around 10 degrees. Your a brave man.
It's good to hear that the new tires are softer and handle the bumps a little better. But, what makes them so out of balance. ? Besides the obvious answer of more rubber in a specific area.
With that being so far off balance, would dyna-beads be out of the question?
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« Reply #157 on Feb 14, 2010, 12:00pm »
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Ya, I don't think dyna beads would've worked on these tires.. Mine tire were off pretty bad to, but not as bad.. My thought is they're seconds or maybe just because they're Chinese.. If it's because they're Chinese, they may not get much better then that in quality..

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« Reply #158 on Feb 14, 2010, 1:29pm »
Yep, Dwild62 is probably right about the tires, seconds or cheaply made.
I may go and order the other 205/65-10 KENDA's that are rated at 65mph that appear to be of better quality. I really don't plan to go that fast, but just be able to cruise at 55 with a little left over up to my Sons house which is 25miles away further west of me. Getting there are stretchs of 4 lane roads 50-55 miles per hour so able to cruise at 55 with the engine not screaming all the way is really what i was looking for.

Also I think the BEADS only work while ROLLING so if you have a shimmy it will not go away until the beads start flying around in there. So the shimmy would never go away unitl rolling.
I might be wrong, but others have used them, I don't see how else the beads would work.
Imagine dumping in a lb of beads in a tire(HEHE).

As far as BRAVEING the COLD your right it was freezing but I HAD TO GIVE THEM A TRY:) Heck I cranked on it just to see and turned down a side street and came back put it back in the garage and POLISHED IT:)
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« Reply #159 on Feb 18, 2010, 9:01pm »
Hi Dawgs, Aileronjack found this short Video of ICE BEAR 2010 EXPO. I love the new rear ends on the Trikes with lights on each fender. The ones on the raised displays look like the Big ones 250cc/300cc just by looking at the size of the Rear Tires.
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« Reply #160 on Feb 19, 2010, 8:29pm »
Hi Dawgs,
Well today I ordered a Tall Windshield for my Trike. Its 29" tall by 19" wide. The one it came with is 22" high by 15" wide. I will post before and after when it comes in.
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« Reply #161 on Feb 20, 2010, 10:54am »
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« Reply #162 on Feb 20, 2010, 4:50pm »
Hi Dawgs,
Well Dwild62 and I don't like the tires that we got we think they are Seconds. So we are still looking for better taller quality tires. We have found some and we have been asking for specifics on the the tires the dealers are selling. We now think the Kenda Load Star tire might be a better choice. But we are waiting on answeres for the specific questions we have.
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« Reply #163 on Feb 20, 2010, 8:20pm »
Hey Al:
Hate to hear about the tires. What is it that don't set well wiht you and Dwild?
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« Reply #164 on Feb 20, 2010, 8:27pm »
Aileronjack, Well when I took them to have get them balanced one was off by 10.00 oz!! and the other by 7.50 oz!! that tells me they are not quality tires. They work but I have all those stickem weights inside the rims. I don't like that. Good thing they were cheap(HEHE) maybe thats why WE GOT WHAT WE PAYED FOR.
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« Reply #165 on Mar 6, 2010, 7:41pm »
Hi Dawgs,
Today was a pretty nice day here in Chi, in the 40's. So decided to try out the Free Flow muffler I bought with a diffuser. Put on the header pipe and measured where to drill the hole in the bracket that comes with the muffler and mounted it. Started it up and it sounded good a little louder than the stock but not bad. I hit the throttle a couple of times and it rapped really nice.
So got on it and took a spin cranking it up, well that sucker is LOUD, you can hear me coming from a long ways off :o Passing cars that were parked you could hear some kind of sonic sounds bounceing off of the cars. So came back and took it off, its just to loud for around here. Here is a picture of the Free Flow muffler I paid $28.00 bucks for it.
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« Reply #166 on May 11, 2010, 6:20pm »
Hi Trikers,
Since it was raining today I decided to get my hands dirty and install a Manual Choke Conversion Kit.
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« Reply #167 on May 13, 2010, 8:39pm »
Ok Guys,
When I read about this Manual Choke Conversion Kit I asked the question about needing the Needle like the Enricher has. I was told that it didn't need it that the Plunger covers the hole.

Found what the problem is with this Choke Conversion Kit. Like I asked about not needing the Needle WELL it sure does need the needle. With the Kit when you use the Choke meaning you pull the Plunger Out to allow more gas it allows TOO MUCH GAS IN at once and Floods the engine and it dies.

With a Needle, the Needle is acting as a measure and Limiting the amount of gas coming in. The Needle and Plunger when retracted leaves part of the Needle still in the hole. I am going to switch the Plunger from the Kit and replace it with the Plunger and Needle from a Enricher. I already have the Plunger and Needle from my Orginal Enricher that came with the Trike apart and the Needle Soldered into to it. All I need to do now is Solder the Plunger to the Cable. Will take pictures when done and let you know how that works out.
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« Reply #168 on May 17, 2010, 9:08pm »
Ok Troops,
Fixed the Manual Choke Conversion, replaced the Plunger it came with and soldered a Plunger and Needle from an Enricher. Now it works like it should, I can choke it and It will run rich BUT will not die. Another benefit is if its running a little Lean at WOT I can choke it a little and allow more gas to come in.
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« Reply #169 on May 21, 2010, 6:35pm »
Are you tired of taking out your Enricher and or Disconnecting it to take your Carb out. Well how about doing this. Go to an Auto Parts Store and buy a Quick Disconnect for little over $2.00 bucks.
Each End has a Quick connect so cut it in half then Take your Enricher and cut the wires about 6 inches away from the Actual Enricher. Then Connect each Quick Connect to each side of the Enricher wire. Now you never have to disconnect the Enricher from the power source and or have to take out the Enricher when messing with the Carb, just unplug it

It was raining today AGAIN, so I decided to mess around and this mod just for the FUN of it. I don't really need the Enricher now since I replaced it with the Manual Choke Conversion But just in case and besides its COOL

The Quick Connect coming from the Power Source I wanted it protected so I put it inside a piece of Tubing and put it under the wire holder. The Actual Enricher Half I carry in a Zip Lock Bag with other essentials.
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« Reply #170 on Jun 8, 2010, 4:18pm »
Ok, I "THINK" I found my problem with LOSS OF RPMS that I have been chasing for the last 6 months. But you guys may be able to tell me if the following is my problem with the RPMS LOSS. I believe my TIMEING is WAY OFF and that would account for the RPM LOSS. Just found this out when I went to Adjust my Valves.

Here is what the Timeing looks like when the Piston is at TDC Along with the Cam. At this point the valves are loose and I adjusted them.

IF You agree that the Timeing if off, is there a Video and or instructions on how to Time it correctly. I do not know how to time this engine.

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« Reply #171 on Jun 8, 2010, 4:52pm »
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Looks right to me, mine times the same way.. If you move the cam sprocket 1 tooth the other direction the piston will be just starting it's way back down, which is wrong.. I've played w/ it both direction.. I'm thinking it's something to do w/ the fact that our engines are what they classify as GY7 engines...

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« Reply #172 on Jun 8, 2010, 5:35pm »
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But man that is really RETARDED!! No where near the "T" Mark? I will pull the Fan off and check to see if the Key is on the Fly Wheel and Shaft correctly. I will check with Ice Bear and try and find out what the timeing should be on these things.
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« Reply #173 on Jun 9, 2010, 3:01pm »
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Ok, I called Ice Bear about the Timeing on these Trikes and They Asked for the Pictures of the Flywheel Timeing and Cam when at TDC and they will send them to the Manufactuer and find out if the Timeing that is showing at TDC is correct or not and they will be getting back to me. So as soon as I get a respond I will up this Thread.
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