BUNCH OF CRY BABIES

This should be in the non-scooter section and not in the 50cc garage

All I have to say is there's a nifty little button up at the top of the page that says SEARCH. Try pressing it and typing some keywords in MAYBE you'll find the answer to your problem instead of pissing and moaning in a new thread. Us "old timers" say to search because the answer is likely out there. You whining about us not giving you the answers you WANT immediately indicates a few things to me.

First, you have NO grasp of internet or forum etiquette.

Second, you're too FREAKING lazy to do even a minimal amount of work at a KEYBOARD so why should I believe you're going to bother listening to what I've told you and doing the larger amount of work on the scooter?

Third, I've rarely seen many smarta$$ comments about looking through threads for the answer but again after a while people tend to get tired of n00bs like you coming in, not bothering to read the READ ME FIRST posts, posting a question that's been in the forums 20-30 times already, and is just looking for a quick answer without doing any legwork.

Seriously? Get the FRACK off your high horse, learn what a search function is for, and quit YOUR whining about people not catering to what YOU want them to do. What's next? You gonna make a pissy post about how we aren't all hopping on our scooters to run to your house and fix your bike FOR you? REALLY? STFU GTFO and do some work yourself.

Great point!!!!!
Cheers

sometimes searching the other threads has still left me clueless.

When I got my scooter it didnt just have 1 problem or 1 part that needed to be replaced, it had several. Its like old cars Ive had with several problems but I had to deal with them or walk.

If I post on here is cause im getting desperate to get my stuff fixed and I cant afford a mechanic.
I believe in the old expression, give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach a man to fish you feed him for life.
There is a way however to talk to people and coming on here to rant about it is pointless. People will just get pissed off and not want to help you at all.

Amen fox.

People get tired of typing the same ol stuff BUT when are you going to see new or unusual problems with a scooter? Generally the problems are going to always be same ol same old imho

The sad part is it is a forum and not a encyclopedia... So some members are newer than others and don't know all the facts . So they guess.. That is why it is a forum. Calling people a bunch of cry babies, is not going to help, but may offend some. This will not help you, being new to the forum. We can't stop someone from voicing their opinion. That is a factual thing. If someone respond to your post saying, search for the answer because you did not give enough info, well write a new post giving more info, like mainepeace suggested doing.

The ironic thing is that I've seen variations of this same topic repeatedly on multiple forums over the years.

NOOB's are always going to ask a question that has been asked hundreds of times before, the old timers just get tired of it, that is always going to happen too.

Both sides just need to get over it.

You can do a search at the bottom of the page too, the google search here just searches this forum and does a better job than the search button at the top.

Your kick is low.
Your punch is hi.
You not no kung-fu master old and wise.

Wait, wait, wait... Let me get THIS ish straight...the OP that started with a post whining about how people aren't helping people that are too lazy to do a little searching and ask a few questions is demanding people replying to this thread post something USEFUL? Are you f'in SERIOUS? This whole THREAD has been nothing but useless other than to point out that the OP is complaining about something becuase he obviously has ZERO tact and even less ability to use a search function and ask questions that are even slightly intelligent to assist in the repairs of the bikes he has instead of asking the same questions that numerous n00bs have asked before him.

Here's a novel idea, TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE AND SAVE YOUR WHINING FOR YOUR FACEBOOK PAGE INSTEAD OF WASTING PEOPLES' TIME HERE WITH A CRY BABY POST.

Don't want people to be gruff with you? Don't want the "Try searching before posting" posts? Then do EXACTLY what the others here have said. DETAILED DESCRIPTIONS OF YOUR ISSUES

WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO TROUBLESHOOT SO FAR

YEAR MAKE MODEL AND ENGINE TYPE

SYMPTOMS PRESENT

and any other pertinent information including what you've found by searching here.

So if I had a no start issue such as I did with my Honda Helix a few months ago, I post letting them know it's a Honda Helix CN250 with 19k on the clock. I rebuilt the top end and replaced the cam chain. I didn't get it to turn over so I replaced the battery. Started getting the clicking then so I checked the replay and checked for continuity on the starting system wires.

Then I got pertinent responses indicating it may be a starter issue and how to bench test it.

I then posted again with results of a bench test and unfortunately in this case noone knew the issue. Though I did pull the side of the case off and somehow putting it back on it worked fine after BUT the point is, all information was given, steps I had gone through, and that I had searched the forums without much luck in finding information on this particular problem. From there people were able to guide me in what to do to test and figure out where the problem was.

Perhaps if you took this into consideration instead of whining like you've done in this thread so far, people wouldn't be NEARLY as gruff to you.

Quite frankly, I'm a BIG proponent of helping people when I check these boards if I have any GOOD advice and I also make sure when I answer to try to explain WHY things work instead of telling people what to do to fix something without an explanation. This ensures they will remember later how and why a problem happens not to mention giving a good knowledge base out there for them to learn from as well as others. BUT when I KNOW I've answered a similar question and someone expects the answer now just because they don't feel like searching, I'm not apt to respond at all.

Terrilee said it best. You youngins are all raised in an instant gratification society and when you don't get it you throw a frackin temper tantrum. Which is EXACTLY what this thread has been. A big temper tantrum because someone didn't get their way when they wanted it.

Moral of the story? Quit alienating yourself by whining about not getting your way right away, treat the old timers with respect and learn some patience. Otherwise you'll end up on my "I'll NEVER help this impatient little turd again" list. And bear in mind that I've likely forgotten more about a 139QMB than you'll ever know (Assuming that you have a 139QMB and not a 1PE40QMB or a CN250 or CH250 or any of the other engines out there) and I've owned more bike engines than you've even thought were produced.

I think google is a great search engine, when i want to find something specific i simply type Scootdawg and the problem, it brings up all the related threads that scootdawg has, so i don't have to sift Thur 120 pages of how to's...

Some times i think its a newbies way of having something to post is why they don't search for it, that being said, many here that do give advice just want to see some effort on the part of the poster, and I don't care how good some of the older more experienced posters are, they aren't mind readers.. A post saying my scooter won't run help... Just is not enough info...

Here's another, You tube has a video on just about every thing you can repair on a scooter, changing variator weights, overhauling engines, adjusting valves, changing tires, doing oil changes, the list is endless... You Tube is a great source of help to those willing to use google search engine... simply type in your problem and after type You Tube.. You would be surprised at all the help that's out there.