I thank I have a short?

If you don't have an alarm, remote starter, and the key is off, then you should not be drawing any current off the battery. I'd suspect that the voltage regulator is a fault and your fuse is also blown. Don't ever jump start from a running vehicle and when replacing your voltage regulator always check to make sure your headlight bulbs and your headlight substitution resistor are working or else you may burn out the voltage regulator. Is it possible you reversed the jumper cables during jumping for a second by mistake?

If you were using a second battery to jump start, it is a good idea to unhook it as soon as the scoot starts. If you leave it hooked up, then the scoot's charging system will try to charge both the scoot battery and the jumper battery which could overload the scoot's system (the smoke you saw from the battery compartment). If your main fuse is the glass type, this could be a place that could overheat because of the poor contact in the original fuse holder causing the melting. Most dawgs use this style holder and plug in ATO fuse:

www.delcity.net/store/12-Ga-Fuse-Holder/p_11176.a_1

To check for battery drain while the scooter is stopped, you should use an ammeter hooked in series with the negative lead of the battery with the key OFF. If you have an alarm system installed, it should read only a few milliamps. Ideally zero with no alarm system.

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I don't think this is possible. The reason is the charging coils can only put out so much current and the voltage regulator which functions by bleeding excess current would actually be under less load while under these conditions. If the battery used to jump the bike was in a running vehicle then that would be an entirely different story. In that case for instance a car could be generating say 14.5 volts and the zener diode in the bikes voltage regulator could be trying to dump all the excess current to get the voltage down to say 14 volts. The end result would be an overloaded and burnt out voltage regulator.

That's why I said if the jumping battery were good. It's possible the jumping battery was low, a 10v car battery will still crank up these scooters but will present quite a load to the charging system. But I wouldn't jump my scooter with a bad battery down to 10v.

Hello, Thanks for the info. The jumping battery was a solar battery in a truck puting out 14 to 16 volts, and the truck was not running.Yesterday evening as leaving work I complety hooked up the charged battery and the glass fuse in the battery compartment started glowing. I unhooked it and the fuse stoped glowing. I hooked the battery back up and started the scooter. The fuse got brighter as the scooter reved and finally blew. I then unhooked the neg battery cable and let it hang also left the fuse blown. I kick started the scooter and it ran and the turn signals would light up but not flash. I drove my 11 miles home. This morning left in same state of neg bat cable unhooked and fuse blown I started the scooter and went off to work. Not what I wanted to do but did not have time to work on it. I made it about 1 mile and was pulling up to a stop sign and as coasting to a stop sign the scooter died. It would not kick start and jumping the fuse and tuching the groung wire back up would not let it start off the battery as it did the evening befor. I replased the CDI with a spair one I had after getting the scooyer back home and it sounded like it would hit once in a while but still did not start but it might have been fludded from trying to start it befor and laying at about a 45deg angle on the way home. For now the scooter is at home so I can not check anything else untill about 5 this evening when I get off work. What do yall think could be the proublem now, please help for it is my main means of transpertation and LOVE riding it every day exp sence it is starting to get nice and my finger is finally healed enough to be able to ride again.

With all that shorting and heating going on I wouldn't be surprised if your stator went. If replacing the cdi doesn't work and you know the ignition coil is good then the only thing left is the stator. This is assuming kick starting only.

I agree, you have two separate problems and the last one doesn't seem to be electrical or spark related but a fuel problem. What amp fuse did you have in there that blew?
When the fuse blew was the jumper battery still connected?
Don't run the bike without the battery connected or else if the voltage regulator will blow if it hasn't done so already.

Here is where it's located behind the headlights on my VIP50. It's the black heatsink thing with the white connector right in the middle of the picture.



To check the operation of the regulator, measure the voltage across the battery terminals with the key turned off. Then start the scoot and measure the voltage again. It should be a minimum of .5 volts higher and rise even higher when you rev the engine.

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