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« Reply #30 on Oct 5, 2007, 6:57pm » | |
ok. scooter is all put together, but we couldn't get it started. we checked the fuel line and it doesn't seem to be pumping enough fuel to start it up. any ideas?
pictures on monday.
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« Reply #31 on Oct 5, 2007, 7:08pm » | |
You may need a shot of gas directly in the air intake, or some starting fluid. Just a tiny bit, and be careful. Have you tried the kick starter? Also, make sure the kill switch is set right.
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« Reply #32 on Oct 5, 2007, 7:10pm » | |
Sounds good. Glad to know there are some other dogs handy.
Daddyeby I'm old enough to still think you are in Kimberling City. Used to keep my boat at hwy 13 dock. Maybe we could go for a ride around the lake sometime.
Airnerd if I end up having trouble with pictures I may try to take you up on that. Wouldn't mind trying to head out that way myself sometime if you would be interested in a little Airfoilz style aerobatics.
Chad, the guy who is going to try and put the scooter together arrived a few minutes ago. I am going to go out for the evening with my girlfriend so I won't be hovering over him. If he can't find a tool or something he needs he can call me. Other than that I am signed in on the forum and have told him to ask any questions he needs to here. He has a pretty strenuous day job so he will probably only work on it for an hour or two this evening and then finish it this weekend. It will be fun for me to see what is up whenever I get back.
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« Reply #33 on Oct 5, 2007, 11:23pm » | |
Well Branson west was lakeveiw. I live real close to the jct of 76 and 13. consdered myself before that part of reeds spring. I will have to get a scoot running before taking a ride. I up to now stayed with a 50cc but think next year I will buy a larger scoot.
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« Reply #34 on Oct 6, 2007, 10:07am » | |
Over in the RC Groups forum I started a thread on trasnporting my planes on a moped...LOL
BTW I would have to fly yours or build my Mobius...interested in a mobius???
Hows the progress...was it a 150???
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« Reply #36 on Oct 7, 2007, 9:13am » | |
Well my official assembler Chad, could not make it over here yesterday so I took a few minutes to install an alarm up at the front of the scooter.
I'm still struggling with pictures. Managed to get the pictures into the pc and linked to where I can find them. Tried to start an account on Photobucket and they wanted my cellphone number to activate the account. I don't give out my cellphone number to random businesses. So now I am trying to find another image hosting service that I can use.
If anyone has any suggestions for a reliable image host I'd be glad to hear about them. 
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« Reply #37 on Oct 7, 2007, 11:26am » | |
Just enter a phone number out of the phone book at random.
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« Reply #38 on Oct 7, 2007, 11:44am » | |
They send a message to your phone that allows you to log on. 
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« Reply #39 on Oct 7, 2007, 12:56pm » | |
Well I've struck out with something called Picasa but I think I'm making progress with Yahoo photos. I've got them uploaded and can see http type stuff come up in the address box when I look at pictures so I may be down to just figuring out how to get them into the forum now.
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« Reply #40 on Oct 7, 2007, 1:08pm » | |
hillbilly,
I set-up an account with photobucket on 30 September 07... simply left the "cell phone" space blank. Up-graded later the same day to "Pro" without a cell phone number.
I continually bumped against the 10-mb size limit on my home page. Pro allows 5-gb storage, (pictures and 10-minute videos) and unlimited bandwidth.
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« Reply #42 on Oct 7, 2007, 2:30pm » | |
Hilbilly;
The "MCO" that came under the seat most likely will not be accepted by your state DMV. The seller usually sends the official copy in the mail after the scoot has been delivered. The official MCO has all the dealer info. on it, including the dealer number. One of mine had the importer listed as the dealer, not the seller.
My Bali 250 was assembled by the same company. Mechanicals are good but body panel quality and fit and finish are only fair. Did not have any loose bolts/nuts but did have improperly applied or missing clamps. Added probably 3 doz. zip ties to better secure wiring.
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« Reply #44 on Oct 7, 2007, 6:46pm » | |
Chad has been here working on the scooter for a little while this afternoon. He had it ready to start with the oil in the engine and gearbox changed. I primed it by suction on the hose to the petcock for about 30 seconds until the fuel settled in the filter. It fired up after about 2 seconds chugged a couple seconds and died. Repeated that another time and then set the idle up enough to keep it running. I checked the idle mixture and it was set at 3 turns out. Backing it out to 4.5 turns had it idling nicely.
We are getting intermittent showers around here but I'm going to try to take it for a hard break-in ride as soon as we get the bodywork on.
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« Reply #45 on Oct 7, 2007, 7:22pm » | |
How do you check the idle mixture? and what exactly is that?
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« Reply #46 on Oct 7, 2007, 7:45pm » | |
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why did you have to attach the alarm? Is it after market or just didn't come attached?
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« Reply #47 on Oct 7, 2007, 8:35pm » | |
Mortar, the scoot did not come with any alarm. That is an aftermarket one from autozone.
Thatonekidera, the idle mixture is to control fuel/air ratio at idle and transitioning to low throttle settings. On most stock gy6 carbs it is a slotted screw low down on the left side of the carburetor near where the carburetor is attached to the intake manifold. You turn the screw clockwise to lean the mixture and counter-clockwise to richen it. Most of the time the scooters are set to run lean by the factory to help satisfy emissions regs.
With the engine off just turn the screw in clockwise while counting how many times you turn it until it seats to find out what it is set at currently. Don't crank it down tight, just until you feel it bottom out. Then you can turn it back out counter-clockwise to a different setting. In my case I went 1.5 turns richer to 4.5 out from the factory setting of 3. At that point you can start back up and make further adjustment to the idle mixture with the engine running. I just like to have a baseline reference of what the factory setting was to compare it to. I ended up at 4.5 turns out even after a little fine tuning with the engine running.
The break-in ride went well for me. Managed to get a break between showers and the roads were mostly dry. The scoot seems to be running well. I put on 23 miles of fairly hard use. Did not try any real top end but reached an indicated 50 or so several times.
Just out of curiosity I checked the compression before any break-in and got about 138#. I'll check it again after a few hundred miles to see what it reads when broken in fully.
Two problems so far. Haven't checked either one of them out yet.
The headlight has high and low beam reversed so they must have it connected wrong. The other is since I only had 87 octane at the house I put in just enough gas to get to a station and the fuel gauge was barely showing any gas so I thought it was working. When I filled it up the gauge stayed the same though. Not a big deal but I'll check out the sending unit soon.
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« Reply #50 on Oct 8, 2007, 12:00am » | |
Quote:Regarding assembling the scooter:
Chad impressed me with his ability to do a pretty thorough job for someone who hasn't worked on many things. He said the assembly instructions that came with the scooter were ridiculous. The only thing he said the instructions did for him was to give him an idea of major component sequence by looking at the pictures.
Chad's comments:
Front fender went on easily.
Had trouble installing front wheel Friday night until my son happened to stop by and tell him to take off the front brake caliper. That probably saved him a trip to the Dawgs here.
Handlebar went on easily.
I had told him the battery would probably need to be filled/charged. He said it was in the battery compartment and showed 12.82v so he just connected it.
He said it took a little while to figure out how to remove the seat, storage bin, and surrounding bodywork.
He recognized the starter solenoid but not the cdi, but wrapped electrical tape around them anyway to protect them. Fine by me.
Replacing fuel line and fuel filter was easy.
He didn't replace any vacuum lines or tees because it was intimidating as a whole system to him.
He also would have had to get help here regarding the idling problem but I was here, it was getting late in the day, and I wanted to try it out so I went ahead and adjusted the carb. 
My thanks to Chad for a job well done. I feel bad that he doesn't have his endorsement. I let him ride it around the block but could not turn him loose with it.
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You realize of course that if this scooter works out it will be breaking all scooter laws in affect on this board.. By that i mean that all ebay merchants are crooks and SUNL is a worthless brand.... Oh and that price determines quality... just between you and me, laws were meant to be broken  hope it all works out
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« Reply #51 on Oct 8, 2007, 11:28am » | |
Just got done registering the scooter. Saved a couple of bucks by reminding them the cost was $499 and the rest of the price was shipping.
Last night I fixed the high/low headlight switching being backwards by just swapping two male contacts in an inline connector leading to the headlight. Then I went out and rode it pretty hard for about 40 miles. Saw about an indicated 53 top speed. I had a GPS on in my backpack and it showed a max speed of 54.4 after the ride so it doesn't seem to be optimistic like on my Fiji. It also seemed to hold speed on hills better than my Fiji and feels a little lighter. Changed the oil in engine and gearbox after I got back.
I'm 6'1 or so and my Fiji fits me much better than this scoot. Knee room is tight for me on this thing. I weigh about 180 and if I was a heavy person it would seem too small. I plan to try and rack up a few miles on it over the next week or two.
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« Reply #53 on Oct 8, 2007, 3:58pm » | |
I thought I would add a note about the alarm I installed.
It is an Audiovox alarm I got a Autozone. It looks for vibration and current changes. Came with two remotes and seems to work pretty well. Has eight sensitivity settings and I currently have it set to the third most sensitive since on the most sensitive there were false alarms from wind as a storm blew in. It is nice and loud.
It came with a blue flashing led indicator. I mounted it by the key.
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« Reply #54 on Oct 8, 2007, 4:30pm » | |
Quote:| You may need a shot of gas directly in the air intake, or some starting fluid. Just a tiny bit, and be careful. Have you tried the kick starter? Also, make sure the kill switch is set right. |
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where can i find the air intake?
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« Reply #55 on Oct 8, 2007, 4:44pm » | |
.. and yes, kick start isn't working either.
when i try the electric start it sounds like it wants to start, but doesn't.
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« Reply #56 on Oct 8, 2007, 4:58pm » | |
put another ground on the starter
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« Reply #57 on Oct 8, 2007, 5:39pm » | |
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Quote:| You may need a shot of gas directly in the air intake, or some starting fluid. Just a tiny bit, and be careful. Have you tried the kick starter? Also, make sure the kill switch is set right. |
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It is the black plastic box above your cvt on the left side of the rear wheel. I can see it in your photos. That box has a large plastic tube that leads directly to the carburetor.
I just read all your posts though and it sounds like maybe we should start at the beginning.
The first thing we need to know is whether the engine is being spun over by the electric and kick starters and just not starting or if it is not even turning over.
If it is cranking over the first thing you should do is prime the carburetor. What that means is getting the carburetor fuel bowl full of fuel by getting gas to run through the gas line with the engine off. There is a vacuum controlled fuel switch called the fuel petcock that keeps gas from flowing when the engine is not running. You can eventually get enough gas into the carb by cranking it but it is better to prime it and let the engine try to start with a carb full of gas.
You will need to look at the carburetor on the engine and find the fuel line that runs to it. If you follow it toward the rear of the scooter you will see a small fuel filter on that line. You will also see a vacuum line running along near it towards the rear that turns on the gas when vacuum is applied. Remove that vacuum line from its fitting near the carburetor and suck on the end of the hose for about 30 seconds or so. You should see fuel fill up the little inline fuel filter while you are sucking on the tube. When the filter is full of gas and it is no longer showing any movement then replace the vacuum line on its fitting and the carburetor should be primed.
While you are there you can check for kinks in the fuel or vacuum lines.
Thatonekidera you aren't bothering me any by working on your scoot in this thread but your problem getting your new scoot running would probably be worth starting a thread. You could get more responses that way I think. If you do start a thread then try and be as complete as possible in your description of the situation.
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« Reply #58 on Oct 9, 2007, 12:21am » | |
This is the scooter assembled and the alarm flashing.
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« Reply #59 on Oct 9, 2007, 6:53pm » | |
My son used the new scooter to run errands around town today. He put on a little over 90 miles and it now has over 200. I hope to reach 400-500 miles on the scoot by this weekend while the weather is nice around here. No new problems yet.
I'll probably go ahead and take a look at the cvt belt tomorrow so I can see what kind it is and how it looks. Make sure its not made from vines or something.
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