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Post by wildbill84 on Dec 13, 2007 22:30:09 GMT -5
Me and my Dad have been prepping and painting on my scoot for the last 2 days, and today I had the joy of putting all the panels back on. Below are some Pics, I originally ordered a blue and instead received a black. The color is a metallic flake cobalt blue. It's hard to see the flakes with a picture, but the paint changes from purple to blue depending on lighting. let us know what ya'll think. I removed the rear Rack for a "more sporty" look. ;D You can also see my new air scoop, and lowered windshield I chose to retain the Roketa emblems, some wouldn't, but I'm proud of my roketa!; and it goes great with the paint job IMO. . BEFORE v--v BEFORE v--v BEFORE . . "DURING" (the hard part) . . AFTER v--v AFTER v--v AFTER v--v AFTER . Voila!
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Post by ccsami4x4 on Dec 13, 2007 22:44:52 GMT -5
Looks good! So, was it worth the effort? I've thought about customizing my scoot, but I just can't decide if I want to mess with it...she works great as is and looks fine.
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Post by wildbill84 on Dec 14, 2007 1:05:15 GMT -5
I think it was worthwhile, I may not have painted my scoot if I'd recieved a correctly labeled crate from scooterdemand. Their isn't much to it just a lot of repitition... --Removing all panels, then removing headlights, and turn signals.- --getting some "medium roughness" steel wool and buffing your factory paintjob till the gloss is removed, no further. Doing this to every sq. inch of all panels can take almost a whole day! --Then you Spray on your first coat, let dry 15-20 then spray 2nd coat (I found it easier to spray panels in pairs, using downtime of one to do the other) --Then after paint dries using Tack Cloth gently wipe away any dust or fine debris --Apply your first "dry" coat of clear enamel let dry for 20-30min then apply 2nd "wet" coat of your clear enamel (a.k.a clearcoat) That's about it. I plan on waxing the paint job tomorrow to seal everything from the elements best i can. --Wildbill You can do something more creative like two tone or, something different, but I just wanted a blue scooter, I call the color a shade of -midnightblue- because it does look pretty good at night, although mdngt blue is really darker.
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Post by randy on Dec 14, 2007 7:05:26 GMT -5
You may want to wait awhile before you wax it. Most air dried paint jobs require about 30 days before waxing to allow for the solvents to fully evaporate. Waxing too soon can trap the solvents in and cause solvent popping. Read the can of paint or call the supplier where you bought and make sure. i would hate to see you screw up a nice paint job.
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Post by "Big Guy" on Dec 14, 2007 8:26:16 GMT -5
Man, that looks a lot better than the black!
How did you get the stickers off in one piece?
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Post by scottfla on Dec 14, 2007 14:21:52 GMT -5
Wow, very nice job!
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Post by RetroAJ on Dec 14, 2007 14:46:25 GMT -5
I agree with Randy, the paint has to be dry all the way thru before you wax it. I have painted a few cars and scooters myself. I used a spray gun though.
*A J*
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Post by claude on Dec 14, 2007 17:18:26 GMT -5
Hey Wildbill--I thought you were just going to change the pin-striping!! The finished job looks great! Congratulations! I have a Roketa Bali as well and although it is blue, I think your paint is a better shade! Enjoy...
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Post by scooterollie on Dec 14, 2007 19:28:33 GMT -5
Wildbill; The paint job looks great. My Bali was ordered as silver but came as matte black. Everyone else thinks it looks good but I hate it. Every other color I have seen in base coat/clear coat looks better, IMHO. Was going to repaint it as you did until I bought the Linhai 300 - great paint job on it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2007 20:12:57 GMT -5
nice job!! It looks awesome. Definitely better than the black.
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Post by wildbill84 on Dec 14, 2007 20:58:21 GMT -5
Thanks everyyone, I guess it was meant that I had to work late today, cause I didn't have time to wax it. Thanks for the heads-up! My "trick" with the stickers was using waterproof bandage tape cut really straight and applied over roketa stickers, the 2 on the nose peice were over the paint & the two on the rear upper body were under the original clearcoat. I just buffed around them prior to painting then taped 'em up, luckily tape came off clean. Heyclaude- Yeah, what happened was I got a little carried away taking off body panels to inspect wiring etc. and I figures I might as well get it over with because I just hated black on a scoot.
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Post by guyruss on Dec 16, 2007 5:23:16 GMT -5
Nice job, like it.
Russ
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Post by Glennby on Dec 16, 2007 9:18:44 GMT -5
SWEEEEET!two thumbs up!BTW is that a 150 or 250??
Glennby
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Post by YellowScooter on Dec 16, 2007 11:48:37 GMT -5
You do nice bodywork! Is it as tricky as I heard using the colorshifting paint? I often thought of getting mine done with the chromeillusion mystic paint thats on the 96 mustang cobra. That along with a chrome dip on the rims. IMO would be the shiznit.
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Post by tyrssen on Dec 16, 2007 17:30:04 GMT -5
Absolutely yummy -- well done! Though I've been a painter for years, the most I intend to do with my nice red Xingyue is get some of the really cool striping decal from Winners Cycle Graphics (found a thread here on the forum that mentioned 'em, and fell in love.) Again, jolly good show!
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Post by wildbill84 on Dec 16, 2007 20:19:07 GMT -5
The paint wasn't labeled as color changing, just as Metallic Cobalt Blue. The Purple color at different angles is just a perk i guess. its about $5.00 a can @ Lowes, only took 2 cans. in retrospect i'd have got a 3rd and used 1/2 of it It would've been a lot harder to do the job in 2 days w/out my dad helping. I'm really happy with the paintjob, being that it was done with spraypaint. Its almost like getting a NEW scoot for christmas, except mine runs better than a new one cause its broke-in. glennby- It's a 150
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Post by bunnii on Dec 17, 2007 18:10:21 GMT -5
This makes me feel a little better about possibly having to get a scooter in a color i'm not fond of. The only one left of the kind my first scooter was is orange and I don't like orange. I'd like to paint it pink eventually...that's rather reassuring . Thanks for the post. Your scoot looks awesome.
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Post by jim150 on Dec 20, 2007 22:46:35 GMT -5
I am painting a Suzuki GS425 with the same paint. After 4 or so coats of clear the stuff looks great. One thing i would reccomend to anyone using the is paint is not to color sand ie, sand after the color coat is on. Wait for sanding any imperfections out until at least two coats of clear are on it.
Looks great.
Jim
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Post by bunnii on Dec 21, 2007 3:34:19 GMT -5
I definitely just bought a brand new red scoot that needs to be pink (or really any other color that doesn't class with my bubble-gum colored helmet) and when I get the balls to do it, this thread will be my life-line. I think it should eventually get shuffled into the section of super-useful tips.
Anyone know how much it'd cost to have it done by a "professional" I'm just curious on that one as it doesn't seem to be a huge undertaking and I wonder how much people charge.
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Post by wildbill84 on Dec 21, 2007 3:45:06 GMT -5
I'm really not sure how much that'd be, probably waaay too much. at least 200something dollars or maybe even more.
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Post by scooterollie on Dec 21, 2007 9:36:58 GMT -5
I had an estimate from a body shop on the Bali/TTouring body style. Cost was $300+, if i removed all the panels and brought them to the shop.
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Post by bunnii on Dec 21, 2007 18:14:53 GMT -5
That's a ridiculous price for something i could do myself...i'm willing to pay a little bit for convenience...but that's way more than a little bit. Screw that, I'll be referencing this thread and doing it myself this summer!
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Post by jim150 on Feb 16, 2008 18:31:25 GMT -5
Here is a picture of my 1979 Suzuki GS 425 done in the same paint. I love the color after it has been clear coated!
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Post by wildbill84 on Feb 16, 2008 18:56:22 GMT -5
Your MotorCycle looks awesome! Sure doesn't look like a '79 looks like new, nice job. What kind of Clearcoat did you use?
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Post by zbuffered on Feb 16, 2008 21:06:01 GMT -5
How did you do the pinstripes? I've seen rolls of pinstripes you just unroll onto a bike, but I'm worried about getting the curves just right. I assume you put them on before clearcoating? K+ -Zb
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Post by wildbill84 on Feb 16, 2008 23:20:11 GMT -5
I just bought the kind you're talking about. The roll from Autozone. These pinstripes are very forgiving in the curves, you can just pull it back up and use the tip of your thumb to get the curve/contour just right. It ain't too hard. I suggest you search some online sticker shops for pinstripes, you can get anything from reflective stripes to barbed wire to skulls. The plain colors are alright but you can really achieve a customized look by ordering something special off the internet. good luck. ohyeah, your Q.- The red pinstripes in the black scoot pic were applied over the factory paintjob. They held up very well after quite a few washings, they hold their color well too.
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Post by tyrssen on Feb 17, 2008 0:12:04 GMT -5
I say, gents -- nice job on both bikes! From a fellow painter. (And yes, it would indeed cost at least $200.00 for a "professional" job. A lot of that has to do with the price of paint, which can run around two hundred for a nice metallic color. For those looking for true quality paint and cheap prices, type in "paint for cars." The company ("Trinity") offers limited color choices, but at around $65.00 for a gallon, who cares? You can probably find what ya want.
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Post by memturbo on Feb 17, 2008 10:47:48 GMT -5
I actually like the black better, but I don't care for the red stripes .
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Post by jim150 on Feb 17, 2008 15:57:48 GMT -5
For the 79 Suzuki I primered everything with Ace Hardware brand sandable primer, about $2.99 per can. Shot 2-3 coats, let it dry and then sanded with 600 grit wet dry paper to smooth it out. Washed everything down with soap and water and let it dry.
Shot two coats of the Rustoleum on and let it dry for about an hour then shot a coat of Ace Harware clear on and then wet sanded that with 600 grit. I applied the pinstriping very carefully with 2 large halogen spotlights nearby for a mild heat source. This makes the pinstripe tape more pliable when you need to go around a curve. Take your time. After everything is where you want it, burnish the tape down hard with your thumb and then pull the outer cover tape off the stripes.
I then wiped the tank off with a tack cloth and put two more coats of clear on sanding after each. One last coat of clear as the final. Let it dry for a couple of days then i used Meguiers paint cleaner on everything. This seems to smooth out any tiny imperfections and takes off any oversray particles. (use microfiber cloths)
Finaly I waxed immediatly with carnuba wax. About 4-5 coats buffing with a microfiber cloth after each. Some people reccommend no wax after painting for 30 days but I have found no ill effects using the carnuba wax that has no type of grit whatsoever in it. I waxed my gas tank even more just to make sure a little gas spill wouldn't eat the paint off. I have had a few drops hit it and no problems so far but I'm extremely careful.
The painting is time consuming but rewarding. Take your time and don't rush. This type of painting won't happen in a weekend.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by sicily150 on Feb 22, 2008 1:01:47 GMT -5
Good jobs on both the Roketa and the Suzuki, both look great.
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