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Post by taconinja99 on Apr 23, 2010 16:43:03 GMT -5
So im new to the scooter scene and have been researching a lot lately. I am not going to buy right now, but i saw this one and thought i would keep it in mind. the only thing i am worried about is making sure that i have everything put together correctly. How hard is it to make sure the wires and all are correct? is there a guide on this forum? im debating between buying something like this online or just going to a dealer and getting one. im 6ft and about 185lbs, my gf is about 140, will this put us around town? she wont be on it all the time, but when we run out to the store she'll wanna ride. we rode one in key west and i think it looked a lot like this but i cant remember. anyway, someone point me in the right direction. also what kind of upgrades could i do to make it take hills a little better without upgrading the cc's. id like to keep it legal if i could. anyway heres the scooter, thumbs up or down, anyone have one? greenearthscooters.com/detail.cfm?id=687 |
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Post by Bluefront on Apr 23, 2010 17:07:57 GMT -5
It's a typical 50cc Chinese 50 with a gy6 engine......similar to both the Chinese scoots I've had recently. You need to do all/most of the things recommended here (usually called a PDI). Some people take it a bit far (like removing the gas tank and cleaning it out).
Checking all the wiring connections would be first on my list, followed by replacing all the rubber hoses.
Frankly though.....the things aren't much good for riding double. You'll bottom out the rear shock easily, and the thing will be slower than hell, and hardly would pull the slightest hill.
Riding solo (230lbs) they're not too bad if you're using the right variator weights (6.5gr in my Eagle worked good). Just not very fast......
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Post by taconinja99 on Apr 23, 2010 17:13:32 GMT -5
speed isnt really my goal, i live in a little place called boone nc, im really in it for the mpg. there are a few hills around town, the city speed limit is only 35 anyhoo. so basically i guess the question is, what can i do for acceleration? would this scooter be reliable? i want to have something that as long as i do my part in taking care of it, it will take care of me. the only thing i dont like about the 150s is that you need a motorcycle liscens and insurance. im a student and really cant afford something like that. i wanna stick with something that i pay for once besides regular maintenance.
what are my options as far as upgrades, you mentioned variator weights? can you send me a link with more info?
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Post by taconinja99 on Apr 23, 2010 17:16:06 GMT -5
also i was looking at a jonway, is it the same as sunshine or whatever its called. not a sunL. they are in the same price range, i wanna go somewhere around 8-900. whats the best bang for my buck?
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Post by JR on Apr 23, 2010 17:22:11 GMT -5
Depending on where you live insurance around $175 a year and license no big deal! Add $30 and get this from same company! greenearthscooters.com/detail.cfm?id=685320lbs on 50cc won't last long! Most 50cc's don't even have foot pegs for two up! JRR |
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Post by taconinja99 on Apr 23, 2010 17:29:10 GMT -5
what kind of miliage can i get out of that?
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Post by taconinja99 on Apr 23, 2010 18:01:40 GMT -5
i called the scooter place i rented from in key west and they said they use 50cc tgb for doubles and they work great. i asked her how bad the wear and tear was and she said they worked well and were designed for 2. any thoughts on this? im not arguing for the 50s i just wanted to know alll my options
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Post by taconinja99 on Apr 23, 2010 18:09:12 GMT -5
would an 80cc kit help out? maybe i could upgrade it and not tell anyone?
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Post by Bluefront on Apr 23, 2010 18:31:47 GMT -5
Anybody who tells you that thing is good for riding double.....pure BS. If both people were small, <250lbs total, maybe for level roads, but horrible on any hills.
The big bore kits will help out the engine for power, and nobody has to know, but the suspension will barely handle 300lbs. I tried riding double one time.....what a joke.
The variator weight change (for the transmission) is a relative easy upgrade (improves pulling power on hills)......the weights cost about $10. Do a search of this forum and you'll find a bunch of info on this.
I get 100mpg on my Roketa, and I'm not kidding .(I weigh 230)
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Post by JR on Apr 23, 2010 21:02:29 GMT -5
Question? Why would you want to spend the money to try to get a 50cc upgraded with the thought of wanting to ride two up? Not only is the weight you mentioned a factor but IMO it's just not reall safe two up on a 50cc especially in the big city. Plus with all that weight even with a engine upgrade you're defeating the purpose with all that weight!
the 150cc scooters all average in the 70 to 85 MPG range and as always that depends on your riding and conditions. Again with the company you're looking at you can add $30 to the equation and you and your girl can just jump on and ride! You'll have enogh power and the scooter to handle the two up.
If it was just you alone and lower speed limits going to school then I would be the first to tell you yes a 50cc, they are fun to ride and fool with!! JRR
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Post by kz1000st on Apr 24, 2010 11:57:59 GMT -5
i called the scooter place i rented from in key west and they said they use 50cc tgb for doubles and they work great. i asked her how bad the wear and tear was and she said they worked well and were designed for 2. any thoughts on this? im not arguing for the 50s i just wanted to know alll my options First, I agree with JR, if you plan on riding two up, having three times the cc is very handy. I don't doubt that a TGB can handle two up in a perfectly flat place like Key West. First off TGBs are not cheap. You'll probably pay close to $1500 to $2000 for the scooters they rent. Look them up. As good as a 50cc Bashan from Green Earth is, it's not quite in that league. A 150cc TGB retails for $2500 or so. They're made in Taiwan and command a premium rate. |
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Post by scudder on Apr 24, 2010 12:13:48 GMT -5
i called the scooter place i rented from in key west and they said they use 50cc tgb for doubles and they work great. i asked her how bad the wear and tear was and she said they worked well and were designed for 2. any thoughts on this? im not arguing for the 50s i just wanted to know alll my options I have ridden the TGB 50cc it is a tank of a scooter and it is also a 2 stroke. There is a world of difference between the TGB and the one you are looking at. If you are just bumming around town and hauling the woman around every once in a while it will do it, just not very fast. |
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Post by jdikov on May 16, 2010 9:23:48 GMT -5
If you want a 50cc that can handle 2 people the Strada RX8 2 stroke is the way to go. However you will have to pay about $1500 for one. You can see one here.http://www.scootersus.com/stradaRX8.html Just remember in this business you get what you pay for. A $900 scooter will stand up to one for $1500.
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Post by Danny's Scooter Shop on May 16, 2010 11:24:10 GMT -5
You can throw away $800 and be totally frustrated when thing start to break or You can invest $1500 into an enjoyable experience. Your call. In the big picture is it worth saving $700
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Post by Cookees on May 16, 2010 19:58:24 GMT -5
If you do buy a scoot, I would strongly suggest that you look into the NST YYQT-20. www.nstmotor.com/moped-yy50qt-20.htmWe've sold about a half dozen of these from NST and it's a pretty well built scoot. The major plus is the 12" tires and "feel" of this scoot. It's a 50 that rides like a 150. Does about 40+mph. As a distributor, NST is pretty responsive to it's dealers. We've never had a problem getting parts. I get $1195 for them. My 2 cents! |
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Post by als01seville on May 16, 2010 20:37:47 GMT -5
Just noticed on the NST YYQT-20. www.nstmotor.com/moped-yy50qt-20.htmMax Load is 154lbs?? The man is already over the limit he weighs 185lbs. Sure it will hit 40+ with a 100lbs rider. Alleyoop |
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